Bob,
Firstly, I found that Cirhedyn is north of Trelech, which is near
Carmarthen.
Here is a copy of 1861, it says John Davies is from Abergwillly. Based on
what you say,
Margaret Davies born 1834 in Trelech to John Davies and Sarah Thomas, I
searched 1841 census, and there was only one John and Sarah Davies, living at
Abernant is between Trelech and Carmarthen. I give that below as well,
and also a possible Margaret Davies in 1851. I would suggest the next best
thing is to get a birth certificat for Margaret Davies which you have
details of, from Carmarthenshire Archives, which may help you trace further back,
also a marriage certificate for John and Margaret which you know the date
of from Carmarthen Record Office.
Regards
Helen
1841
Name
Relation
Condition
Sex
Age
Birth
Year
Occupation
Disability
Where Born
Original
census
image
____________________________________
DAVIES, John
Head
Married
M
33
1828
Furnace Maker In A Copper Works
Abergwilly
Carmarthenshire
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DAVIES, Margaret
Wife
Married
F
27
1834
Cilrhedyn
Carmarthenshire
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RG number:
RG09
Piece:
4113
Folio:
7
Page:
8
Registration District:
Llanelly
Sub District:
2 Llanelly
EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish:
Llanelly
Municipal Borough:
Address:
New Road, Llanelly
County:
Carmarthenshire
Name
Relation
Condition
Sex
Age
Birth
Year
Occupation
Disability
Where Born
Original
census
image
____________________________________
JONES, James
Head
Married
M
65
1786
Farmer
Trelech
Carmarthenshire
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JONES, Martha
Wife
Married
F
53
1798
Llandrinio
Carmarthenshire
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JONES, Martha
Son
Unmarried
M
22
1829
Employed On The Farm
Trelech
Carmarthenshire
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JONES, John
Son
Unmarried
M
20
1831
Employed On The Farm
Trelech
Carmarthenshire
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JONES, Thomas
Son
Unmarried
M
18
1833
Employed On The Farm
Trelech
Carmarthenshire
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JONES, Evan
Son
Unmarried
M
15
1836
Employed On The Farm
Trelech
Carmarthenshire
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RMARTHEN,%20Carmarthenshire<br>HO107%20%20piece%202474%20folio%20281%20page%
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JONES, Anne
Daughter
Unmarried
F
13
1838
Scholar
Trelech
Carmarthenshire
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THOMAS, Pheboe
Servant
Unmarried
F
24
1827
Dairy Maid
Llanfair
Pembrokeshire
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DAVIES, Margret
Servant
F
19
1832
House Maid
Trelech
Carmarthenshire
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____________________________________
RG number:
HO107
Piece:
2474
Folio:
281
Page:
4
Registration District:
Carmarthen
Sub District:
Conwil
EnumerationDistrict:
7F
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish:
Treleach
Municipal Borough:
Address:
Penrhiw, Treleach
County:
Carmarthenshire
Cirhedyn is north of Trelech, which is near Carmarthen
1841
____________________________________
DAVIES, Thomas
M
40
1801
Carmarthenshire
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DAVIES, Sarah
F
35
1806
Carmarthenshire
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DAVIES, David
M
9
1832
Carmarthenshire
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DAVIES, John
M
7
1834
Carmarthenshire
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DAVIES, Margaret
F
6
1835
Carmarthenshire
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DAVIES, William
M
4
1837
Carmarthenshire
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GRIFFITHS, Margaret
F
20
1821
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REES, Jane
F
15
1826
Carmarthenshire
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____________________________________
RG number:
HO107
Piece:
1383
Book/Folio:
6/17
Page:
7
Registration District:
Carmarthen
Sub District:
Conwil
EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
Civil Parish:
Abernant
Municipal Borough:
Address:
Pwlldyfarch, Abernant
County:
Carmarthenshire
In a message dated 19/04/2010 06:48:41 GMT Daylight Time,
robertgascoigne(a)cox.net writes:
Hello List
I am seeking information on a Benjamin Davies born 1864 to a John Davies
and Margaret . John worked at a Copper works , I have found a John and
Margaret who fit this description on the 1861 census John is 33 and Margaret is
27. John's place of birth is Llanelly, and Margaret's is Cilrhedyn. I
found two John Davies to Margaret marriages in 1860 in Llanelly. I checked the
Hugh Wallis site and Cilrhdyn has no Margaret Lewis in the age group but
four Margaret Davies of the wrong ages . On the 1881 census I found a
Margaret Davies of the right age born 1834 born Trelech a Widow with a son
Benjamin born 1864 which is the age I am looking for. Benjamin's son Richard
Selway Davies married my aunt Lucy Ann (Gascoigne) Metcalfe from Pembroke.
I know it is a long shot
Bob
http://www.free-genealogy-online.info
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