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Dear Pauline, I'm back again! Have been checking the 1881 census with the
hope that I would come across some births for HENRY and HANNAH PEREGRINE's
children after their marriage in St Ishamels Parish. in 1810 and before 1827
when I have the records of baptisms at Dowlais.
I have listed some possible ones from the census below. I do not know
whether you have these births indexed, but if so, at some time could you
possibly check these names to see who their parents were. That way I can
eliminate them or perhaps find some connections.
1881 census shows:
JAMES PEREGRINE : m 68 birthplace Llandillo Fawr, CMN born approx
1813
JAMES PEREGRINE; m 72 birthplace Llangendeirne, CMN "
" 1809
WILLIAM PERGRINE m 66 birthplace Llangendeirne, CMN " "
1815
JOHN PEREGRINE m 70 birthplace Llangendeirne, CMN "
" 1811
JOSEPH PEREGRINE m 71 birthplace Meline, PEM "
" 1810
THOMAS PEREGRINE m 55 birthplace Aberystwyth CDN " "
1826
JOHN PEREGRINE m 57 birthplace Llandilo CMN "
" 1824
SIMON PEREGRINE m 64 birthplace Cadoxton, GLAM "
" 1817
DAVID PEREGRINE m 56 birthplace Llandissilio PEM "
" 1825
THOMAS PEREGRINE m 54 birthplace Llanfer PEM "
" 1827
It's probably a long shot but it is hard to make progress at this stage.
Thanks once again. Best wishes, Helen
Hello Joe Gregory,
For your information 'Fossick' or fossicking seems to be of Australian
origin.
Definition...... to dig out crevices with pick and knife; to work over
waste heaps in the hope
of finding gold; to rummage about for pickings. Probably something
originating during the
Gold Rush period in this country. I like the sound of it, don't you?
Regards,
Kate Hands
Hi beth
Thanks for the info - people from abroad used to used Reusch - but didn't
they increase their prices too much???
Pauline
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From: Beth Phillips Brown <philipsbrown(a)earthlink.net>
To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: 30 August 2000 13:32
Subject: Re: Exchange Rates
>Dear Joe:
>
>I wouldn't bother with Philly banks for conversion. They do not have good
rates and are slow to boot. Have you tried Ruesch International? I know
that the National Welsh-American Foundation uses them and
>likes them very much. Sorry I don't have other info on this.
>
>Hwyl,
>Beth
>
>
>joseph gregory wrote:
>
>> I'll check with some of the larger local branches of Phladelphia and
Pittsburgh banks to see what they charge for conversion dollars to pounds.
Maybe Genfair is the "best" we can do. Joe Gregory
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Hi Carol
Fortunately for you there appears to be only one place in Wales which
matches your g-g-grandfather's place of residence. Unfortunately it is
North Wales.
It is Braich-du and it is in the parish of Llanderfel in the county of
Merioneth. The village of Llanderfel is 3 miles east of the town of
Bala. Braich-du itself is just off the Bala to Corwen road, about 3
miles from Corwen. Which list should Carol be looking at?
Gerry Lewis
Hello Gerry,
Don't even have to go back 50 years for your memories:-). We lived in a
typical terraced house in Sandy and didn't have a bathroom put in until I
was about 15 (1959!), an outside toilet and a bath in the zinc bath in front
of the fire on a Friday night- you were considered 'posh' if you had a
tabletop bath!. We didn't have a car either and didn't have holidays. Did
you use to go to Park Howard on Whit Sunday? My primary school was Pentip
and it had the most disgusting toilets ever, outside of course- a run across
the yard in the rain in winter.
And can anyone remember 'liberty bodices' to keep you warm in Winter, and
getting 'scarge' on the fronts of your thighs from walking home from school
in the wind and rain, Mam putting Vaseline on them when you got home to stop
them stinging- who calls them the good old days?!!
Angela in Cardiff
Hi Gerry, Tots and old llanellites(is that how one spells it)
Its not that long ago that I even remember looking at the Lliedi alonside Halfords in Vaughan street and being amazed at the rats running around in all the rubbish which had been thrown in the river.
Many Oldies from Llanelli seem to say the good old days, but I remember Llanelli as a very dirty old town, having to travel by bus from Pembrey going shopping with mother and sisters, passing the old steel works, tin works, the old town market with market stallholders selling live poultry, buy it, take home and kill it/Pluck it, cook it yourself.
Pauline's aunt died this year (90 years) she lived in High Street, Llanelly. she still only had an outside toilet, and one cold tap.
Regards
Richard James
Hi "Tots"
You wrote:
I am surprised writer says it is difficult to know what Llanelli
looked like in those days. The records are at Llanelli Library.
I still contend that it IS rather difficult to imagine what Llanelli was
like 150 years ago, even if one has access to the Llanelli Library - and
the vast majority of listers don't.
I wonder how many can imagine what life was like even 50 years ago in
Llanelly - living in a terraced house with no bathroom. The
WC/bog/john/pissplek was outside, with no lighting. No central heating.
The simple fun of switching the kitchen light off at night and switching
it back on again in order to catch the cockroaches. No television
(Wenvoe transmitter had not been built). About eight cinemas. Listening
to the Radio Rental choice of two programes. "Home" Service and the
"Light" programme. No supermarkets and no refrigerator or freezer, so
shopping was done on a daily basis. No electrical gadgets. Very few
people had cars - one walked or took a bus. 50 kids to a class at Park
Street Junior School. The illegal bookie in the garden of one of the
houses on the other side of James Street. No pubs open on Sundays - not
that that fact bothered me at the time! No superstores on the edge of
town. I could go on, but I won't.
Gerry Lewis
Dear Joe:
I wouldn't bother with Philly banks for conversion. They do not have good rates and are slow to boot. Have you tried Ruesch International? I know that the National Welsh-American Foundation uses them and
likes them very much. Sorry I don't have other info on this.
Hwyl,
Beth
joseph gregory wrote:
> I'll check with some of the larger local branches of Phladelphia and Pittsburgh banks to see what they charge for conversion dollars to pounds. Maybe Genfair is the "best" we can do. Joe Gregory
>
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Hi Gang,
Ruesch International just raised their rates to $15.00 per check!
Rich Thomas
Royal Oak, Michigan USA
Beth Phillips Brown wrote:
>
> Dear Joe:
>
> I wouldn't bother with Philly banks for conversion. They do not have good rates and are slow to boot. Have you tried Ruesch International? I know that the National Welsh-American Foundation uses them and
> likes them very much. Sorry I don't have other info on this.
>
> Hwyl,
> Beth
>
> joseph gregory wrote:
>
> > I'll check with some of the larger local branches of Phladelphia and Pittsburgh banks to see what they charge for conversion dollars to pounds. Maybe Genfair is the "best" we can do. Joe Gregory
> >
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I'll check with some of the larger local branches of Phladelphia and Pittsburgh banks to see what they charge for conversion dollars to pounds. Maybe Genfair is the "best" we can do. Joe Gregory
Hi Listers
I rcollect someone being interested in General Picton.
"Wellington's Welsh General - A Life of Sir Thomas Picton" by Robert
Havard is on the latest list I've received from Bibliophile Books
[www.bibliophilebooks.com] price 9 GB pounds [reduced from 18.95 GB
pounds] plus postage [varies, see website]
The resume reads -
"Described by Wellington as 'a rough and foul-mouthed devil as ever
lived', Thomas Picton was one of the most colourful characters of an age
that abounded in them'.......We follow his life from Port of Spain
[Trinidad, where he was appointed Governor] via Westminster [he was an
MP presumably] and Badajoz [Iberian Peninsular War], interweaving his
fascinating story with quotations and Picton's own correspondence. 279pp
with eight pages of plates, and maps."
Gerry Lewis
Hi every-one.
You can do better at ; this place who deals with all currencies and charges
$5 per check.
I nternational Currency Express Inc. E-MAIL. www.foreignmoney.com
toll free 888-278-6628
or 310-278-6628
fax 310-278-6410.
427 North Camden Drive Suite F.
Beverley Hills.
California 90210.
Mon; - Fri 9 a.m - 5 p.m Sat. 10 a.m - 2p.m, California time we are 8 hrs
behind you in England.
They have Foriegn currencies. Travellers Checkes. Drafts and Wires.there is a
place in Washington that used to be afilliated with them and are expensive
also , so only use the one in Beverley hills for your deals.
Sylvia
Hi Pauline
In the Computer Section of Family Tree Magazine, April 2000 the following
website was recommended http://www.nwi.co.uk.famhist/fhinfo.htm
It is very comprehensive but the information regarding prices, addresses,
reference material etc is very out of date. As this site is aimed at US
researchers it could be very unhelpful and misleading to anyone planning a
trip to the UK. I sent an e.mail to this effect to the address on the site
and received the following reply.
From: MAILER-DAEMON(a)mailgate.wales.com
To: Joycozens(a)aol.com
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mailgate.wales.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
<default(a)nwi.co.uk>:
This message is looping: it already has my Delivered-To line. (#5.4.6)
I thought your listers would like to be aware and therefore wary of the
errors on this site until someone decides to update it.
Bye for now
Joy
Hi,
Maybe using traveller's cheques might be a solution. American Express do
not charge for cashing their own TCs, but you have to pay to buy them.
You could open a UK account and transfer funds to cover the cost of your
cheque. They charge a flat rate of 10 pounds to transfer international
funds, no matter what the sum. We have had a UK account for many years, but
we do travel to the UK quite a lot.
If globalization continues at the rate it is going, we will soon be all
using the same currency. :-((
Kate
----- Original Message -----
From: "joseph gregory" <nandjgregory(a)mindspring.com>
To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 4:02 PM
Subject: Exchange fees.
> At your bank which charges that exorbitant exchange fee? Do the tellers
(hopefully not the customers) wear masks? If I remember correctly when we
exchanged our dollars Travelers Checks at the Lloyds Bank in Aberdare, they
didn't charge a fee,They looked up the exchange rate for that day and cashed
the check, with a little padding, just to be sure. I'm sure I'd have
remembered if they were deducting a big chunk from the transaction. If you
deal with small bank, say "Uncle Fred and Aunt Sadie's Bank and Double
Glazing Company" which in turn deals with a bigger bank, such as Lloyds or
Westminster, or whatever it is called these days, which actually deals in
currency exchanges, they are both going to profit.
> I'm quite sure that the banks here charge about 4% on a sale to a
business for credit card transactions but of course there are no currency
exchange headaches.
> Just trying to help.
> Pauline, you say you charge 1Lb. per cup to visitors? May I suppose that
is a Wedgewood cup. Quite a bargain! And how much for the tea?
>
Looking for a cheaper way
>
Joe Gregory
>
> ______________________________
Pauline and Richard,
I found a clue that a great-great-grandfather lived at Brauch Du around 1826 somewhere in South Wales. How can I find out how many places were named that and how to start eliminating them to find the right one (hopefully!)?
Carol Mills
Spring, TX
Member 2013
Dear Jane
I wonder if anyone can help me solve the following problem!
Despite many hours researching in the Archives Office at Carmarthen,
checking the parish records in Cilycwm Church, then looking through the
national records I cannot find any information as to where two of my great
grand-parents died, or where they were buried. The details I have are:-
Thomas Prichard, farmer, born 13 May 1855 at Glangwenlas (now called
Glangwenlais),
Cilycwm, Carmarthen, and his wife Mary Jones born 10 November 1854 from
Aberdar, Cayo. According to their M. certificate they were married 29
December 1876 in the parish church at Cayo, Llandovery, by vicar Charles
Chidlow. The Census shows them to be living at Glangwenlas in 1881.
However, by the turn of the century a family called Davies were living at
Glangwenlas, and Thomas and Mary Prichard and their children seem to have
left Cilycwm completely.
Can anyone help me find where they went?
David James . . . . . . .
Pauline.
Did you see the info i sent over regarding sterling money orders from
California, they only charge $5 for us to buy one, at 1 dollar and 50cents to
the pound average thats just a little over 3 pounds.
If you don't have it let me know and i will send it again, these people deal
with all currencies.
I know the banks are screwing the heck out of us, if i transfer funds from my
English account to U.S. my bank here charges me $10 handling fee, Lloyds have
already sent it in dollars, and it';s all electronic to my U.S account so who
is handling it. guess the computer has to earn it's living also :-)))))).
bye for now Sylvia
Gerry and Therese, thanks for the definition of FOSSICKING, my mind is
relieved, and for the location of Meidrim.
Joe Gregory
----- Original Message -----
From: Therese and Gerry Lewis <project(a)asterisk.co.uk>
To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Sarah Jones
> Hi Joe
>
> Meidrim is a parish and a village.
>
> Clungwyn appears to be a farm at SN 297 179 and is nearer to St Clears
> than Meidrim village. It's a mile or so north east of St Clears and a
> couple of hundred yards north of the railway line from Carmarthen to
> Whitland and points west.
>
> Gerry Lewis
>
>
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Jean Jones Kimble, from someone who has found and NOT found his immigrant forebearers, let me give you some advise based upon my failure and success.
The place to start is IF you can find the place where they settled and hopefully applied for US citizenship. If you can find that, it will tell you exactly where and when they entered the US. Without that info your task is almost completely hopeless. My Evans family legend says that they came over on a ship named the Baltic but despite the fact that there was such a ship, in fact there were three, and best guess is that they arrived here in 1882 or 1883, we scoured that ship's manifests for the whole year of 1882 (Baltic III shuttled back and forth between Liverpool and New York on a regular schedule) until we got dizzy from watching the film whiz by, we have been unable to find them among the passengers. All this fruitless searching is necessary because my gt. grandfather John Evans did NOT apply for citizenship so the legend is all we have to go on and it may not be true.
The Immigrant ships is a good place to look but it contains only a very small fraction of the ships that arrived here since 1607. Chances of finding your folk there is one in several million.
My English ancestors however did apply for citizenship so I knew precisely which day they arrived and at which port so I was able to find them with ease and in fact posted their manifests on Immigrant Ships (SS Scythia to Boston 1886 and The British King to Philadelphia 1887).
I hope this does not discourage your search. I'm still looking.
Jos. Gregory
Mt. Top, Pa.