HI Roy
already thought of that, but cannot see one for her........
Pauline
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roy Davies" <roycymru.davies(a)zen.co.uk>
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Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [CMN-L]
DoesanyonehaveaccesstoLlangenech/Llanellyparishrecordsgrom around 1800?
Hi Pauline
Thanks for the clarification.
Just had a thought. If Elizabeth was his second wife would your records
show
a death of a Jane William(s) between 1816 (approx birth of William) and
1822
(The marriage of a Henry William to an Elizabeth) in the Llanelly area?
Roy
----- Original Message -----
From: "UKGenealogy" <ukgenealogy(a)onvol.net>
To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Does
anyonehaveaccesstoLlangenech/Llanellyparishrecordsgrom around 1800?
> Hi Roy
>
> sorry
>
> NLW - National Library of Wales
>
> CRO - Carmarthen Record offices (sometimes County Record Office)
>
> B.T's.....Bishops Transcripts
>
> the B.T's for Carmarthenshire are in National Library of Wales, they are
> not
> housed in Carmarthen Record Offices......
>
> hope this helps
> Pauline
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roy Davies" <roycymru.davies(a)zen.co.uk>
> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Does
> anyonehaveaccesstoLlangenech/Llanellyparishrecords
> grom around 1800?
>
>
>> Many Thanks Pauline
>>
>> Excuse my ignorance but what are B.T.'s, NLW and CRO?!
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Roy
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "UKGenealogy" <ukgenealogy(a)onvol.net>
>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Does anyone
>> haveaccesstoLlangenech/Llanellyparishrecords grom around 1800?
>>
>>
>>> Hi Roy
>>>
>>> I have checked the IGI on fiche which are for the B.T's only, not the
>>> parish
>>> registers, but they are there, they were probably baptised on the same
>>> day
>>> and are not twins, unless you can view the bishops transcripts which
>>> may
>>> give an age for either of them - the B.T's are not in Carmarthen record
>>> office, but in NLW. You could send CRO an email to enquire if they are
>>> in
>>> the parish registers, but they are not in my index.....there are quite
>>> a
>>> few
>>> missing entries from Llanelli parish registers, but are in the
>>> B.T's......
>>>
>>> Looks like his wife was Jane....he may have remarried an Elizabeth, I
>>> will
>>> see if I can find anymore for you
>>>
>>> regards Pauline
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Roy Davies" <roycymru.davies(a)zen.co.uk>
>>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Does anyone have
>>> accesstoLlangenech/Llanellyparishrecords grom around 1800?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Pauline
>>>>
>>>> Although slightly early I have found a possible match for William on
>>>> IGI
>>>> a
>>>> William (and and Elizabeth) Williams, parents Henry Williams and Jane
>>>> both
>>>> christened 25 Dec 1813, Llanelly. (Possibly twins?) Do these tie up
>>>> with
>>>> any
>>>> of your records?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Roy
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Roy Davies" <roycymru.davies(a)zen.co.uk>
>>>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:47 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Does anyone have access
>>>> toLlangenech/Llanellyparishrecords grom around 1800?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Pauline
>>>>>
>>>>> Although not Elizabeth as Wife the
>>>>>
>>>>> 1807 16th January Llanelly parish church
>>>>> Margaret William dau Henry and Jane, Hengoed hamlet
>>>>>
>>>>> and marriage in Llanelly parish church
>>>>> 1806 29th August
>>>>> Henry William and Jane Rees
>>>>>
>>>>> Do tie in nicely as Margaret William(s) was born about 1807 from the
>>>>> census
>>>>> and if she was was their first child a marriage of Henry and wife in
>>>>> 1806
>>>>> would tie up. It's a shame there is no record of a William born
to
>>>>> Henry
>>>>> and
>>>>> Jane about 1816.
>>>>>
>>>>> Elizabeth might not be the wife. I am only assuming this from the
>>>>> 1841
>>>>> census (they are entered as Henery Wm (55) Elizabeth Wm(55) and
>>>>> William
>>>>> Wm
>>>>> (25) HO107, Piece 2468, Folio 93, Page 41). Henry and William tie up
>>>>> with
>>>>> each other as father and son in later censuses. By 1851 Henry was a
>>>>> widower.
>>>>> The only definite child from Henry and his wife from the 1841, 1851
>>>>> and
>>>>> 1861
>>>>> censuses is William, but as Henry was 55 in 1841 other children
>>>>> (including
>>>>> a
>>>>> Margaret) will have left home well before then
>>>>>
>>>>> (I have possibly found Henry's birth on IGI 23 Feb 1784
Llangennech.
>>>>> William
>>>>> from the censuses was born in Llanelly)
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any other obvious William Williams born about 1816 in
>>>>> Llanelly
>>>>> with father Henry in your records?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Roy
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "UKGenealogy" <ukgenealogy(a)onvol.net>
>>>>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:57 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Does anyone have access to
>>>>> Llangenech/Llanellyparishrecords grom around 1800?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Roy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have looked in Llanelly/i baptisms for you but not had much
luck,
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> were many non-conformists from that parish....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have this Margaret but mother not Elizabeth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1807 16th January Llanelly parish church
>>>>>> Margaret William dau Henry and Jane, Hengoed hamlet
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have these marriages both in Llanelly parish church
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1806 29th August
>>>>>> Henry William and Jane Rees
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1822 22nd Feb
>>>>>> Henry William and Elizabeth Rees
>>>>>>
>>>>>> no earlier one for Henry to Elizabeth anywhere in Llanelly
area....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pauline
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Roy Davies" <roycymru.davies(a)zen.co.uk>
>>>>>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 9:23 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [CMN-L] Does anyone have access to Llangenech/Llanelly
>>>>>> parishrecords grom around 1800?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am trying to prove Henry Williams (b.abt 1782-1788
(depending on
>>>>>>>which
>>>>>>>census you look at in Llangenech) wife Elizabeth b.abt 1786
had a
>>>>>>>daughter
>>>>>>>Margaret born (probably Llanelly) about 1807. Another definite
child
>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>William Williams b.abt 1816 Llanelly. However as this is
before the
>>>>>>>census
>>>>>>>begun it is going to be difficult. In 1841 Henry, Elizabeth
and
>>>>>>>William
>>>>>>>were living at (Culcaig or Claig), Hamlet of Westfa, Llanelly.
Does
>>>>>>>anyone
>>>>>>>have access to parish records, birth christening records from
around
>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>time who might be able help?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Henry's birthplace is listed as Llangenech
>>>>>>>
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