From: Barb doe <pony_b1(a)yahoo.com>
Date: 2009/04/28 Tue AM 03:30:47 EDT
To: "Denise C. Lambkin" <d.c.lambkin(a)reading.ac.uk>
CC: carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] David Samuel
Hi Denise
I really do appreciate your help on my david samuel.
Out of curiosity i went to FreeReg website and found what i believe to be other
children of David(snr) and Jane(Evan/Evans) it gave actual birth dates as well as bapt
dates.
Margaret and Mary (twins) b 1818
Jane b 1822
John b 1823
Phylip b 1825
Benjamin b 1829
Joseph b 1832
Benjamin b 1835
Living at Old Gate Llanelly. All were Bapt in Cape Newydd Church
however no mention of a there being son David or william or a richard :-(
I am sure there must be a Richard somewhere as my David jnr had a son also called David
had a son called Richard.
I will keep the info you gave me and hopefully it will tie in somewhere
thanks once again
Barb
--- On Sat, 4/25/09, Denise C. Lambkin <d.c.lambkin(a)reading.ac.uk> wrote:
> From: Denise C. Lambkin <d.c.lambkin(a)reading.ac.uk>
> Subject: David Samuel
> To: carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com
> Cc: pony_b1(a)yahoo.com
> Date: Saturday, April 25, 2009, 3:50 PM
> Hi Barb
>
>
>
> The only David Samuel I could find in 1841 who was a
> collier and living in Llanelly is:
>
>
>
> HO107/1379, book 7, Folio 36, page 8
>
> France[?], Llanelly Carmarthen
>
> David Samuel, 55, Collier, Born in county
>
> Jane Samuel, 35, , Born in county
>
> Mary Samuel, 10, , Born in county
>
> Anne Samuel, 4, , Born in county
>
>
>
> I think David and Jane's ages are a bit out because I think
> this is them in the 1851 census:
>
>
>
> HO107/2468 folio 277, page 34, schedule 123
>
> Rhandir, Llanelly
>
> David Samuel, 54, Engine worker, b. Llanelly Carmarthen
>
> Jane Samuel, 56, wife, b. Llanelly Carmarthen
>
> [engine worker in a colliery?]
>
>
>
> There is a marriage in the IGI that could match:
>
> IGI marriage (member submission, so don't know how they got
> the info)
>
> David Samuel (b. about 1792) married Jane Evan 17 Oct 1817,
> Llanelly Carmarthen
>
>
>
> Also, your David and William in Merthyr are also there in
> 1841, along with another possible brother:
>
> HO107/1415, Book 4, Folio 26, page 22
>
> No 24, Merthyr Tydfil
>
> David Samuel, 20, Smith, not born in county
>
> Richard Samuel, 25, Miner, not born in county
>
> William Samuel, 20, Miner, not born in county
>
>
>
> Since ages in the 1841 awere rounded, it is possible that
> Richard, b. about 1816 from the 1841 census is the product
> of the David & Jane marriage in 1817.
>
>
>
> If this is a family group, then there might be more
> children between David, b. 1821/22 and Mary b.about 1831.
>
>
>
> Hopefully you will get some more information to help
> prove/disprove this grouping.
>
>
>
> Denise
>
>
>
>
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