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Could you fax it?
Jenni
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Millman [mailto:repmill@bigpond.net.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2005 10:41 AM
To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: RE: [Cmn-L] Payment for Birth Certificate
Pat
Site indicated that payment by credit card would be available from April
2003. Unable to find link so assume this has not reached fruition yet.
Looking for alternative to sending card details by snail mail.
Regards
Bob
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All aussie listers:
Has anyone purchased a birth certificate from Carmarthen Registrars Office?
I attempted to purchase a postal order from Australia Post and was told they
are only available in US$.
How have you made the payments to the Carmarthenshire County Council?
Regards
Bob Millman
Strathpine Qld
Researching the Garrety family of Middlesex, later of Abergwili, Carmarthenshire, Wales and their related families :
Eleanor Garrety (Will dated 17 May 1828 & proved 21 January 1836) - Her maiden name and husband's first name yet to be determined
Mother of : Commander James Henry Garrety, RN; born about 1775; died 22 July 1827, possibly in Carmarthenshire (As Lieutenant, James Henry Garrety, RN,
was wounded (lost an arm) and captured 16 July 1805 while in command of the Plumper gun-brig)
Eleanor Garrety, possibly born about 1774
James Henry Garrety married Anna Maria Gramshaw (born about 1779, daughter of Samuel & Ann (Jigon/Jegon/Jagon) Gramshaw) 29 Oct 1804 Dover, Kent
Children : Essex Eleanor Maria Garrety, born 5 Nov 1805
James Henry Garrety, born 14 Nov 1810
James Henry Garrety, born 14 Nov 1811
(The children's information is from the IGI - it is possible the "first" James Henry died before the "second" was born? However, the will of Eleanor Garrety, indicates there were three children of her late son & Anna Maria living - another possibility not yet found.)
A document signed in August 1827 indicates Anna Maria Gramshaw was residing in Abergwili, Carmarthenshire
Eleanor Garrety, daughter of the first Eleanor listed, married Henry Charles Baynes 1804, St. Marylebone, London, England
(Appears from the will information that they had no living children in 1828)
Essex Eleanor Maria Garrety married Edward Taylor Mister (born 6 May 1799 Shipston on Stour, Worcestershire) 01 Jun 1825 Llandewi Velfry, Pembrokeshire
Children : Wiliam Taylor Mister, born about 1827, possibly in France
Essex Mister, born about 1829, (From 1841 Abergwili Census)
Mary Mister, born about 1832 (Also From Above Census)
Sophia Mister, born about 1834 (Also From Above Census)
Edward Symes Mister, born 28 Jan 1839, Abergwili
Albert Charles Mister, born 14 Nov 1849, Abergwili
William Taylor Mister (my great-great grandfather) married Jane Mills James (daughter of Richard Holliday & Elizabeth (Mills) James) 23 Aug 1856 St. Peter's Parish Church, Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire
William Taylor & Jane Mills (James) Mister had 10 children in Wales before all immigrating to the United States in September 1873. They were found on the 1871 census residing at Llanllawddog, Carmarthenshire, on a 102 acre farm
A special interest in locating further information on James Henry Garrety's father's name and the other 5 children of Essex Eleanor Maria (Garrety) & Edward Taylor Mister (shown above).
Any information will be appreciated.
Kind regards,
Deb Jahn
WA State, USA
Bob, On the site I gave you , I have bought three certs w/credit card...twice successful,once a partial refund..Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Millman <repmill(a)bigpond.net.au>
Sent: Apr 19, 2005 7:41 PM
To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: RE: [Cmn-L] Payment for Birth Certificate
Pat
Site indicated that payment by credit card would be available from April
2003. Unable to find link so assume this has not reached fruition yet.
Looking for alternative to sending card details by snail mail.
Regards
Bob
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Bob,
The purchase is easy from the regiter's office if you have a credit card. And the reference District, book, and folio numbers. The credit card company will handle the currency exchange for you.
The email is<<<http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/app_select.asp
At least that worked from the USA........good luck...Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Millman <repmill(a)bigpond.net.au>
Sent: Apr 19, 2005 7:16 PM
To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cmn-L] Payment for Birth Certificate
All aussie listers:
Has anyone purchased a birth certificate from Carmarthen Registrars Office?
I attempted to purchase a postal order from Australia Post and was told they
are only available in US$.
How have you made the payments to the Carmarthenshire County Council?
Regards
Bob Millman
Strathpine Qld
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Hi Pauline and Peter
Capel Ifan Church, Pontyberem
Capel Ifan Church, which stands outside Pontyberem, reconrds the entry
recording the marriage or Arthur Mee, 27, Bachelor, Journalist, 8 Mina Street,
Llanelly, the son of George Samuel Mee, Journalist, and Claudia Thomas, 31,
Spinster, Pontyates, the daughter of David Thomas, Cooper, The marriage was
solemnized on 22nd September 1888 at the church of St. John, commonly known as Capel
Ifan, and was the first to take place there after the church was assigned to
the Parish of Holy Trinity, Felinfoel, following parish reorganisation.
Previously the church was in the Parish of Llanelly, as the entry in the register,
immediately before that of Mee's marriage, shows.
The old church of St. John (Capel Ifan) was licensed for marriages in 1837,
whereas the new church of St. John in the village of Pontyberem was formed in
1934 when the new ecclesiastical parish of Pontyberem was formed in 1934, the
vicar was directed by the Registrar General that in the future the old church
should be described as St. John(Capel Ifan), Pontyberem, and the new church as
St. John, Pontyberem, which thus became a parish church. The first marriage
in the old Capel Ifan Church after the formation of Pontyberem Parish took
place on 4th August 1934.
This was originally copied and pasted from an e-mail from CMN-L on 13
December 2001. The Subject was Capel Ifan/Arthur Mee's Marriage and it was sent to
the List by Richard James
For those who have never heard of him Arthur Mee wrote a series of books
under the title 'The King's England' that covered over 10,000 villages in England,
county by county during the 1930's. They are constantly being reprinted. He
also started the Children's Newspaper and published the Children's
Encyclopaedia as well as writing "The Children's Bible" and other books.
In the 'The History of the Gwendraeth Valley' by Ap Huw published in 1873
translated by Ivor Griffith is the following
Pontyberem - Religion in the village
There was not place of worship in the village before 1816. It appears that
it was the Methodists who first came to the district, and after preaching for
some years from house to house, the length and breadth of the neighbourhood,
they decided that there was a sermon to be delivered in Brandyway, a small farm
near the village. A pulpit had been raised here, and it was an excellent
place for worship. IN 1790, the brotherhood decided, through the exortation of
the Rev. Mr. Jones, Llangan, and others, to rebuild the old chapel callled Capel
Ifan (St. John's chapel at present), and they held services there until 1830.
During this period ,there was a disagreement amont the members, and the
complaint was taken to the Rev. E. Morris, Llanelli, and he sent officials to lock
the doors of the chapel, thus barring them from the place,. After this they
had no particular place to worship. In 1834 , they built Soar, the present
chapel, on Cilcarw land aboutr a quaarter of a mile from the village.
In 1813, the Wesleyans began to preach here. For two years they held
services in a house called Saint Domingo, and then raised a chapel on part of Trallwn
farm about a mile from the village. The Wesleyan cause died in the village
and the neighbourhood many years ago.
At times there were sermons by the Independents in a nearby farmhouse called
Cilcarw Uchaf, because an Independent preacher lived therre (from 1788 to
1833), named Evan Evans. In 1816, through a lot of effort, they built Caersalem.
In 1842, Mr David Gravell bought Cwmfelin, a nearby farm, and called it
Brandyway. Seeing that the Independents did not have a graveyard, he offered a
suitable and convenient place to build a new chapel along with an extensive place
for burials on the new farm. Tehey immediately sold the old chapel, and in
1843, they built Caersalem Newydd, the present chapel It is a beautiful
building, and it has a very large congregation.
After the disagreement of the Methodists, the Anglican church took possession
of Capel Ifan and it is now called St. John's, a chapel of ease under
Llanelli church. A fervent congregation gathers there, and the present priest is
Rev. R. Griffiths.
NB Do remember the above was written in 1873.
Bye for now
Joy
Hi Joy
Many thanks for the reply to my query.
I found the article by Richard James that you mentioned which contains
valuable information that I can follow up.
Regards
Peter
Hi Peter
I have family living at Capel Ifan Farm listed as being in the hamlet of Glyn
in the censuses of 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891 & 1901. All family baptisms,
marriages and burials during this time took place at Capel Ifan Church, Pontyberem
which is actually up a lane opposite the farm.
Richard James, sponsor of this list, wrote of the history of the two churches
in Pontyberem on 13 Dec 2001 in the CMN-L mailing list. If you cannot the
archive for this or Richard does not have a copy on his PC I will key it in for
you from a printed out copy that I have.
'Parish Registers of Wales' states the following
An ancient chapel in the parish of Llanelli apparently restored by the
Methodists for their own use in the eighteenth century, repossessed by the Church in
the 1830s. The new church consecrated in 1894.
Parish REgisters
Christenings 1839-1922 recorded in 1933 apparently lost. (I know, from having
seen them and having extracted my own family information from them, that they
are with the present incumbent in the Church safe )
Christenings 1922-1948; Marriages 1838-1971; Burials 1835-1932 all at
Carmarthen Record Office.
Bye for now
Joy
Thank you Helen - yes I found it in Borough - it is so exciting when you
make breakthroughs - I have received so much kindness and help from the
list.
Regards
Diana
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From: Gwen Cunningham <gwenny(a)snet.net>
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:33:44 -0400
To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L-request(a)rootsweb.com>
Subject: Raleigh/Raly/Rawleigh
Hello Listers,
Has anyone ever come across the above surnames in their searches in
Carmarthen? I have found the name in the Glamorgan parish of Margam but
their is no hint as to where Francis and Cecily Raleigh were from. They
appear in Margam with their first child being born in 1780.
My thanks to Allen Blethlyn for his information about the Francis line that
one of the daughters married into. I tried to thank him directly but it said
that his mail service had expired.
Does anyone have any ideas what migration patterns the Raleighs might have
followed that they ended up in Margam? I appreciate any guidance you can
give me.
Gwen Cunningham
CT
gwenny(a)snet.net
Hi
I'm not absolutely sure which hamlet it is I think its borough, capel als
chapel is at the bottom of the hill, Marble Hall Road is a steep hill and the
Hospital (old not new) was at the top of the Hill, its not there any longer its
been demolished and houses replace it. The road leading from Capel Als is
the start of the Wern.
Helen
Hello Helen - thank you for that. My relatives are William Morgan s/o
William Morgan and Elizabeth Williams d/o John Williams - any match?
Regards
Diana
Hi Taffy,
Have got this email from list. I too have a interest in the lead mines in that area. Viponds lived in the area from about 1750 to 1850 then seem to of emigrated to Coal in S Wales or gone to Ameria and Ausey will post this to list as this is only from my phone.
David Thomas
-----Original Message-----
From: Taffywilliam(a)aol.com
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:42:09
To:CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cmn-L] Leadmining and communications check.
Have received no replies to my last four or five requests. On 4-9-05
contacted. Mal. who had presented a dissertation on Coal mines of Wales. Inquiring
about lead mines in Rhandirmwyn where my ancestors worked. Today I note that
A.J. replied in detail to Mary Jane about the Nantymwn mine in Rhandirmyn, Are
any of my messages getting through? My E/Mail always indicates that message
has been sent/ .Is there some prescreening process which blocks messages
from being posted? Anybody in Wales do you read me. Thanks Bill.
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Hi ,Pat nice to hear from you againand thanks for info which I guessed was
the situation.
I have been off chasing my scottish ancients for some time interesting but
more difficult as I have only been to Scotland once last Christmas so not to
sure about background to places etc.
I am looking at the school side to try and fill in some details now .
Off to LLantrisant F/H Fair in a few minutes.
Cheers ,
Sue in LLantrisant.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Powell" <pat(a)pcubed.demon.co.uk>
To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] MORGANS+REDBERTH
> Hello Sue
>
> There is no housename against the family in the 1841 census - the 1841
> census information I gave you some time ago was the full detail.
>
> Reberth hamlet consisted of 24 houses according to the description in
> the 1841 census but none of them were given housenames.
>
> Re schools - it is difficult to answer the "within walking distance"
> query as my grandfather, for example, walked 5 miles to school every day
> in Pembrokeshire.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
>
>
> In message <004501c542c2$1d8f5af0$e5862b50@SUSAN>, Susan Harvey
> <pippyx(a)tiscali.co.uk> writes
>>Hi, Iam trying to find an address for the Morgans family in the 1841
>>census.
>>
>>Firstly were any indications of a place given or just the parish name
>>given?
>>
>>Lewis MORGAN(S)and his Wife Martha are in the parish in 1834 when Lewis
>>Morgans
>>was born .
>>
>>He was not the first child
>>I think Lewis and Martha were married in Redberth about 1821.
>>
>>I think Lewis was of Redberth and also his wife.
>>
>>Lewis became a Post Master by 1870.
>>Is there any information about schools within walking distance of Redberth
>>that
>>any of the children may have attended?
>>If any one can help with any information from the 1841 census I would be
>>really
>>grateful
>>Best wishes
>>Sue .
>>
>>
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