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Help required.
I don' know if anyone out there can help a, I am looking for a Ruth Davies from Ystradgynlais. In the 1851 census she is a house servant age 17. If anybody has access to the 1841 census I would be very grateful. The only record I can find is that she marries a Rees at some stage before marrying my ggarndfather, don't now where?? but in 1881 she is living in the Rhondda.
Thanks for any help.
Gwy Evans
Hi Oliver
I'll see what I can find for you - latest news from John Davies Archivist is
that it is now 10th September - they apparently sent the wrong floor
covering for the microfilm room............
John is off that week for annual holidays......Caroline is now staying, a
new archivist Terry has started there, he used to be a volunteer, so well
done to him........David still the same, but another addition is Ellen from
Canada - who came to visit and remained in Wales......now employed here
too.....
I am miles behind in my researches now, I have had to explain to people that
I just cannot carry on until this record office reopened......head to the
grindstone - Sarah back in school, so everything will be back to normal.
Hope all is well with you
Pauline
-----Original Message-----
From: oliver St John <oliver.stjohn(a)btinternet.com>
To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: 30 August 2001 18:51
Subject: [Cmn-L] Carmarthen Record Office
>Hi Pauline,
>I spoke to the Record Office this morning, who told me that they should be
>opening up on Monday Sep 3, which is excellent news. I have been following
>the news on the list, very interested in the scanning procedure, and all
the
>other activity. I am sure you will be going to the Record Office before
>long, and would be very glad of any help to solve two problems, from
>Laugharne parish.
>>From three independent sources, Gelly John married Dinah Hood Oct 2 1739,
>but the printed index in the Record Office shows him marrying Dinah Owen,
>though someone has crossed out Owen, in pencil, and put Hood.
>Secondly, the next Gelly John, shoemaker, widow, son of the first, married
>Rachel William on Jan 29 1788 - no argument here. As she was buried, aged
>65 on Mar 27 1828, she was born about 1762 or early 1763. I have a copy of
>their marriage register, which just says she is of the parish.
>I have been unable to trace the baptisms of either Dinah or Rachel, to find
>their parents. The Record Office kindly looked, and found neither in the
>indexes. They probably came from a nearby parish?
>If a good idea comes to you, I would be very grateful, to find two more gt
x
>N, grannies. We are just off to walk in the mountains in Austria, and I
look
>forward to a large pile of messages on our return. All the very best to you
>in your indefatigible efforts. Oliver.
>
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Hi
The date we have at present for the opening of the office is:
10th September........
I'll keep you posted if information differs from the above date
regards
Pauline James
Carmarthenshire FHS
Hi Pauline,
I spoke to the Record Office this morning, who told me that they should be
opening up on Monday Sep 3, which is excellent news. I have been following
the news on the list, very interested in the scanning procedure, and all the
other activity. I am sure you will be going to the Record Office before
long, and would be very glad of any help to solve two problems, from
Laugharne parish.
>From three independent sources, Gelly John married Dinah Hood Oct 2 1739,
but the printed index in the Record Office shows him marrying Dinah Owen,
though someone has crossed out Owen, in pencil, and put Hood.
Secondly, the next Gelly John, shoemaker, widow, son of the first, married
Rachel William on Jan 29 1788 - no argument here. As she was buried, aged
65 on Mar 27 1828, she was born about 1762 or early 1763. I have a copy of
their marriage register, which just says she is of the parish.
I have been unable to trace the baptisms of either Dinah or Rachel, to find
their parents. The Record Office kindly looked, and found neither in the
indexes. They probably came from a nearby parish?
If a good idea comes to you, I would be very grateful, to find two more gt x
N, grannies. We are just off to walk in the mountains in Austria, and I look
forward to a large pile of messages on our return. All the very best to you
in your indefatigible efforts. Oliver.
Hello Hilda
The descendants of William WILLIAMS still live at Pantycelyn, Pentre-ty-gwyn
near Llandovery.
My x times great grandfather worked/lived at the farm in 1841 when he was
married in the local chapel.
If you go to my website at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adrianp/
click on Parry in the table on the front page, then on Parry Generation 1 on
the next page, you will see a photograph of Pantycelyn.
Adrian
Yorkshire
----- Original Message -----
From: <HANSENAICHJAY(a)aol.com>
To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: 29 August 2001 15:05
Subject: [Cmn-L] Williams Lookup
> Hello,
>
> This is my first post to this list although I have been a subscriber for
some
> time and have followed the list with interest. It seems that there are a
lot
> of generous people doing lookups. Now it's my turn to ask a favour.
>
> William Williams, famous hymn writer and evangelist, is said to be an
> ancestor of my husband's family. He was born 1716, father John Williams,
born
> 1656, mother Dorothy Lewis, born 1659. William William had siblings. He
> married Mary Francis, born 1723. They had issue, Amelia, William, John,
Anne,
> Mary, Elizabeth, Maria, Sarah.
>
> Does anyone have any further information on this family, particularly the
> descendants of the issue of William Williams and Mary Francis.
>
> Grateful thanks,
>
> Hilda in Australia.
>
>
>
>
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Hello Pauline
Could you assist with the following
am trying to locate John and Margaret Morgan and family,beleive they were
at Halfen Fach in Llanarthney in 1851 and possibly earlier.
John I belive married Margaret Bowern on 4 April 1836 at Llannou,
John was born c1812. any information on him and his family would be welcome
if you can assist.
Also interested in a David Morgan born c1781 who married Mary Williams 17
April 1807 could be parents of John above again any information welcome.
regards
Peter Scott
Thanks for the reply, Alvar! Pauline, since I'm in the States, and unless I can find someone in the family who remembers ever hearing her say a name, I'm clueless on this. While in G.B. in June, I remember seeing castle ruins pop up in the seemingly most unlikely places, so I realize what a long shot this could be actually tying it in with them. Perhaps finding out who John Howells and/or Sophia Harries Howells parents' were would give a clue? And where can I find that information??? Sigh...and I haven't even started on David Lewis Davies (Rachel's in-laws and my other gr-grandparents yet!). Thanks again!!
Marilyn Davies Rumley
Original Message:
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From: Alvar Jones alvar.jones(a)scitekconsultants.co.uk
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:23:51 +0100
To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] re Harries
Hi Pauline
They could mean New Castle Emlyn?
Alvar
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames(a)btinternet.com>
To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] re Harries
> Can anyone think of a Castle where Rachel could have been brought up
around
> Conwil Elved.......
>
> Another idea about the name Harries Marilyn is that from time to time this
> name changes from Harry to Harris to Harries........it does get very
> confusing....
>
> Pauline
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marilyn Rumley <marumley(a)prodigy.net>
> To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Date: 29 August 2001 03:44
> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] re Harries
>
>
> > Hi, Judith! Glad for the replies rec'd already! There are two pieces
> of information I have to go on.
> >
> > 1. One is my gr-grandmother's obituary from the Lebo, Kansas (a Welsh
> settlement) newpaper of Sept. 26, 1935. It states, "Rachel
Howells-Davies,
> b. Conwil Elvet, Carmarthenshire, South Wales, March 28, 1845. Dtr. of
John
> Howells and Sophia Harri(s)-Howells. Rachel is the last of the family of
> eight children. She came to America (Arvonia, Kansas) in April, 1873 to
> join a sister (don't know her name) in America (before moving to the Lebo
> area)." A 3rd or 4th cousin reared in Lebo states that Rachel came into
the
> U.S. through Canada, not through Ellis Island, NY. for what that's worth?
> > 2. Secondly, on p. 133 of the Carms Marriages 1813-37 Index of the
> 2000 CD-Rom we have, it shows a John Howells ("Wid" under Notes) and a
> Sophia HARRIES, married in Conwil Elvet Parish on June 9, 1829 (I believe
> you put day/month, where we put month/day, is that correct? It reads
> 9/6/1829).
> > As I mentioned to Pauline in an earlier e-mail, two of my aunts, who
> are still living and in their 80's, have stated numerous times that they
> were always told that "Rachel was raised in a castle in Wales."
> Unfortunately, I currently have no other information about her siblings
> (names/sex) or any specific information on where they were reared.
> > Interestingly, the Obit also states that "Rachel was converted during
> the famous Welsh revival that went over Wales in 1859 and became a member
of
> the Congregational church in her home community." Any other pertinent
> information pre-America escapes me at this point. I believe the Harri(s)
in
> Rachel's mother's name is a typo in this little community paper
> >and that it quite possibly should be Harries as in the Marriage Index.
> Thoughts? Thanks much for any suggestions or information. Will cc the
List
> just in case anyone else notices anything.
> >
> >Marilyn Davies Rumley
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: "judith.george" <judith.george(a)ntlworld.com>
> >Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:10:11 +0100
> >To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
> >Subject: [Cmn-L] re Harries
> >
> >
> >> Hi Marilyn
> >> Noticed you have the surname Harries in your tree.
> >> I have Emily and David Harries G Grandparents,married in 1887 born in
> Carmarthen,who had eight children, lived at 16 Magazine Row.What are your
> connections? Let me know.
> >> Cheers
> >> Judith
> >> Barry Glamorgan
> >>
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Charlene,
Not sure if anyone else has answered your question but there is a Mwnt in
Cardiganshire, (English "mount")It is to the north west of Cardigan on the
coast and is on National Trust land. My wifes grandfather was born there.
Dyfed FHS has the MI's transcribed but not sure about the parish registers.
The church is beautiful, very small but in a wonderful setting. Worth a
visit.
Regards,
Dave
I found this little gem while researching a few years ago and thought
listers would find it worth reading
Bundaberg News Mail 1875
The Husbands Commandments
1 I am thy husband; thou shalt have no other husband but me, whom thou didst
vow to love, honour, and obey; for I have saved thee from old-maidism, and
rescued thee from the terror of single blessedness.
2 Thou shalt not look upon any other man to love or admire him, for I thy
husband am a jealous husband, who will visit the sins of the wife upon her
followers; therefore keep thou faithfully to thy marriage vow.
3 Thou shalt not backbite thy husband, nor speak lightly of him; neither
shalt thou expose his faults to thy neighbours, lest he should hear of it,
and punish thy perfidy by deprivation of sundry items, such as bonnets,
dresses, & etc.
4 Remember the seventh day to keep it free for all unnecessary labour, for
there are six days in which to do thy work. Thou shall have the house clean
and tidy by four o'clock on Saturday afternoon; and there shall be no
washing of children or baking after that hour. Thy shalt do thy marketing
alone, lest in the company of the other women thou buyest ribbons for
thyself, instead of cigars for thy husband.
5 Honour thy husband's father and mother, and let not thy thoughts wander
selfishly towards their cupboards and pockets whilst so doing.
6 Thou shalt not box thy children's ears, nor thump them for plundering the
sugar pot, or running away with the pastry or jam; for a hungry stomach
knows no law, save cut and run.
7 Thou shalt not listen to flattery; nor accept gifts or trinkets from any
man save thy husband, who esteemest woman's purity her greatest ornament.
8 Thou shall not rifle thy husband's pockets for money when he is asleep,
neither shalt thou read any letters thou mayest find therein; for it is his
business to look after his own affairs, and thy business to let his alone;
ask no questions, but believe.
9 Thou shalt conceal nothing from thy husband; always speak the truth, and
make no false representations of the state of thy pantry and purse, for thy
husband abhorreth petty larceny in the domestic apartments, which shall be
punished by closing the exchequer until such financial affairs are
abolished.
10 Look for no jewellery from thy business on the anniversary of thy
wedding, for it is written - "Blessed are they who expect nothing, for they
shall not be disappointed".
Hi Anna
Hopefully the Census information when completed will be available on CDROM,
but although we have permission from the PRO to reproduce the images for
research purposes [This means that the information must not be copied or
printed out by a third party].
If we wish to sell the information on CDROM we have to pay the PRO a
percentage of the cost, so obviously depending on this factor and how much
the PRO require will eventually decide the cost of a CDROM, if it is viable
[which I am sure it will be].
Another way of distributing the Census on CDROM would be to give it away
with membership, but then we would have to prevent any printing of the
product.
Although there are restrictions, I am sure we can come to some arrangement
with the PRO, and when we have sorted all this out we can eventually be sure
that the Census will be available on CDROM to all.
_________________________________________________
Regards
Richard James Carmarthenshire-L Carmarthenshire FHS
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----- Original Message -----
From: <AnnaDinahThomas(a)aol.com>
To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:32 AM
Subject: [Cmn-L] !851 Censuses onwards
> Richard,
>
> When these Censuses are on CD will they be available for purchase?
> Unfortunately I am a child of the generation which moved away from Wales
> after WW2, now living in North Yorkshire. Both sides of my father's
family
> originated in Carmarthenshire before migrating to the Rhondda and meeting
up
> there. I know that some information on CD is free to members of the
> Carmarthenshire FHS, which I will join later in the year.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Anna Thomas
>
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Hi Pauline and Marilyn
I don't want to sound flippant but had you given thought that the castle
might refer to a Castle Inn, Castle Cottage, Castle House, Castle Villa,
Castle Street, Castle Square, Castle Road or even a place name such as
Bishops Castle, Old Castle or even, stretching it a bit New Castle Emlyn as
it is shown in the 1881 Census on some occasions.
I have searched through Conwil Parish for the 1881 Census and see that there
are a number of Howells and Davies families. On one occasion a Davies and a
Howells appear to be farming two adjacent farms. These could be some of the
family left behind when others went to US. I have found one farm called
Baili and wonder if this is an interpretation of the English word bailey -
the external wall of a feudal castle or more widely, any circuit of walls
which surrounded the keep.
Also probably just a coincidence in a advanced search of Howells and Castle
in the 1881 Census the following turned up
Dwelling: Castle Ely
Census Place: Cyffic, Carmarthen, Wales
Source: FHL Film 1342302 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5404 Folio 46
Page 10
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
William HOWELLS M 42 M Cyffig, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Head
Occ: Farmer Of 446 Acres Employ 3 Laboures & 2 Boys
Rachael HOWELLS M 44 F Brecknock, Wales
Rel: Wife
Occ: Farmers Wife
Rachal W. HOWELLS U 17 F Brecknock, Wales
Rel: Daur
Occ: Farmers Daughter
Mary HOWELLS U 14 F Brecknock, Wales
Rel: Daur
Occ: Farmers Daughter
Catharine HOWELLS U 11 F Brecknock, Wales
Rel: Daur
Occ: Farmers Daughter
Margret HOWELLS 9 F Brecknock, Wales
Rel: Daur
Occ: Farmers Daughter
John Wm.G. HOWELLS 8 M Brecknock, Wales
Rel: Son
Occ: Farmers Son
Ann HOWELLS 6 F Brecknock, Wales
Rel: Daur
Occ: Farmers Daughter
William S. HOWELLS 2 M Brecknock, Wales
Rel: Son
Occ: Farmers Son
Martha E. HOWELLS 3 w F Brecknock, Wales
Rel: Daur
Occ: Farmers Daughter
Mary EDWARDS U 17 F Brecknock, Wales
Rel: Serv
Occ: General Servant Domestic
David DAVIES U 16 M Brecknock, Wales
Rel: Serv
Occ: General Farm Serv (Indoor)
John WILCOX U 21 M Brecknock, Wales
Rel: Serv
Occ: General Farm Serv (Indoor)
I know that Cynwyl Elfed is some way from Cyffig but they seem to have come a
long way from Breconshire as it is.
Bye for now
Joy
Hi Richard and Pauline
1861 and 1871 Census on CD. Sounds wonderful to me. It will be one less
Record Office in London to travel to on that dreadful Underground. So please
put my name down for those CDs when they are ready.
I like the sound of your scanner as I have lots of 35mm colour slides of
family locations taken way back when I first started my family history 27
years ago. Many of the cottages have been pulled down and gravestones
removed or lost and I would dearly love to include them in my write up. I
will be looking at the blackwidow website to see if it will solve my problem
too. Many thanks for your recommendation.
Bye for now
Joy
Hello Hilda
This man is very well documented in various books, I cannot find any extra
information on this man from what you have........
Lucky to have a famous ancestor named Williams......
You may find other people here with connections to this man??
regards Pauline James
-----Original Message-----
From: HANSENAICHJAY(a)aol.com <HANSENAICHJAY(a)aol.com>
To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: 29 August 2001 15:08
Subject: [Cmn-L] Williams Lookup
>Hello,
>
>This is my first post to this list although I have been a subscriber for
some
>time and have followed the list with interest. It seems that there are a
lot
>of generous people doing lookups. Now it's my turn to ask a favour.
>
>William Williams, famous hymn writer and evangelist, is said to be an
>ancestor of my husband's family. He was born 1716, father John Williams,
born
>1656, mother Dorothy Lewis, born 1659. William William had siblings. He
>married Mary Francis, born 1723. They had issue, Amelia, William, John,
Anne,
>Mary, Elizabeth, Maria, Sarah.
>
>Does anyone have any further information on this family, particularly the
>descendants of the issue of William Williams and Mary Francis.
>
>Grateful thanks,
>
>Hilda in Australia.
>
>
>
>
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Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database
>
>
Hi Art
The particular scanner I have will not take 16mm, which is almost as small
as microfiche which this scanner will not read.
It takes 35mm, 35mm slides and by removing the pieces that clip into the
sprockets of the 35mm film it runs more smoothly rather than opening the
gate each time you wish to move a film forward to backward.
_________________________________________________
Regards
Richard James Carmarthenshire-L Carmarthenshire FHS
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Art Smith" <10629(a)impulse.net>
To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Scanning
> Hi Richard,
>
> How did you adapt the scanner to take microfilm? Will it take both 16mm
and
> 35mm? Is an equivalent brand available in the U.S.? I have access to some
> Italian microfilms that I would like to scan, so I'm looking, but I need
> more information.
>
> Regards,
>
> Art
> #1095
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "CMN-L" <carmarthenshirefhs(a)btinternet.com>
> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Scanning
>
>
> > Hi Kevin
> > Apparently a lot of the 1861 Census is missing throughout the country,
So
> we
> > can only scan the pieces available, which is a shame but will be helpful
> > either way, maybe a better idea would be to do the 1871 census first?!
> > We purchased this scanner only last week and have been having some
> > incredible results. Another breakthrough in PC technology.
> > The scanner can cope with 35mm slides and filmstrips, but I have adapted
> it
> > to take microfilm.
> > You can find the site at:
> > http://www.blackwidow.co.uk/
> >
> > _________________________________________________
> > Regards
> > Richard James Carmarthenshire-L Carmarthenshire FHS
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Perkins" <gen_kev.perkins(a)ntlworld.com>
> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 6:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Scanning
> >
> >
> > > Marvelous stuff !
> > > this will really get us into the Nitty Gritty, does the scanner have
> an
> > > adapter for the film or is it a 'special'.
> > > As the 1861Census for St Clears was damaged by water, did any of
those
> > > Records survive ?
> > > Hope your weekend went well.
> > >
> > > regards, Kevin
> > >
> > >
> > > Kevin Perkins
> > > Bracknell, Berks
> > >
> > > Family History Page:
> http://www.kevperkins.freeuk.com/Family/default.html
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "CMN-L" <carmarthenshirefhs(a)btinternet.com>
> > > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 1:24 PM
> > > Subject: [Cmn-L] Scanning
> > >
> > >
> > > > We have purchased a new 35mm scanner, so from next week, hopefully
> when
> > > the
> > > > CRO reopens we will be able to start scanning the 1861
Carmarthenshire
> > > > Census.
> > > > As many of you know we are just about halfway with the
Carmarthenshire
> > > 1851
> > > > Census, which we are indexing, we are also still waiting for more
> > > microfilm
> > > > from the PRO for this census.
> > > > So what we are going to do with the 1861, 1871 and maybe the 1891
> Census
> > > > later, is scan the images and produce the images on CDROM, which can
> > then
> > > be
> > > > viewed by Parish and Street as enumerated as if one was reading it
on
> a
> > > > microfilm reader, but with the added bonus of being able to search
by
> > > street
> > > > name and/or parish, enumeration district etc, etc.
> > > > We aim to spend two days a week at the CRO scanning, so hopefully
the
> > 1861
> > > > Census will not take as long as the 185.
> > > > any response to this message would be welcome.
> > > > _________________________________________________
> > > > Regards
> > > > Richard James Carmarthenshire-L Carmarthenshire FHS
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Hi Pat
Thanks for the extra information - it saves me looking through past e-mails,
I have so many I cannot remember all.....I know now we both have Conwil
Davies.....
I cannot find this family in 1851 Conwil, with their popular names it is
hard to pinpoint them - I cannot find Mary Davies a widow that ties in with
the information, or the children at home, quite a few of the girls names are
servants, cannot find an Ann Davies or Hannah/Anna of the ages given with a
mother Mary, only servants living out.
Can you think of anything else that could pinpoint them?
speak soon Pauline
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From: Pat Coster <patc121(a)home.com>
To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: 29 August 2001 13:58
Subject: [Cmn-L] David B. Davies
>Pauline,
>
>Have you had any luck in finding the
>David Davies family?
>
>Mary Evans Davies 1805 wife
>Mary Davies Feb 1826
>John B. Davies April 3, 1831
>Thomas B. Davies June 1834
>David B. Davies 1836
>Ann Davies January 12, 1838
>Hannah Davies 1839
>Rachel Davies ?
>Elizabeth Davies Oldest 1824-1825
>
>Husband/father died in November 1842.
>
>Pat Coster
>
>
>
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Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database
>
>
Hi Maggie
Any idea which parish they were living in, what was his occupation, where
was he born?? It would help to look if they are in the census that I
already have....there are quite a few Thomas Phillips' in the database in
their 20's....
Pauline
-----Original Message-----
From: Margaret Brennan <M.M.Brennan(a)btinternet.com>
To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: 30 August 2001 00:03
Subject: [Cmn-L] LOOK UP
>Hi could some kind person do me a look up on the 1851 or 61 census, I am
looking for a Phillips family, a
>Thomas Phillips, aged around 26, and his wife Ann Phillips aged around 23,
>or the 1861. please
>thanks Maggie.
>
>
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>WALES GENEALOGY, The Easy Guide to Welsh Genealogy
>THE GENEALOGY SITE FOR THE WHOLE OF WELSH RESEARCH
>http://www.WalesGenealogy.co.uk
>
>
Thanks for sharing this with us - makes good reading...!!
Pauline
-----Original Message-----
From: Pennie Manderson <penman(a)maryboroughqld.com>
To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: 30 August 2001 03:25
Subject: [Cmn-L] A WOMEN'S LOT IN THE 19th CENTURY
>I found this little gem while researching a few years ago and thought
>listers would find it worth reading
>
>Bundaberg News Mail 1875
>
>The Husbands Commandments
>
>1 I am thy husband; thou shalt have no other husband but me, whom thou
didst
>vow to love, honour, and obey; for I have saved thee from old-maidism, and
>rescued thee from the terror of single blessedness.
>
>2 Thou shalt not look upon any other man to love or admire him, for I thy
>husband am a jealous husband, who will visit the sins of the wife upon her
>followers; therefore keep thou faithfully to thy marriage vow.
>
>3 Thou shalt not backbite thy husband, nor speak lightly of him; neither
>shalt thou expose his faults to thy neighbours, lest he should hear of it,
>and punish thy perfidy by deprivation of sundry items, such as bonnets,
>dresses, & etc.
>
>4 Remember the seventh day to keep it free for all unnecessary labour, for
>there are six days in which to do thy work. Thou shall have the house clean
>and tidy by four o'clock on Saturday afternoon; and there shall be no
>washing of children or baking after that hour. Thy shalt do thy marketing
>alone, lest in the company of the other women thou buyest ribbons for
>thyself, instead of cigars for thy husband.
>
>5 Honour thy husband's father and mother, and let not thy thoughts wander
>selfishly towards their cupboards and pockets whilst so doing.
>
>6 Thou shalt not box thy children's ears, nor thump them for plundering the
>sugar pot, or running away with the pastry or jam; for a hungry stomach
>knows no law, save cut and run.
>
>7 Thou shalt not listen to flattery; nor accept gifts or trinkets from any
>man save thy husband, who esteemest woman's purity her greatest ornament.
>
>8 Thou shall not rifle thy husband's pockets for money when he is asleep,
>neither shalt thou read any letters thou mayest find therein; for it is his
>business to look after his own affairs, and thy business to let his alone;
>ask no questions, but believe.
>
>9 Thou shalt conceal nothing from thy husband; always speak the truth, and
>make no false representations of the state of thy pantry and purse, for thy
>husband abhorreth petty larceny in the domestic apartments, which shall be
>punished by closing the exchequer until such financial affairs are
>abolished.
>
>10 Look for no jewellery from thy business on the anniversary of thy
>wedding, for it is written - "Blessed are they who expect nothing, for they
>shall not be disappointed".
>
>
>
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Richard,
When these Censuses are on CD will they be available for purchase?
Unfortunately I am a child of the generation which moved away from Wales
after WW2, now living in North Yorkshire. Both sides of my father's family
originated in Carmarthenshire before migrating to the Rhondda and meeting up
there. I know that some information on CD is free to members of the
Carmarthenshire FHS, which I will join later in the year.
Thank you.
Anna Thomas
I would appreciate if SKS could check out the details for the family of James STAN(N)AWAY [Engineer] and Elizabeth. He had a number of children baptised in Llangunnor between 1853 and 9 Jun 1862.
Many thanks greatly appreciated
Ron Palmer
Hi could some kind person do me a look up on the 1851 or 61 census, I am looking for a Phillips family, a
Thomas Phillips, aged around 26, and his wife Ann Phillips aged around 23,
or the 1861. please
thanks Maggie.