Hi Sian
Diolch. It's very kind of you to offer - I'm hoping that a relation will be
able to get there this summer - he has talked about it since we discovered
the whereabouts of burials. If nothing comes of it prior to the autumn I
will let you know. I appreciate your help
Regards
Angharad
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sian Jones" <sianwynn(a)gmail.com>
To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Newchurch, Carmarthen
Hi Angharad,
Well thats easy enoygh to get to so I can look for the graves whenI am
home
in the fall if you are still intereted! Let me know.
Cheers
Sian W. Jones
2008/5/24 Elwyn Schreuder <e.schreuder7(a)chello.nl>:
> Nice to see your name; my mother was also anghared
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: carmarthenshire-bounces(a)rootsweb.com
> [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] Namens Angharad Williams
> Verzonden: zaterdag 24 mei 2008 12:03
> Aan: carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com
> Onderwerp: Re: [CMN-L] Newchurch, Carmarthen
>
> Hi Pauline & list
> I've received news today that Aaron Roberts & all his family have been
> buried at Llangunnor church -there was also another son who died in 1864
> as
> a baby. So sad for his wife especially who survived the others. So thank
> you
>
> all for your assistance.
> Angharad
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "paulinejames" <paulinejames(a)paulinejames.co.uk>
> To: <ochr-y-mor43(a)tiscali.co.uk>; <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Newchurch, Carmarthen
>
>
> > HI Anne
> >
> > thanks for that, shame that we only have the index for Llandingat
> > (Llandovery) from 1813-1875.......only 4 Roberts listed there....
> >
> > Looked in Llangadock, Newchurch, Abergwilli, St Peters, and St Davids
> > Carmarthen.....to no avail!!
> >
> > Wonder if they were taken back to Caernarvon??
> >
> > Pauline
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <ochr-y-mor43(a)tiscali.co.uk>
> > To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
> > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:48 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Newchurch, Carmarthen
> >
> >
> >> Hi Angharad
> >>
> >> I hope this info is of some use.
> >>
> >> On the freebmd site there is a record of a death qt ending june 1884
> >> of Aaron Roberts aged 49 in the district of Llandovery.
> >>
> >> Hwyl
> >>
> >> Anne
> >>
> >>>----Original Message----
> >>>From: angharad.melinywig(a)tiscali.co.uk
> >>>Date: 11/05/2008 9:56
> >>>To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
> >>>Subj: Re: [CMN-L] Newchurch, Carmarthen
> >>>
> >>>Hi Pauline
> >>>Thank you also for your kind offer. I don't have much more
> >> information other
> >>>than what I sent to Sian as below - there were no other children as
> >> far as I
> >>>know - at least none that survived. The boy Aaron probably bp at
> >> Caernarfon
> >>>[born there] that I must look for but the girl Jane Caroline was born
> >> in
> >>>Carmarthen - at least her birth was registered at Carmarthen during
> >> the
> >>>March qtr 1859. so should be baptized somewhere in the area. After
> >> the Rev
> >>>Aaron Rbts's death at the age of 49 yrs we have his wife - who was
> >> born in
> >>>Caernarfon - becoming the matron at Wellfield Rd High Grade School
> >> [1891
> >>>census] but as previously mentioned, in 1901(census) - death
> >> registered June
> >>>qtr - she was a boarder living on own means at Quay Head and it's
> >> obvious
> >>>that she was unwell as her sister was staying there caring for her. I
> >> don't
> >>>know when he left Caernarfon other than after the birth of the son in
> >> Sept
> >>>qtr 1857 and Jane was born as mentioned in 1859. He was at Newchurch
> >>>described as incumbent of Newchurch and chaplaincy of God? in the
> >> 1861
> >>>census. Was he at another church in the Carmarthen area prior to 1861
> >> but if
> >>>his children died after he became vicar of Newchurch one would have
> >> expected
> >>>them to have been buried there unless he was elsewhere and a child
> >> died soon
> >>>after birth between March qtr 1859 and 1861 and they purchased a
> >> grave at
> >>>that unknown church. A possibility I suppose. There are quite a few
> >>>Roberts's on the BMD during that period including two Mary's in
1860
> >> and
> >>>his mother's name was Mary. I'm afraid that's all I can tell
you
> >> about them.
> >>>
> >>>Thank you for going to such trouble
> >>>Regards
> >>>Angharad
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "paulinejames" <paulinejames(a)paulinejames.co.uk>
> >>>To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
> >>>Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 8:58 AM
> >>>Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Newchurch, Carmarthen
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> HI Angharad
> >>>>
> >>>> so pleased that Sian has offered to try to help you.........the
> >> parish
> >>>> Vicar
> >>>> would probably be buried in his own parish church graveyard.......
> >> that is
> >>>> what I have come across anyway.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have looked in various parishes for any of these Roberts......
> >> will try
> >>>> looking further afield....do you have any extra information, other
> >>>> children
> >>>> etc., as I cannot see him baptising his children in Newchurch or
> >>>> Llangadog/oc........any little clue would help
> >>>>
> >>>> regards Pauline
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Angharad Williams"
<angharad.melinywig(a)tiscali.co.uk>
> >>>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 7:09 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Newchurch, Carmarthen
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Sian
> >>>>> That is kind of you. Of course I can wait - this genealogy is
> >> always
> >>>>> about
> >>>>> patience! I have no idea where they could be buried other than
in
> >> a
> >>>>> churchyard as he was a vicar - having been vicar at Newchurch
for
> >> a
> >>>>> number
> >>>>> of years - he was there in 1861 and 1871 census but from other
> >>>>> information
> >>>>> that I have I'm sure he was there in 1876. By 1881 he was
at
> >> Llangadog.
> >>>>> So
> >>>>> both children died while he was at Newchurch - living first in
> >> Peter St
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> then in Mansel St, Carmarthen. I believe his wife Jane died at
> >> Quay Head,
> >>>>> that would be in 1901. That's why I thought that they would
be
> >> buried at
> >>>>> Newchurch. But I have now been told [as you have seen] that
there
> >> is no
> >>>>> record of any of them buried there up to 1875 - that is the two
> >> children.
> >>>>> I
> >>>>> was once told that a vicar could not be buried in his own
> >> churchyard - I
> >>>>> don't know whether this is significant but one would have
thought
> >> that
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> burial would have taken place in the vicinity of Carmarthen. He
> >> married
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> 1856 but I'm not sure where he was between that date and
1859.
> >> Possibly
> >>>>> he
> >>>>> became a curate in Caernarfon before his marriage as his wife
was
> >> from
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> town, and his son Aaron was born there in 1857 but he was in
> >>>>> Carmarthenshire, probably at Newchurch by 1859 when his
daughter
> >> Jane
> >>>>> Caroline was born. So it's unlikely that he held another
living
> >> between
> >>>>> 1857
> >>>>> & 1859.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So I appreciate your offer
> >>>>> Diolch yn fawr
> >>>>> Hwyl Angharad
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Sian Jones" <sianwynn(a)gmail.com>
> >>>>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 4:38 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Newchurch, Carmarthen
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Angharad,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I will be going home in the fall and can check the archives
and
> >> the
> >>>>>> graveyard for you- if you can wait until then! I also have
a lot
> >> of
> >>>>>> family
> >>>>>> in Newchurch and area so am familiar with the graveyard in
> >> question. Do
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>> think they might have been buried in Bwlchnewydd by any
chance?
> >> I can
> >>>>>> always look there too. They are quite close together!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hwyl,
> >>>>>> Sian Jones
> >>>>>> sianwynn(a)gmail.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2008/5/9 Angharad Williams
<angharad.melinywig(a)tiscali.co.uk>:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dear list
> >>>>>>> If someone should be visiting the local archives office
could
> >> they
> >>>>>>> please
> >>>>>>> check for the possible burials of the following family -
I could
> >> then
> >>>>>>> discover whether there is likely to be a grave at
Newchurch
> >>>>>>> Reverend Aaron Roberts [one time incumbent of Newchurch.
He was
> >> there
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>> the 1861 & 1871 census] who died during the June qtr
of 1884 age
> >> 49
> >>>>>>> [possibly when vicar of Llangadog]
> >>>>>>> wife Jane died Carmarthen June quarter 1901 age 69
> >>>>>>> and 2 children -
> >>>>>>> Aaron Roberts died March qtr 1865 age about 8 yrs
> >>>>>>> Jane Caroline Roberts died June qtr 1862 about 3 yrs old
[both
> >> probably
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> Peter St, Carmarthen]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I would be grateful for any additional information
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thank you
> >>>>>>> Angharad
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