Hi Pauline
Thanks for reply. This family is fast becoming the worst I have ever
dealt with! Taken me years to get this far!.
Yes, you are right, they were living at Wern which I think became later
Wern Road, in Llanelli in 1851.
Their children in order are :
Jane abt 1838, Thomas abt 1840, William abt 1842, David abt 1845, Walter
abt 1848, Mary abt. 1850. Mary being my ancestor. Mary was put as 3 months
on 1851 census but no-one Carmarthen nor Llanelli can find a birth for her.
So I tried the others.
I got David, born 1st July 1845, Coscothy, Llanelly, mother Ann formerly
Thomas and Walter Williams, father, shoemaker.
Going by census, this tallies up. I think Walter b.1848 may have died as
he's not shown at all afterwards on following census, but cannot find death
certificate. And also Walter remarries and son again called Walter, so I
believe, first Walter son died.
Later on, Ann, the mother must've died as Walter remarries Jane Thomas (I'm
not sure if sister, and have proved this marriage by census and witnesses
on Mary's marriage (the daughter), but cannot find marriage certificate of
this either).
I seem to get on things that don't help. LIke quite a bit on the second
marriage and also got Walter's death certificate, his son Walter the second
present at death.
The only marriage around these dates that seems to constantly pop up is in
Glamorganshire, but apart from dates and names I cannot match.
The one in Glamorganshire is parish Merthyr Tydfil for both parties married
1838. But I can't fathom out without finding births, why they would've
been living in Merthyr and married there, seems rather far away.
I'm pretty sure I asked for a search for marriage 1837-1839 but to no avail
but I'll have to check my notes.
Any ideas?
Regards
Helen
In a message dated 25/10/2010 10:28:48 GMT Daylight Time, genuk3(a)melita.com
writes:
Hi Helen
I can see that they were living in the Wern district in 1851.......wonder
if
Coscothy is around there, cannot pinpoint it at the moment.....Which child
do you have the birth certificate for? Did you purchase it direct from
Carmarthen registry office, as I believe they hold the Llanelli ones
now.....
It was not law until 1874 to register a birth, maybe they fell through the
net, as if money was short and they did not have to probably they did not
bother with all of the children.
Cannot find a marriage prior to 1837.......the only Walter Williams to an
Ann was in Llangendeirne in 1825 but she was an Ann Davies.
Pauline
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Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Marriage - Walter Williams
Hi Pauline,
Thanks for doing that, appreciated. I did ask the Record Office for
later
on but they cannot find a marriage of Walter Williams to Ann Thomas after
1837, so I'm left with either the one at Merthyr Tydfil, or nothing.
It seems rather a long way away having been always put down as living in
Llanelly on all census. and that they were both born Llanelly,
Carmarthenshire?
I've taken years to find just one birth of the children, which came
yesterday confirming parents names, but birth in Coscothy, Lllanelly.
Do
you
know where Coscothy is? I don't think it was a farm or such. Walter, the
father was a shoemaker originally, then a miner.
This birth is a child older than my relative, and I've given up with
finding her birth which I thought would be easy seeing she was 3 months
on
1851
census? How wrong I was!
Thanks
Helen
In a message dated 23/10/2010 09:06:17 GMT Daylight Time,
genuk3(a)melita.com
writes:
Hi Helen
I can only find one Walter William/s to an Ann Thomas in Llanelly, but
that
was in 1777 cannot find another one, only 2 in the whole Carmarthenshire
marriages from 1754-1837.
Do you think they could have married after June of 1837 ?
Pauline
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Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:33 PM
Subject: [CMN-L] Marriage - Walter Williams
> Hi
>
> I just wondered if SKS had the ability to do a look up for marriages
> pre1837. I have a couple,
> Walter Williams and Ann Thomas both of Llanelly (according to census
and
a
> birth certificate of one child).
>
> The only one I can find is in Glamorganshire - Merthyr Tydfil, but as
they
> stayed in Llanelly on all census, I just wondered if someone could look
up
> Carmarthenshire for me.
>
> I only know one child was born abt. 1838, so I'm assuming marriage
> possibly
> 1838/37 but there could've been earlier children, hence earlier
> marriage.
>
> Many thanks in anticipation.
>
> Helen
>
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