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I have in my possession a very worn out welsh bible once the property of Llansadwrn Church. It seems to have been in the hands of a number of different people who have added a few of their own family records. These are as follows, in the hope they may be of interest be to other listers: Mary Williams born 1712Edward Williams born Nov 15 1715Elizabeth Williams born Feb 11 1718John Williams born May 14 1720Jane Williams born Nov 25 1724? A scrap of paper records the banns of marriage to be read out between Evan Evans and Hannah Thomas 1843. (I think they may well be living in Llansadwrn with their three children in the 1851 census). William Roberts born June 2 1756Edward Roberts born Aug 11 1757 These may have died in 1826 and 1831 respectively from some sums made at the side, but that is not really clear. William Evans of Tycoch born July 6 1799 and baptized by Rev John Roberts of Talley. John Roberts is my gt gt gt grandfather's brother, so I would very much like to make contact with anyone who Knows anything about him. Someone with a name like Wallen Davies seems to have been in charge of the bible when it belonged to the church. Do hope some of this is good news for somebody!Geraldine Morris.
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Roy
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Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Caersalem chapel Pontyberem Baptisms
> Hi Roy
>
> There are no baptism records for Caersalem which was situated in
> Llangendeirne.........there is a note saying SEE Bethania Llannon.....when
> looking at Bethania Llanon there are records available in NLW, but it also
> states that Caersalem was part of Bethania only until 1818......
>
> You would have to check with Carmarthen registry office for births -
> normally when non-conformist you only have access to registers between
> 1813-1837 as this was the only time frame that they had to hand their
> registers in........
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> Pauline
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> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:28 PM
> Subject: [CMN-L] Caersalem chapel Pontyberem Baptisms
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>> Hi Pauline
>>
>> If you have access to the Baptism Records for the above would you be so
>> kind as to look as seen whether you have the baptism records for:
>>
>> Annie (1890), Joseph (1893), Lizzie (1893), Rosalind (1896), Wlliam
>> Gladney (1897), Sidney Rees (1898), Mary Louisa (1900), Lilian Anita
>> (1902), Albert Edwin (1903), Elvira Maud (1905), and Gwyneth (1910)
>> Davies.
>> Parents were Margaret Alice Davies and John Davies
>>
>> Thank you
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Hello,
I am new to this list. I am helping someone researching her family history as she doesn't have access to a computer.
I am trying to trace the following:
Births:
David REES born c. 1807 Llanllanawddog
Thomas TREHARNE born c. 1775
Sarah LLOYD born c. 1775
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Thomas & Sarah married in Llangendeirne 27 Sep 1796 [although the IGI also has a date of 27th Feb 1796].
Pauline..?GG Grandfather , Wm.Williams of Llanfair-ar-bryn died between 1841 and 1851. Carnarthen Registrars office unable to date to find his record. When he died records were in Llandovery Distirct, In 1935 these records were transferred to Carmarthen Distirict and in 1974 transferred to?Dyfed. Where do I go from here,?,,Thanks Bill
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From: paulinejames <paulinejames(a)paulinejames.co.uk>
To: carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 2:38 am
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Caersalem chapel Pontyberem Baptisms
Hi Roy
There are no baptism records for Caersalem which was situated in
Llangendeirne.........there is a note saying SEE Bethania Llannon.....when
looking at Bethania Llanon there are records available in NLW, but it also
states that Caersalem was part of Bethania only until 1818......
You would have to check with Carmarthen registry office for births -
normally when non-conformist you only have access to registers between
1813-1837 as this was the only time frame that they had to hand their
registers in........
Pauline
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Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 6:28 PM
Subject: [CMN-L] Caersalem chapel Pontyberem Baptisms
> Hi Pauline
>
> If you have access to the Baptism Records for the above would you be so
> kind as to look as seen whether you have the baptism records for:
>
> Annie (1890), Joseph (1893), Lizzie (1893), Rosalind (1896), Wlliam
> Gladney (1897), Sidney Rees (1898), Mary Louisa (1900), Lilian Anita
> (1902), Albert Edwin (1903), Elvira Maud (1905), and Gwyneth (1910)
> Davies.
> Parents were Margaret Alice Davies and John Davies
>
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Hello
I was wondering whether you records might reveal some death dates for me. I am trying to find out when Elizabeth Griffiths (nee Davies) and her husband William Griffiths and his mother Mary died. Last known address for all 3 was Dyffryn Bach (Little Vale), Glyn Hamlet. Elizabeth died 1891-1901 (poss 1898 or 1899), William also died between 1891-1901 (poss. 1894, 1895 or 1899). Mary died 1881-1891 (possibly 1882). Elizabeth was b.abt 1830, William abt. 1829 and Mary abt. 180.
Thank you
Hi Pauline
If you have access to the Baptism Records for the above would you be so kind as to look as seen whether you have the baptism records for:
Annie (1890), Joseph (1893), Lizzie (1893), Rosalind (1896), Wlliam Gladney (1897), Sidney Rees (1898), Mary Louisa (1900), Lilian Anita (1902), Albert Edwin (1903), Elvira Maud (1905), and Gwyneth (1910) Davies.
Parents were Margaret Alice Davies and John Davies
Thank you
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From: Barbara Thomas
To: carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 4:36 PM
Subject: Price Family St Clears
Hello
Can any of you give me information please,
I am trying to research the Price family who lived at Goitra Isaf farm St Clears from 1851-1891. I have found a baptism record for James Price 31st Jan 1824 Bethlehem Independent St Clears. Parents Richard & Ann Price. I cant find John his brother born abt 1810. I have also found baptism of an Anna Price 5th July 1807 in Meidrim ,parents also Richard & Ann Price. Anna appears to have died in 1808. She may have been the sister of John & James. So it could be possible that John was Born/ baptised in Meidrim, although Pauline can find no record of John Price baptism in Meidrim. Pauline found a marriage record for a Richard & Ann Price 1808 Nov St Clears Parish Church which makes Anna illegitimate. Richard & Ann price are recorded in the 1841 census as living in Moorsides? St Clears. We know these are descendants of my husband as they were often spoken about when he was a child. We have a tobacco twist with the name James Price Goitra Isaf Farm engraved on it. In 1881& 1891 census a James & Maryanne Thomas from Mountain Ash Glamorgan were staying on the farm, these we think were relatives of my husbands. When he was young he used to visit the Thomas family in Mountain Ash. I have the St Clears Anthology & have found the monumentals of Richard & Ann Price who we think are the parents of John & James. The farm is still in use, I would like to find out more of its history, when it was built & who it was owned by. As yet I find no record of the Prices being there before 1851. The farm is a few miles from Meidrim & St Clears, very near a farm called Caelleon, we have maps gong back to 1843-2006 & it can be found on www.getmapping.com Post code SA34 0DL so it is still occupied. Is there anyone out there who knows the farm or has any information which will help us. It will be most appreciated.
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There was a farm to the NW of Llanegwad called Cwm. My great uncle, John
Simpson, son of the Glantowy Simpsons, farmed there in the 1880s, having
been a draper in Newport for a while. Have never been able to understand
this career move.
When in the area last year I pinpointed
various family locations in the area via the OS map such as Glantowy and the
little cottage at Pantybedw where GG Gf Simpson retired. However, we came
down the hill towards Cwm and were totally unable to find it. According to
the latest OS map it is still there. What did I do wrong?
Sandie Reed
Hi Pauline,
Rachel does not appear in the 1841 census, so I assume she was married, i
don,t know who she married, I found a few possiblities, who she married, but am
unsure which is the right one, they were william Jones 1833 James rees 1836
William Owen 1832, Her parents are buried at caersalem, but I could not find a
Rachel rees buried there.
Margaret
Hi Pauline,
Thanks for the information on Rachel Rees, Do you have a marriage for her,
in the 1841 census her parents are living at marchologwyn ucha in llannon, so I
would hope she married in llanon parish church.
Her parents are buried at caersalem, there are quite a few of this Rees
family buried there but no rachel rees
margaret
Thanks for the information on Rachel Rees, was there no batism for Jeremiah
rees at Llandebie, although rees is a common name I thought Jeremiah was
going to make it easy, I,ll just have to hope he turns up one day Margaret
There are recipes for some of these in Favourite Welsh Recipes by Sheila
Howells. This is a little booklet published by Salmon and one of a
series that you often find on sale in souvenir shops and tourist
information centres. We also have a Pan book called a Taste of Wales in
Food and in Pictures by Theodora Fitzgibbon. This was published in the
early 70s so may be out of print now.
Ron
Sandie Reed wrote:
> Liz,
> Unlike the blessed post-cheat Delia's board, the Carmarthen board will
> never vent wrath on people - after all, they put up with me! Here's my
> anorak guide to the puds of Wales. Flummery originated in Wales, this being
> a corruption of the Welsh word llymru. Lloyd George was rather partial to it
> and look what it did for his reputation.There are also lovely fruit
> turnovers, particularly gooseberry, cooked on the planc (bakestone/griddle),
> Snowdonia pudding, apple pudding, dowset, Monmouth pudding (old bits of this
> and that turned into food of the gods), Sunday rice pudding, whinberry and
> apple thingies, Radnorshire violet pudding, Gower whipod, Patagpnian cream
> tart.....no good for the figure. Do you think I should write to Angela
> Hartnett and put her right?
> I got taken to my GGG Grandparents' (Williams side)
> former farm last summer. Apparently every autumn before the big fire is lit
> there is a wonderful smell of bacon that wafts down the chimney. Must be the
> first case of ghostly food. Our lot evidently don't come and haunt you, they
> just tantalise you with meals gone by. Bet the local sin eaters were well
> fed there!
> Sandie
> (Simpson, Rees, Williams, Richards, Hughes)
>
>
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> [mailto:carmarthenshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Liz Rees
> Sent: 14 April 2008 19:02
> To: carmarthenshire(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CMN-L] bara brith
>
> Hello Lyn
> I had never come across bread pudding in Wales, but you can buy it in
> shops in the West Midlands.
> The blessed Delia (pre-cheat!) has a recipe at
> http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/spiced-bread-pudding-with-brandy-cream,15
> 89,RC.html
> that sounds and looks right, although I haven't tried it.
>
> At risk of bringing down the wrath of the list, I can't personally think
> of any specifically Welsh desserts, although there are of course lots of
> tea-breads and cakes.
>
> Best regards
> Liz
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Pauline,
I was mistaken about James Morgan Pugh's dates. He was born 21 May 1821 and
christened 10 June 1821 in Wesleyan Chapel in Llandybie.
Thanks again.
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In the parish records of Landybie, do you find a baptism o f James Morgan
Pugh, 1820-21, son of James Pugh and unknown. It said in his obituary in
Kansas that he was baptised in the Wesleyan Chapel in Landybie 21 March 1821. I
would like to find something about his parents.
THank you Pauline for looking this up.
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Hi Margaret
will see if I can find any baptisms......but in the meantime think this is
the marriage
1803 6th September Llanon parish church
Jeremiah Rees parish Llandybie and Anne Morgan of this parish....
Pauline
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From: <Griffiths621(a)aol.com>
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Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: [CMN-L] Llandebie arish records
> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone have Parish records for llandebie, in particular I am looking
> for parents of Jeremiah rees, born abt 1780, he married Anne??? in the
> early
> 1800,s He had children David born abt 1803, Wiliam born abt 1806, Mary
> born
> abt 1821, Philip born abt 1826, Elizabeth born abt 1829, Diana born abt
> 1832,
> these children were registered in Llangenych, can,t find any other
> children,
> but think there are possibly a few more jeremiah died age 75 at
> Marchologwyn
> Ucha, on the 20th April 1855, cause of death inflamation of lungs not
> certified, Any help gratefully appreciated.
>
> Thanks for the recipe for Bara Brith, I have been searching for years for
> a
> true Welsh recipe for this, thanks once again
>
> Margaret
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Hi All,
Does anyone have Parish records for llandebie, in particular I am looking
for parents of Jeremiah rees, born abt 1780, he married Anne??? in the early
1800,s He had children David born abt 1803, Wiliam born abt 1806, Mary born
abt 1821, Philip born abt 1826, Elizabeth born abt 1829, Diana born abt 1832,
these children were registered in Llangenych, can,t find any other children,
but think there are possibly a few more jeremiah died age 75 at Marchologwyn
Ucha, on the 20th April 1855, cause of death inflamation of lungs not
certified, Any help gratefully appreciated.
Thanks for the recipe for Bara Brith, I have been searching for years for a
true Welsh recipe for this, thanks once again
Margaret
Lyn,
Bread pudding is "Pwdin bara" in Welsh (the w looks offputting but is
just an "oo"sound). It is not a specifically Welsh dish but found in areas
where thrift was needed all over the UK. The odd traditional baker might
still sell it. Sent you the recipe off-board lest I be accused of going off
topic.
Regards
Sandie
Hi Sandie,
My Nan used to make what she called "Bread Pudding" and as kids we
absolutely loved it. None of the family seems to have retained the recipe,
so I wonder if you know it ??
I remember she used to soak bread in milk and then add mixed fruit and fat
and bake it. It would be a quite crusty on top and thick and stodgy inside
and taste very yummy. I'm sure not at all good if you are on a diet !!
If you can help it would be much appreciated - we have made something
similar but it isn't quite right.
Many thanks
Lyn Presland, Melbourne Australia
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From: "Sandie Reed" <sandiereed(a)tiscali.co.uk>
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Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 1:34 AM
Subject: [CMN-L] bara brith
> Bara brith the Williams way.
>
> 12fl. oz. strong cold tea
>
> 7oz.soft brown sugar
>
> 12oz. mixed dried fruit
>
> 10oz. plain flour
>
> 2 tsp of baking powder
>
> 1 egg
>
> I tsp freshly ground mixed spice
>
> It's dead simple. Soak the fruit and sugar in the tea overnight then stir
> in the flour, spice if used, B.P. and beaten egg. Divide into two 1 lb
> tins
> and bake on middle shelf at 180C/gas 4 for 40-45 mins or until the skewer
> test works. The time does depend on the depth of your tins. (mine are
> deeper than Cousin Anne's so I add 10 mins or so Now comes the really hard
> bit:. It tastes better after being kept a couple a days in an airtight
> tinwhen the top will have gone a bit sticky. You can brush the tops with
> runny honey while still warm if you like. Spread thickly with Welsh
> butter
> if your cholesterol can stand it! Keeps well.
>
> I have no clue about the cooking time for a monster one in a 2lb loaf tin.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Sandie
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Bara brith the Williams way.
12fl. oz. strong cold tea
7oz.soft brown sugar
12oz. mixed dried fruit
10oz. plain flour
2 tsp of baking powder
1 egg
I tsp freshly ground mixed spice
It's dead simple. Soak the fruit and sugar in the tea overnight then stir
in the flour, spice if used, B.P. and beaten egg. Divide into two 1 lb tins
and bake on middle shelf at 180C/gas 4 for 40-45 mins or until the skewer
test works. The time does depend on the depth of your tins. (mine are
deeper than Cousin Anne's so I add 10 mins or so Now comes the really hard
bit:. It tastes better after being kept a couple a days in an airtight
tinwhen the top will have gone a bit sticky. You can brush the tops with
runny honey while still warm if you like. Spread thickly with Welsh butter
if your cholesterol can stand it! Keeps well.
I have no clue about the cooking time for a monster one in a 2lb loaf tin.
Enjoy!
Sandie