Hi Pauline
I have been away for a week. As to William Morris, I think he went to America as he is not
in later census returns, no death for him here and his daughter pops up in the 1880 US
census.
So I have no other place of birth to go on.
I read that there was an 1801-1831 Carmarthenshire census inhabitants index. Is this
true? I was thinking of trying to find out what coal mines were where in the county in the
mid1830s and then searching those parishes for a baptism.
Do you know any county researchers who might be able to look for that information?
Liz
From: genuk3(a)melita.com
To: carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:12:27 +0100
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Monumental Inscriptions
Hi Liz
Where is Abernantygroes chapel? I have looked in my book of non-conformist
chapels but it is not mentioned....
Did he give place of birth in later census returns?
Pauline
----- Original Message -----
From: "Liz Peters" <searchyourpast(a)hotmail.com>
To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Monumental Inscriptions
>
> William married 3 December 1856 at Abernantygroes baptist chapel to Mary
> John. He was 22 a coal miner the son of Thomas Morris a deceased coal
> miner. The couple are in Aberdare in 1861 with a baby son Lewis. They had
> a daughter Ann b10 April 1866 in Aberdare.
> I can find no trace of them after then but I think the whole family might
> have gone to America as Ann was found there in 1880 with her mother's
> brother.
> I have tried going through every William Morris in the census but I can't
> find any clear cut candidate....
>
>> From: genuk3(a)melita.com
>> To: carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com
>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 12:01:10 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Monumental Inscriptions
>>
>> Hi Liz
>>
>> What information do you have on William Thomas.....I have searched our
>> 1841
>> index and 1851 index but I too cannot conclusively locate him......as you
>> can imagine quite a few by this name......cannot see him in Carmarthen
>> 1841.......
>>
>> Let me know what information you have and where he is in the census you
>> have
>> found him ...
>>
>> Pauline
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Liz Peters" <searchyourpast(a)hotmail.com>
>> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 11:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Monumental Inscriptions
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Hi Pauline
>> > This is the problem. My William Morris just says born Carmarthen c1834
>> > so
>> > I don't know whether he really means Carmarthen or just anywhere in
the
>> > whole county. He was the son of Thomas Morris a coal miner and I can't
>> > identify them conclusively in the 1841/1851 census.
>> >
>> > Liz
>> >
>> >> From: genuk3(a)melita.com
>> >> To: carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com
>> >> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 10:13:50 +0100
>> >> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Monumental Inscriptions
>> >>
>> >> Hi Liz
>> >>
>> >> This one has come through......which parish are you interested in
>> >> exactly?
>> >>
>> >> thanks Pauline
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Liz Peters" <searchyourpast(a)hotmail.com>
>> >> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 9:59 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Monumental Inscriptions
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Hello
>> >> > My messages don't seem to be getting through. I am trying to
>> >> > establish
>> >> > if
>> >> > there is a baptismal index for the county for the 1830's.
>> >> > Thank you
>> >> > Liz Peters
>> >> >
>> >> >> From: genuk3(a)melita.com
>> >> >> To: carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com
>> >> >> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 10:02:05 +0100
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Monumental Inscriptions
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Les
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Her name was Anne.....the month of her death was May, sorry to
>> >> >> confuse
>> >> >> you....
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Shaws Lane and Priory Street was the trading part of
Carmarthen
>> >> >> Town....that
>> >> >> is why I am assuming he maybe had his own pipemaking business?
Just
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> wild
>> >> >> guess...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I will see what directories I can find for that time..
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Pauline
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: "Leslie Bush" <progman(a)ntlworld.com>
>> >> >> To: <carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com>
>> >> >> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 9:03 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Monumental Inscriptions
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Hi Pauline,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thank you for this information. I already had the burial
of the
>> >> >> > Daughter but the wife I didn't. Actually, you have
been more
>> >> >> > helpful than you think because I only had her as
"Anne" - which
>> >> >> > appears
>> >> >> > on the 1841 & 1851 census. So to learn that she was
May Ann is
>> >> >> > something
>> >> >> > of a bonus! I do have the baptisms, thanks, but I
haven't seen
>> >> >> > any
>> >> >> > directories though.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Is there something t=significant about Shaws Lane -
Priory Street
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > leads you to suppose the pipe smoking connection?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks again
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Les
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On 28/02/2011 09:08, UKGenealogy [Pauline] wrote:
>> >> >> >> Hi Les
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I cannot find a burial for James, but I have his wife
and
>> >> >> >> daughter
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> St Peters burials
>> >> >> >> 1822 6th May - Elizabeth Bush, Priory St (no age)
>> >> >> >> baptised 28 Nov 1820)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> St Davids burials
>> >> >> >> 1855 22 May Ann Bush, Priory Street aged 68
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I have 5 baptisms to James and Ann, Pipemaker, do you
have
>> >> >> >> these?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Being as he lived in Shaws Lane and Priory Street, I
would
>> >> >> >> assume
>> >> >> >> he
>> >> >> >> may
>> >> >> >> have been a smoking pipe maker.....
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Have you checked directories for Carmarthen Town?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Pauline
>> >> >> >
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