Just to add to Pat's Comments
At this time there are no Newchurch Parish Registers Available in the
Carmarthenshire Record Office.
These were available only on Microfilm until recently, [I do believe the
only registers available are at the National Library].
The Microfilm at the CRO, it seems has disappeared from the Microfiche &
Microfilm room along with several other relevant Parish register Microfilm.
John & David [archivist & deputy archivist] are considering rearranging the
microfilm/fiche room so these film are issued , rather than help yourself
then replace when completed and finished with.
If anyone has knowledge of the CRO, they will immediately understand the
complications and frustrating waiting for issues of any of this media,
filling in forms and signing out etc. etc.
This can only be thanks to the mindless individuals who decide that a
microfilm or microfiche is their personal property and deprive us the
researchers of researching.
Carmarthenshire FHS has informed the CRO if they purchase the Newchurch
Parish Registers from The National Library on Microfilm, that the Society
will pay all Costs.
Regards
Richard James
Wales Genealogy
Carmarthenshire-L
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From: "Pat Powell" <pat(a)pcubed.demon.co.uk
To:
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Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002
5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Anne Mallisa, Newchurch
Hello Tony
I expect the reason you have not had a reply is because the dates are
quite early and therefore people do not have the appropriate research
sources to hand.
Also with an unusual name such as Mallissa/Mellissa - are you sure it
isn't a strange transcription for Mellish or Mellisson which are more
common?
meanwhile - you say she married in Vaynor in 1820 can you tell us to
whom?
Presumably you have followed the family through the various census from
then on? - or do you need any other lookups?
Does every census give a bithplace of Newchurch? I often find that
different census provide different placenames.
Re 1791 - it is not certain that she would have been a church member at
that time - the Calvinistic methodist church, Cwmdwyfran entry in
"Parish churches and non-conformist chapels of Wales" although showing
that it was built in 1798 does state "a society was formed here years
before the chapel was built"
However the records available for births show 1813 - 1836.
It also mention "several old societies in the neighbourhood " including
Water Street, Carmarthen and Llanpumpsaint.
Water Street Carmarthen states that the society was formed in 1743 (12
members) births and baptism records start from 1806.
Llanpumpsaint - society was formed in 1742.
Hope some of this helps.
Pat
In message <20020830151208.YTTB27804.mta5-svc.business.ntl.com(a)[62.252.2
01.225]>, Rees <rstrees(a)tesco.net> writes
>S'mae - I have been trying for a long time to find any detail about one
of
>my gt-gt-gt-grandmothers, who went by the odd name of Anne
>Mallissa/Mellissa. She was married in Vaynor in 1820 and her parents
are
>given as Michael and Susanah Mallisie. She was born (Census) in
Newchurch,
>Carmarthenshire in 1791, and the Nonconformist records in Merthyr
Tydfil
>Library show that she really did bear that name (which presumably points
to
>an illegitimacy somewhere in the background). I was rushed in
Merthyr
and
>the type of Nonfonformist didn't seem to be given. Almost
everyone else
in
>the family was Calvinistic Methodist though, so she ought to be
in the
>Church records in 1791, since it was before th split, but I'm told she
>isn't. A check on that - and any other help -very gratefully received.
>Hwyl, Tony Rees
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