There's an excellent chapter on Welsh surnames in Welsh Family History
edited by John Rowlands which with lots of info on patronymics which
supports your case! It is out of print now but I got my copy on Amazon
Marketplace or you could possibly find a library copy. Hope this helps.
Joanna
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[mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of 10John
Sent: 25 February 2009 14:12
To: Carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CMN-L] Patronymics
Could the List help me on a matter of Patronymics.
I am helping a friend with his family tree. We have traced it back to a
Thomas Samuel whose birth on 4th July, 1799 is recorded on the Register of
Llanedi, Newhouse Independent Chapel (in Welsh known as "Ty newydd")
The Register shows the parents as being Samuel Gibbs and Sarah. Their other
children, Ann Samuel and Griffith Samuel, are also shown on the same
register.
I am confident from surrounding information that we have the right person,
but my friend will not accept this. He says that as his surname is Samuel it
is not possible for him to be descended down the male line from someone
called "Gibbs". I say that this is what Patronymics is all about. Can the
List confirm that I am correct and explain how patronymics were still
operational at the start of C19th in industrial south -east Carmarthenshire.
(The Register for Newhouse has other examples)
If I am wrong will the List say so, and I will then have to grovel.
John
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