That's famous enough for me! I bet you didn't make as much noise as the
"little screaming darlings" do nowadays!
Can you remember what Mt Pleasant looked like in those days - were there
still houses both sides of the road etc?
If you were there in the mid 50s you would have been there around the
same time as Terry Griffiths and Phil Bennett - Terry was born in 1947
so that would tell you if you were in the same year or younger.
Janie Watkins
janie(a)paw-print.demon.co.uk
www.globalsnookercentre.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Ray Morris [mailto:ray.morris@ntlworld.com]
Sent: 30 December 2002 10:28
To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Mailings
Not sure if I count as famous but I also went to Old Road School as did
my sister. I have some photos of school concerts from the mid 1950s and
also the final year class photo of 1957! Some names I recall are John
and David Davies (twins), Nigel John and Francis Howell-Jones! Also
Russell?, Owen?, Rupert Davies(?) - can't remember any of the girls'
names!
Ray
----- Original Message -----
From: Janie Watkins <janie(a)paw-print.demon.co.uk>
To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: [Cmn-L] Mailings
Well the houses certainly ran both sides of the road until relatively
recently - there's now a field owned by Old Road School... I guess
that Old Gate would either have been at the top of the lane opposite
my front door - going back down to Old Road - or at the corner by
number 8... I don't know where Bryncaerau Lodge is - unless that is
the building at the top of the lane by the cemetary... Unless old gate
was actually the name of a block of the houses - which would probably
be the ones from the other side of the road, which have gone now. My
little block that's left which are on the Mount Pleasant pub side of
the road, the houses left, numbered from the Felinfoel Road end are
3,4,5,6,7,8 (I'm no 5 in the middle) there were houses going a bit
further back up the hill ie higher than 8 and a few more where Princes
court is now by the main road and some opposite princess court - but
I
don't think there were ever any on the Old Road school land cos I
think that was built around 1870 and I can't see any reason why they
would have knocked down a load of houses to build the school - it's a
strange area as the land slopes from two directions - my front door is
a lot lower than the back of my garden - but the length of the street
also slopes steeply downwards from the Old Rd cemetary area at the top
down to Felinfoel Road - if you look across the gardens, we're
all on
different levels - my garden wall is level with the top of my
neighbours greenhouse for instance... The rear access has long since
gone - gobbled up as one long garden for one of the houses behind us -
I'd like to see the deeds that gave our access away! I dug up
half my
garden when I first moved in and uncovered original "victorian"
flagstones leading to the bottom of the garden. I met a chap in town
who actually used to live in my house with his family in the late
1940s-1950s and he told me they were a family of TEN
- I didn't dare ask him how they all fitted in what is now a one
bedroom terrace cottage!
I think Union Buildings - behind us towards Parc Howard are of the
same vintage - very narrow road and similar size and style frontage -
and all the other houses are much more recent.
Old Road school has had some famous pupils over the years including
Phil Bennett and Terry Griffiths - not sure of any others - Phil and
Griff were actually in the same class.
Janie Watkins
janie(a)paw-print.demon.co.uk
www.globalsnookercentre.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: Pauline James [mailto:paulinejames@btinternet.com]
Sent: 28 December 2002 17:06
To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Mailings
Hi Janie
According to the census returns.....Mount Pleasant went as far as
Bryncaerau Lodge .....Mount Pleasant public house was ran by a John
Jenkins Saddler.....Mount pleasant was split by 7 dwellings known as
Old Gate...
There were 48 different families living in a place named Mount
Pleasant.....perhaps they were on both sides of the road then....I'll
get the reel out and see if I can follow the enumerator's route.....
Pauline
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janie Watkins" <janie(a)paw-print.demon.co.uk>
To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 3:09 PM
Subject: RE: [Cmn-L] Mailings
> That is a lot of people - although originally there were more houses
> here than there are now - there are only six left. That does
tell me
> that the houses were built by 1850 but I'm still not sure of
the
> exact
> year.
>
> I've never been across to Capel Newydd but I'm sure I could manage
> to cross the road!
>
> ..I've seen the weather forecast - more rain and wind - so get out
> and
> make the most of it today!in fact there's a huge glowering cloud
> moving over already - better get the washing in!
>
> Janie Watkins
> janie(a)paw-print.demon.co.uk
>
www.globalsnookercentre.co.uk
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pauline James [mailto:paulinejames@btinternet.com]
> Sent: 28 December 2002 14:54
> To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Mailings
>
>
> Hi Janie
>
> I looked in 1851 census index and there are 241 entries for Mount
> Pleasant Llanelly, also a place of this name in Glyn
> hamlet......Rather a lot of people don't you think!!
>
> The burials for Llanelli we (Carmsfhs) have indexed from 1693 to
> 1847.......no other indexes are available for this burial
> ground....all these entries are in the burial register for St Elli,
> I know of no monumentals that have been done for this
> church.....Carmsfhs have digital images of the old section of Box
> cemetary, which as you know only allowed non-conformists at one
> stage to be buried here, as all the Chapels got together to purchase
> the land......it is now owned by Llanelli council...
>
> Have you been into the burial ground across the road from you in
> Capel
> Newydd.....??
>
> Weather fine here in Llanelli today, as you say it makes a change
> from
> all the rain we have had.....
>
> speak soon Pauline
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janie Watkins" <janie(a)paw-print.demon.co.uk>
> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 12:27 PM
> Subject: RE: [Cmn-L] Mailings
>
>
> > Hi
> > As it's actually stopped raining for a while - I took a walk up to
> > the
>
> > Old Road Cemetary this morning - you were right Pauline, it's a
> > lot tidier than it was a few years back and fairly easy to
> > navigate - I don't know if anyone has done an index of the graves
> > at all - I've got
>
> > a feeling Dyfed family history might have done a few years back -
> > but if anyone thinks their family connections may be there - let
> > me know and I'll go and hunt around and get headstone details and
> > a photo.
> >
> > And if anyone from "away" is hoping to visit their Carms roots in
> > 2003, I notice that the Carmarthenshire county site has a
> > competition to win a short break - so get entering!
> >
> > Pauline - while you're trawling around the old censuses - I'd be
> > very interested to know if you come across Mt Pleasant Buildings
> > at all - it would be interesting to know who lied here in times
> > gone by.
> >
> > Janie Watkins
> > janie(a)paw-print.demon.co.uk
> >
www.globalsnookercentre.co.uk
> >
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