Hi Eirwyn
I'm not related to this Thomas Davies as far as I know but he was from Talley as was
my 5 x great
grandfather. He (TD of Coity) could be a nephew or great nephew of my Thomas Davies. There
are a lot
of Rev Thomas Davies' around. I did some research yesterday and found his wife Elinor
mentioned in
the records of Stockwood of Bridgend , Solicitors.
See
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/onlinelists/GB%200214%20DST_cld.pdf
The document gives a brief description of the individual contents of the papers.
It was Lady Charlotte Edwin who appointed Thomas Davies as rector of Coity.
My Thomas Davies's mother was Mary a daughter of the Richards (later to become
Pritchards) of the
Collenna estates. They seem to have produced a number of clergymen as well. I know there
are a lot
of papers concerning the Collenna estates in the archive in Cardiff.
There is an article in the latest Glamorgan FHS journal about the Popkin family which is
what has
sparked this interest. I didn't read it properly which is where the confusion arose.
Thanks very much for your input Eirwyn.
I'm still hoping that someone has some info on the Davies' of Talley.
Cheers
Roger Hopkins
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I know a little about the Thomas Davies
who was described as Rector of Coity who died, I believe, on 24th July 1819. (I'm
not in any > way related to him ? as far as I know ?
but a distant relative married into his family.) Unfortunately, I
don't have any detail of his ancestry although, like you, I seem to
recall reading that he had Carmarthenshire connections.
There seems to have been some confusion
as to who TD married. I have the following detail from the marriage
bonds at the National Library - ?Marriage Bond:Davies, Thomas,
bach, clerk, Coity, Glamorgan to Davies, Elinor, sp., Coity,
Glamorgan : 1774 Aug. 24. ? And, in 1844, when Elinor died she is
described in the Cambrain News as ?AT BRIDGEND, MRS ELINOR DAVIES,
WIDOW OF REV.THOMAS DAVIES, RECTOR OF COITY.?
Their daughter, Elizabeth 1794 -1855,
married Dan Popkin, tanner, of Bridgend who, himself, was the son of
Mary Prichard of the Talygarn/Collenau family. This, probably, is
where the confusion has arisen.
I don't have my notes handy at the
moment but, from memory, this Thomas Davies was one of a group of
Methodist practitioners in Wales who were provided with their
'livings' thanks to the patronage of a certain lady whose name I
can't recall. (Presumably, TD chose not to go off with the other
people who actually started to appoint their own Methodist ministers
after about 1810.)
I have his Llandaff will showing as
?1819 will of Rev Thomas Davies LL/1819/29?
Although I haven't examined them
myself, I have a note which states ?Large collection of Papers of
reverend Thomas Davies of Coity held at Glamorgan Record Office GB
214 DST16. [Personal and professional.]?
Hope some of this is of some help.
Eirwyn Davies, Aberystwyth