I forgot to say, Pauline, that Rose was Florence's surname, she was Florence
Jane Rose. Regards Moyna
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pauline James" <pauline(a)paulinejames.com>
To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] ST CLEARS
Hi Moyna
If they were baptised in one of the non-conformist chapels it is very
unlikely that there are records to show........very few chapels have
existing records....most do not even record burials when they even have a
fairly large burial ground....
I will see if I can find any burials in Bethlehem Pwlltrap St Clears
parish.....
Do you have the father in earlier census returns.....where and when did he
state he was born, perhaps I can see if they are in the parish
church......What was Florence Rose's surname?
Pauline
----- Original Message -----
From: "Moyna Harland" <harbiz(a)iinet.net.au>
To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] ST CLEARS
> Pauline..William John Davies married by licence in the register office
> Carmarthen on 13th October 1903. He was aged 19 and neither he nor his
> bride, Florence Rose, had any members of their families as witnesses,
> which
> makes me wonder whether they had gone off to the register office to get
> married without their parents' knowledge. Both gave St Clears as their
> residence..(William at the Swan Hotel)
> I have William J living with a Joseph Davies and family in St Clears in
> 1891
> and 1901. In 1901 the Davis family was living in Sion Lodge, next door to
> the Sion Baptist chapel. Perhaps William was baptised there? Is it
> possible
> to check there?
> William J had several siblings..among them Esther born about 1890, Amy c
> 1887 and Hannah c 1882, (as well as other older ones). Would you be able
> to
> see if any of these were baptised? If none of them were then it looks as
> they must have been baptised in one of the chapels, probably the Baptist.
> Would Sion Lodge be attached to the Sion chapel?
> With thanks again for your help Pauline, regards Moyna
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "UK Genealogy" <ukgenealogy(a)onvol.net>
> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] ST CLEARS
>
>
>> Hi Moyna
>>
>> I have the baptisms for St Clears into the 1900's but William John
>> Davies
>> son of Joseph is not baptised in the parish church......
>>
>> Where did William John Davies marry? This may give a clue as to the
>> denomination....
>>
>> I do not have the later marriages .....sorry
>>
>> Pauline
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Moyna Harland" <harbiz(a)iinet.net.au>
>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] ST CLEARS
>>
>>
>>> Pauline,
>>> Thank you so much for your very kind offer. The St Clears
>>> family that I'm researching is the Davies family.
>>> I would like the baptism of William John Davies who was
>>> born
>>> circa 1884 in St Clears (father Joseph, mason, according to
>>> his
>>> marriage cert).
>>> I am also searching for the marriage of Joseph Davies and
>>> Elizabeth Griffiths in 1872
>>> and the burials of Joseph Davies, (1891-1901) and his wife
>>> Mary Davies (1881-1891)
>>> and the burials of Joseph and Elizabeth Davies post 1901
>>>
>>> If you are able to help me with any of these I would be
>>> most
>>> grateful. Thank you again for your offer,
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Moyna
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "UK Genealogy" <ukgenealogy(a)onvol.net>
>>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:55 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] ST CLEARS
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Moyna
>>>>
>>>> give me the names you are interested in and I will look for you if you
>>>> wish.....there is a CD of 'St Clears Anthology'....
>>>>
>>>> Pauline
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Moyna Harland" <harbiz(a)iinet.net.au>
>>>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:10 AM
>>>> Subject: [CMN-L] ST CLEARS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I had hoped to be able to order a film of the parish registers for St
>>>>>Clears from my local LDS library here in Western Australia, but it
>>>>>seems
>>>>>that neither the parish church nor the Baptist chapel registers have
>>>>>been
>>>>>filmed for the period in which I am interested, 1860's to
1890's. Can
>>>>>any
>>>>>kind person suggest what I can do, or is there any kind person who
can
>>>>>access these for me to look up several possible events?
>>>>> Regards Moyna Harland
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