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----- Original Message -----
From: "Edwin J Bassler" <edwin.bassler(a)gte.net>
To: <GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday 01 2001 10:44 AM
Subject: Jenkins
> Information concerning the Tynewydd Colliery Disaster (1877) provided by
www.maerdy.org/gallery/arch60.html identifies George Jenkins and David
Jenkins as being among five survivors who were trapped for nine days.
>
> Is anyone researching these Jenkins ?
>
> I'm looking for a possible connection to my great-grandmother, Elenor
Jenkins James, who was in Tynewydd before immigrating to the U. S. in 1872.
Her father was David Jenkins.
>
> Thanks for any help!
>
> Ed
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gareth" <W/gen(a)johngareth.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday 01 2001 8:01 AM
Subject: Not everyone knows this..
> Couldn't let this snippet go by unrecorded even though I am really "doing"
> the Swansea area iron smelting subject.
>
> Merthyr Tydfil
> #########
> "One of the most interesting places in the United Kingdom"
>
> The contrast between the poverty of iron smelting in the west [ of south
> Wales], compared with its prosperity further east, can best be realised
from
> the description of a visit to Merthyr Tydfil c1780 by a Swedish
> metallurgist [P Mantoux].
>
> " Some twenty years ago, i.e. c1780, it was but an insignificant village,
> but the works now established there have in a few years made it one of the
> most interesting places of the United Kingdom "
>
> There, on a length of half a Swedish mile, in the narrow Taff Valley, he
> counted thirteen blast furnaces , each capable of producing an average 40
> tons of pig-iron a week.
> In the Pen-y-darran works alone, he was shown 3 blast furnaces, 3 refining
> furnaces, and 25 puddling furnaces. The mechanical equipment was most
> impressive.
> At Cyfarthfa, the water-wheel which worked the forge bellows was 52 ft in
> diameter. There were steam engines everywhere, 70-80 h.p engines.
> The factories seemed like towns filled with hurrying peoples ; one, with
its
> dependent mines, employing 900 workmen.
> The owner, Samuel Homfray, was said to employ in his various works about
> 4,000 men.
>
> [Based on The Economic Development of Swansea and of the Swansea District
> to 1921. By D Trevor Williams. University College of Swansea Pamphlet 4.
> 1940. Gareth 27 Jan 2001 G]
> #########
>
> Gareth
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy Cruse" <ncruse(a)nemonet.com>
To: <GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday 01 2001 1:26 PM
Subject: Thought you would like to know
> January 20th a statement by the director of the Family and Church History
Department of the LDS Church, Richard E. Truley, says:
> "Beginning in February 2001, a massive new stream of uploads to the
internet site will bring the total of online names to 1 billion, expected by
the end of the year. Included in these uploads will be 2.2 million records
of middle America-Mexico, the Sweden records of the Scandinavian Vital
Records Index with 1.1 million names, the Social Security Death Index with
64 million names and most significantly, and update of the Church's IGI,
with and addition of 125 million names. Vital records from other areas will
follow.
> Uploads such as these will be ongoing throughout the year, and patrons
should check frequently to see if information they need has been added
recently."
>
> Other facts that were mentioned - the FHL has more than 2.16 million rolls
of film, 173,795 sets of fiche, 288,000 books, 14,000 serials and 8,000
maps. the Church has 300 cameras in nearly 50 countries capturing 75 to 80
million images a year. There are more than 3,500 FHL in 75 countries that
order 70,000 rolls of film a monthe. the churhc is adding some 200 FHL per
year.
>
>
> So.....if you see someone from the LDS Church with a camera and wants to
photocoopy records in your area, encourage the church, city office or
cemetery to allow the recording. It helps everyone.
>
> Nancy
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pam Thornbury" <pthorn(a)ihug.co.nz>
To: <GLAMORGAN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday 01 2001 12:48 PM
Subject: Women in the Pits
> This site was found while browsing. Includes details of women killed
1851-1914
> in Welsh pits.
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~clinks/PBL/pblwls.htm
>
> Pam
> in New Zealand
>
>
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> Librarian: Sian WILLIAMS miners(a)swansea.ac.uk
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>
>
Hi
I have a Sarah Anne Williams late Lloyd formerly Weaver on a marriage
cerificate for my Gt Gt Granfather Edward Williams of 1878.
She was the widow of a William Lloyd and her maiden name was Weaver
Cheers
Phil
Reading
----- Original Message -----
From: <Hhill14257(a)aol.com>
To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 8:13 PM
Subject: [Cmn-L] Re: Wording on certificates
> Hello Pauline and all,
>
> I have a query about the word 'formerly'. On all my birth certificates
(19th
> century) the mother's maiden name is preceded by the word 'formerly' and
in
> each case I can vouch that it does indeed refer to her maiden name.
However,
> I have been in touch with a fellow Hughes researcher and we wondered what
it
> would say if the mother had had a previous name ie if she had been widowed
or
> divorced and had remarried?
>
> Any offers?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Heather
> 1074
>
>
> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ====
> Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot
find - Contact - PeterWihl(a)compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the
Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database
>
>
Mary Jones, late Smith formerly Roberts
Antony
B D & M Certificates: Pay with a non Sterling Cheque or by Credit Card and
get them direct from the local office of the Superintendent Registrar. See
my low tech web page for details. www.certificates.fsnet.co.uk/certific.htm
or e mail me at antonylambert(a)certificates.fsnet.co.uk
----- Original Message -----
From: <Hhill14257(a)aol.com>
To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 8:13 PM
Subject: [Cmn-L] Re: Wording on certificates
> Hello Pauline and all,
>
> I have a query about the word 'formerly'. On all my birth certificates
(19th
> century) the mother's maiden name is preceded by the word 'formerly' and
in
> each case I can vouch that it does indeed refer to her maiden name.
However,
> I have been in touch with a fellow Hughes researcher and we wondered what
it
> would say if the mother had had a previous name ie if she had been widowed
or
> divorced and had remarried?
>
> Any offers?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Heather
> 1074
>
>
> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ====
> Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot
find - Contact - PeterWihl(a)compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the
Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database
>
>
Hello Pauline and all,
I have a query about the word 'formerly'. On all my birth certificates (19th
century) the mother's maiden name is preceded by the word 'formerly' and in
each case I can vouch that it does indeed refer to her maiden name. However,
I have been in touch with a fellow Hughes researcher and we wondered what it
would say if the mother had had a previous name ie if she had been widowed or
divorced and had remarried?
Any offers?
Many thanks
Heather
1074
If I may, or even if I may not I, horn in on the argument between Mr. Phillips and Mr. Martin about Mr. Phillips sending his children to a Welsh Medium School (We Yanks are good are butting in, The Marne, Omaha Beach, Bastogne, Guadalcanal, Okinawa etc.).
Mr. Phillips GOOD FOR YOU! If it weren't for churches and other private initiatives you'd both be SAESON and neither of you would know what that is.
Where Mr. Phillips chose to educate his children is nobody's business, including mine!
Grandson of a coal miner, son of a machinist, aspiring to "upper class" status, whatever that means, in Mt. Top, Pa.
Joseph Gregory
Hello Pat, Firstly, thanks very much for your searches 1851
census.Presently,trying to obtain birth certificate c.1846 for Thomas James
Nicholas which should help greatly with both parents names and an address.
I'm expecting it to be in Pembroke and I will, of course, relay to you and
request your further help, please.
Your 1881 suggestion was sensible (why didn't I think of that) and only one
'Farmer' named James Nicholas but with the Census Place reading ' Kilrhedyn,
Cardigan' (the dwelling 'Blaensulgen'). However, all the seven children's
birthplaces read 'Kilrhedyn, Carmarthen.'
Unable find Kilrhedyn in any place name or parish index for Wales for
determining the correct county. Do you know of such a place and of any
contact for finding equivalent entry in the 1851 census?
Details 1881 Census : James Nicholas - Farmer of 300 acres age 58 born
Trelech,Carmarthen
Mary wife 49 born
Llanfyrnach,Pembroke
Sarah dau 24 born Kilrhedyn,
Carmarthen
Tommy son 22 born Kilrhedyn,
Carmarthen
Also, five other younger children.
Incidentally, there are two 1881 ' AGLABS' named James Nicholas: one in
Pembroke - Haycastle and one Carmarthen - Llandingat.
Kind regards.
Kenneth
Hello Everyone
Just to let you know that from February 7th Carmarthenshire Family History
Society are opening a Family History Shop at:
6 Castle Buildings
Murray Street
Llanelli
Carms.
More information available on the web pages at :-
http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk
The premises are situated at the junction of Station Road with Murray Street,
and is above 'La Caprice' Wine bar and Restaurant -so ideally situated for
lunch, and close to the multi storey car park.
Pauline James Carmarthenshire FHS
HI Thomas
Have I given you the Malyn information from the Abergwilli registers that I
have, not for your Malyn, but possible a brother?? If not let me know and I
will give them to you.
There are no baptisms for a Harriet Evans in the Abergwilli baptism
registers, they must have been non-conformists or did not register the
baptism.
I do not have access to Abergwilli census 1841 or 1851 these are located in
Carmarthen record offices, I do hope to have 1851 on microfilm in the next
month or two.......I have not bought this one yet.
Do you want me to look elsewhere - remind me what information was given on
their marriage - did you purchase this certificate to give you the father's
names??
Pauline
Hi Karen
This I believe to be a marriage bond - I wrote an article on this last week
after receiving this e-mail to explain in to you - did you read this e-mail??
A marriage bond was taken out for the more affluent people of the parish - as
you can see a sum of money was spent......
What you can do now is find the people mentioned in the parish registers of
Llandefeilog - you have the approximate age, and the names of each one.
There is no other way of locating people except from these registers, once
you have fathers name, sometimes the mother was mentioned if the vicar
bothered to include it. It may give abode etc., so these will have to be
viewed.
Do you have access to a Family History Centre, if so you can order in the
parish registers and view them.
The parish registers for Llandefeilog are on the IGI for the years 1735-1862
for christenings - have you looked on the IGI - this is now on line if you
want to view yourself - see if they are mentioned - but always refer to the
original parish registers if you find them.
Let me know if you find them.....
regards
Pauline
Hi Barrie
Thanks for sharing that information with us - was the lighthouse keeper on
the lighthouse at the time of the census??
The lighthouse came under Llanelli Harbour Trust - they do not have much
information on the lighthouse at all.....I did not know until a couple of
years ago that William Thomas was a lighthouse keeper - in 1881 he was still
at sea, he was a mariner - I have him mentioned as a lighthousekeeper in the
1897 Llanelly Directory and on his obituary in 1913 - although when his son
(my grandfather Dai Harvey Thomas) married my grandmother, he gave his
occupation as labourer under Harbour Commission, at this time he was living
in 7 Bryn Road Llanelli.
As you know we have a picture of my great grandfather on our web page taken
on the lighthouse with Lady Stepney, another lighthouse keeper and 2 boatmen
(he is the one of the far right holding up some fish)......there is no record
of this photograph anywhere - I cannot find reference in the library or
anywhere else - this came from a family photograph collection. I still find
it fascinating how both men had contact with the Stepney's - because my
grandfather was a boatman for Marged Fach Stepney, the daughter of Lady
Stepney.
If you do happen to come across any more information I'd be glad to hear it.
speak soon
Pauline
Hello Irene
Welcome back to Wales - I am so pleased that you enjoyed your visit with
Joanne and family, and that it was so sad to leave them.
We are moving our office to Llanelli next week which will be open to the
public, it will be much easier for members to have someone to talk to, to
help with research and where to find information etc.
Is it for a certificate you require Laugharne Registration district? - if so
the information will be in Carmarthen Record office - for certificates etc.,
there are only two to obtain certificates from - and that is either
Carmarthen or Llanelli.
Let me know what you want from Laugharne - I have some information on it, and
Meryl a member has got lots of information on this parish if you want some
assistance -
Membership is due by 1st March 2001 - this year members receive a CD which is
full of information - so it will be easier to access than the downloads that
members had last year.
Hope you will be able to call into Llanelli and visit us.......
bye for now - hope you are 'okay' now
Pauline
Hi Pauline,
Found some more military personnel via Mathew
Rose,Angle,Pembroke. He was the Head Gunner RA. Found one soldier at
Blockhouse Fort,Dale. Wm Chartres a soldier bombardier.
Barrie
#2032
For the young lady in Connecticut seeking the Mathew, Catherine Edwards Jones and family:
If you know to which county in Penna. they came, you can first say a little prayer in hope that Mathew applied for U.S citizenship. IF, IF he did, (my gt. grandfather Evans didn't!) the application will tell the exact date on which he and his family arrived in the U.S, and the port at which they arrived. This will eliminate searches for them in U.K. censi AFTER they'd left for the U.S. From there you can go to the Immigration and Naturalization photostats in D.C and other offices and look through the manifests for ships arriving at that port from likely ports such as Liverpool, Southampton and Queenstown in Ireland, ruling out ships arriving from Rio, Havana, Morocco etc., on that day and have a good chance of finding them, especially if it was NOT New York.
But if Mathew did not apply for citizenship your next best bet is the census of 1900, 1910 and 1920 but you'll have to know the name of the town where they lived.
Since almost everyone in the Carmarthenshire FHS has a Jones in their family tree (we have Joneses and JOHNS who hadn't yet become "Jones") may I say, "Congratulations, on finding YOUR Joneses".
Good luck.
Jos. Gregory
Mt. Top, Pa
Hi all,
As I need to keep the level of email down a bit, and as no one else appears
to be connected to my Phillips family of Laugharne (James Phillips & Anne
Stephens m 1822 - daughter Elizabeth bap ?) I'm going to unsubscribe for a
while.
More fruitful sources in Oxfordshire & Northants require my closer attention.
If anyone has any interest in this Phillips family, or has a transcript of
the Laugharne PRs I'd love to hear from them.
Also many thank to Tots, Richard & Pauline for all the 'General Knowledge'
stuff they've posted over the last few months - very interesting.
All the best for now -
I'll be back!
Dave Rossiter
Hi Pat,
Just adding one little smidgeon of info that I have, which pretty well
wraps it up. I believe my grandfather's oldest brother, William Rees, died
on July 18, 1916, a member of the 1st Welsh Regiment and is buried at the
Box Cemetery, number II.12.28. I think this is he.
Tchau,
Dilys
Hi Pat,
Thanks for answering!
>As you know the bride's surname in both cases I assume you have more
>info that just from the 1881 census.
I have both my grandparents birth certificates and their marriage
certificate. That's where I got my great-grandparents last names. My
grandparents were: Gomer Rees and Susannah Hopkins. They married at Soar
Chapel on Dec. 8, 1906.
>Is your estimate of marriage date from the children's ages (not always
>reliable) or from elsewhere?
I guessed from children as both had quite a few, each one more or less 2
years apart.
>I would normally say you first need to be sure of the marriage place as
>with most names in Wales there are too many possibles without other
>confirming data.
Marriage place is a guess too.
>Are the occupations taken from a census - or known from else where?
They're taken from the census and from the certificates I have.
>I'm hoping to go to the local library sometime this week and have have a
>little look for you - so to help me can you tell me which of the
>following from the 1881 census match your two couples (and if possible
>why)
These are my great-grandparents. I know this because of the sister Sophia.
(My grandmother was the youngest child, Susannah and I know for sure she
had an older sister Sophia.). Also on my grandmother's birth certificate
(Aug 24, 1888) the address is given as 19 Wern Rd. I don't have the 1891
census for them.
>
> Dwelling: Wern Road
> Census Place: Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> Source: FHL Film 1342295 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5374 Folio
>152 Page 8
> Marr Age Sex Birthplace
>William HOPKINS M 34 M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> Rel: Head
> Occ: Mason
>Anne HOPKINS M 34 F Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> Rel: Wife
>Lizzie HOPKINS 10 F Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> Rel: Daur
> Occ: Scholar
>John HOPKINS 7 M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> Rel: Son
> Occ: Scholar
>Sophia HOPKINS 4 F Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> Rel: Daur
>Mary L. HOPKINS 1 m F Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> Rel: Daur
I assume these are my grandparents because of his occupation and because in
the 1891 census my grandad - Gomer Rees appears in this same family having
been born in 1884 having the right age at the time of the census. Also, in
the 1891 a sister Gladys appears and I know my grandad had a sister with
this name. At the time of my grandad's birth the address is Pleasant place.
In the 1891 census it's Roberts Row.
> Dwelling: 1 Columbia St
> Census Place: Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> Source: FHL Film 1342295 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5373 Folio
>102 Page 20
> Marr Age Sex Birthplace
>William REES M 20 M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> Rel: Head
> Occ: Laborer Tin Mills (TPW)
>Esther REES M 20 F Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> Rel: Wife
>Elizabeth A. REES 6 m F Llanelly, Carmarthen,
>Wales
> Rel: Daur
>
Thanks a lot.
Dilys
Goiânia - Brazil
>In message <3.0.32.20010127102506.007a4e70(a)pop.netgo.com.br>, Dilys Rees
><dilys(a)netgo.com.br> writes
>>Hi,
>>What is St. Catherine House? I still don't know. Is it the same as GRO?
>>I find it hard enough trying to keep up with the bureaucratic offices and
>>whatnot where I live, so I'm not good at remembering things somewhere else.
>>
>>What I have is hardly anything.
>>Name of groom: William Rees
>>Occupation: Tinworker
>>Bride: Esther Griffiths
>>Place: Llanelly (y or i? Can never remember.)
>>Approximate date of marriage: 1880
>>
>>Name of groom: William Hopkins
>>Occ: mason
>>Bride: Ann James
>>Place: Llanelly
>>Approximate date of marriage: 1870
>>
>>If it's not feasible to ask for a marriage certificate from GRO, what do I
>>do to progress without traveling to Wales? Am I at a standstill?
>>
>>Tchau,
>>Dilys #2020
>>Goiânia - Brazil
>>
>>At 08:17 27/01/2001 -0000, you wrote:
>>>Hi Dilys
>>>
>>>Have you seen past messages about the GRO certificates - looks like they
are
>>>very strict in what they look for.
>>>
>>>If you know where the people were from and approximately what year they
>>>married - five year span, and you have quite a bit of information on the
>>>groom or bride, you could write to the local registry office in the county
>>>where the marriage would have taken place.
>>>
>>>Give me the information that you have and I'll give you a good idea if they
>>>will be able to find it - or you could look in St Catherine's House
>>>Indexes.....
>>>
>>>let me know
>>>Pauline
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Dilys Rees <dilys(a)netgo.com.br>
>>>To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>Date: 26 January 2001 13:40
>>>Subject: [Cmn-L] Marriage certificates
>>>
>>>
>>>Hello,
>>>I've asked this question before but I don't remember if I got an answer.
>>>If one doesn't know the date of a marriage does one just approximate when
>>>asking for the marriage certificate? When I say I don't know the date, I
>>>mean I don't know the year either.
>>>
>>>Dilys Rees #2020
>>>Goiânia - Brazil
>>>
>>>
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>>>GRO Index Searches; goto http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk
>>>for further information
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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House etc
>>etc - He will search the Database
>>
>
>--
>Pat Powell
>
>
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>
Hello Pauline, Thanks for your re-assuring note. It is really a worry not
knowing if emails are getting through.
I hope Pat can help further : I'm very impressed with the quality and range
of knowledge that you two are providing to the list.
Regarding marriage licences, I tried the site of the NLW and they have the
very oldest bonds but nothing specific for dates such as 1876.
Regards
Kenneth
Hi Pat,
Thanks for answering!
>As you know the bride's surname in both cases I assume you have more
>info that just from the 1881 census.
I have both my grandparents birth certificates and their marriage
certificate. That's where I got my great-grandparents last names. My
grandparents were: Gomer Rees and Susannah Hopkins. They married at Soar
Chapel on Dec. 8, 1906.
>Is your estimate of marriage date from the children's ages (not always
>reliable) or from elsewhere?
I guessed from children as both had quite a few, each one more or less 2
years apart.
>I would normally say you first need to be sure of the marriage place as
>with most names in Wales there are too many possibles without other
>confirming data.
Marriage place is a guess too.
>Are the occupations taken from a census - or known from else where?
They're taken from the census and from the certificates I have.
>I'm hoping to go to the local library sometime this week and have have a
>little look for you - so to help me can you tell me which of the
>following from the 1881 census match your two couples (and if possible
>why)
These are my great-grandparents. I know this because of the sister Sophia.
(My grandmother was the youngest child, Susannah and I know for sure she
had an older sister Sophia.). Also on my grandmother's birth certificate
(Aug 24, 1888) the address is given as 19 Wern Rd. I don't have the 1891
census for them.
>
> Dwelling: Wern Road
> Census Place: Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> Source: FHL Film 1342295 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5374 Folio
>152 Page 8
> Marr Age Sex Birthplace
>William HOPKINS M 34 M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> Rel: Head
> Occ: Mason
>Anne HOPKINS M 34 F Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> Rel: Wife
>Lizzie HOPKINS 10 F Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> Rel: Daur
> Occ: Scholar
>John HOPKINS 7 M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> Rel: Son
> Occ: Scholar
>Sophia HOPKINS 4 F Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> Rel: Daur
>Mary L. HOPKINS 1 m F Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> Rel: Daur
I assume these are my grandparents because of his occupation and because in
the 1891 census my grandad - Gomer Rees appears in this same family having
been born in 1884 having the right age at the time of the census. Also, in
the 1891 a sister Gladys appears and I know my grandad had a sister with
this name. At the time of my grandad's birth the address is Pleasant place.
In the 1891 census it's Roberts Row.
> Dwelling: 1 Columbia St
> Census Place: Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> Source: FHL Film 1342295 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5373 Folio
>102 Page 20
> Marr Age Sex Birthplace
>William REES M 20 M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> Rel: Head
> Occ: Laborer Tin Mills (TPW)
>Esther REES M 20 F Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
> Rel: Wife
>Elizabeth A. REES 6 m F Llanelly, Carmarthen,
>Wales
> Rel: Daur
>
Thanks a lot.
Dilys
Goiânia - Brazil
>In message <3.0.32.20010127102506.007a4e70(a)pop.netgo.com.br>, Dilys Rees
><dilys(a)netgo.com.br> writes
>>Hi,
>>What is St. Catherine House? I still don't know. Is it the same as GRO?
>>I find it hard enough trying to keep up with the bureaucratic offices and
>>whatnot where I live, so I'm not good at remembering things somewhere else.
>>
>>What I have is hardly anything.
>>Name of groom: William Rees
>>Occupation: Tinworker
>>Bride: Esther Griffiths
>>Place: Llanelly (y or i? Can never remember.)
>>Approximate date of marriage: 1880
>>
>>Name of groom: William Hopkins
>>Occ: mason
>>Bride: Ann James
>>Place: Llanelly
>>Approximate date of marriage: 1870
>>
>>If it's not feasible to ask for a marriage certificate from GRO, what do I
>>do to progress without traveling to Wales? Am I at a standstill?
>>
>>Tchau,
>>Dilys #2020
>>Goiânia - Brazil
>>
>>At 08:17 27/01/2001 -0000, you wrote:
>>>Hi Dilys
>>>
>>>Have you seen past messages about the GRO certificates - looks like they
are
>>>very strict in what they look for.
>>>
>>>If you know where the people were from and approximately what year they
>>>married - five year span, and you have quite a bit of information on the
>>>groom or bride, you could write to the local registry office in the county
>>>where the marriage would have taken place.
>>>
>>>Give me the information that you have and I'll give you a good idea if they
>>>will be able to find it - or you could look in St Catherine's House
>>>Indexes.....
>>>
>>>let me know
>>>Pauline
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Dilys Rees <dilys(a)netgo.com.br>
>>>To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>Date: 26 January 2001 13:40
>>>Subject: [Cmn-L] Marriage certificates
>>>
>>>
>>>Hello,
>>>I've asked this question before but I don't remember if I got an answer.
>>>If one doesn't know the date of a marriage does one just approximate when
>>>asking for the marriage certificate? When I say I don't know the date, I
>>>mean I don't know the year either.
>>>
>>>Dilys Rees #2020
>>>Goiânia - Brazil
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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find -
>>Contact - PeterWihl(a)compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the Farm
House etc
>>etc - He will search the Database
>>
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