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Barrie
In regards to Thomas Jones, #2 Lower Ann St., I may have missed it when I
checked the 1861 Llanelly census. I did find Ann Street schedule #10 on.
There were several Jones families living on Ann St in 1861. When I get a
chance I will look again for lower Ann St.
schedule #20 David Jones age 24, railway, dock & building contractor born
Carm. Carmarthen with wife Lousia age 21 born Glam. Margam, and daughter Mary
L. under 2mos born Llanelly.
Schedule #30 Rees Jones, age 27 Engine Fitter born Pem.
Elizabeth wife age 33 born Carm. Llanelly; son Elias? age 2, dau Elizabeth 10
months; and step-children, William Vaughn age 12 scholar; Margaret Vaughn age
10 scholar and Thomas Vaughn age 8 scholar.
Schedule #48 William Jones age 29, copper smelter born Carm. Kidwelly; wife
Jane age 30 born Llanelly; son John age 6 scholar; dau Elizabeth age 3 and
dau Mary age 1 all born Llanelly.
Regards,
Kay Schorah, USA
markay13(a)aol.com
Graham,
I came across two William Williams living side by side in the Borough of
Kidwelly.
Schedule #56, Pondre (unsure of the spelling)
William Williams age 34, mar, Railway Labourer, born Carm. Kidwelly
Mary, wife, age 37, born Carm. Llanonfulog??spelling
David, son, age 11, Railroad Labourer; Catherine, dau age 9; Ann, dau age 7;
John son, age 5; William son, age 2; all born Kidwelly.
Schedule #57, Pondre
William Williams, age 34, mar, Railway Labourer, born Carm. Kidwelly
Hannah, wife, age 34; David son age 12; Ann dau age 10; John son age 8; Mary
dau age 6; Thomas son age 4; Eliza dau age 2; William son age 1; all born
Carm. Kidwelly.
There was another William Williams age 74 with son Henry age 39 and grandson,
John Williams age 4, schedule #111 Lady or lavis Street with other Williams
grandchildren not noted.
I wrote the same age down for both, William Williams, unsure if this correct
now. If you think these are the families you are looking for. I will copy
the page next time and e-mail it to you.
Regards,
Kay Schorah, USA
markay13(a)aol.com
Thanks Gerald for the information, my G G Grandmother married David Isaacs and they had several children and settled in Porth. I don't know if I can find out whether she would have been a schoolteacher, and sadly my grandmother died a few years ago aged 90 before I could question her further but I will try to find out and also get my hands on the book. I am hoping this will further me with my research on the Smith family from Tenby and Llandovery as Maurice one of her grandsons married my grandmother who was Florence Smith before her Marriage. Her Grandfather was James Smith and spent most of his time in the Army. So you never know this may generate some interest and I will get past this brick wall I'm at!
Hi Pauline,
I hope you haven't forgotten about my great uncle's, William Bowen, baptism.
I know the you have had a problem with travel because of the gasoline prices.
He was born around 1843, allegedly in Llandarog, Carmarthen, but he may have
been baptised in Llanon parish.
Just keeping in touch.
Thanks,
Mary Beth
Member 2052
Hi Liz
Sorry to butt in, but on reading Gerald's message he was going to call into
W H Smith's to view the book - but we already possess this book - I did not
realise that until Richard told me, we've such a vast collection that I
don't realise all that we have.
It is called
'Cradled in Copper' The story of Copperworks infant/nursery school Llanelli
150 years 1847-1997
compiled and written by Isobel Sadler.
It gives names of present staff, and names and dates of the Headteachers
from 1860-to present date.
The ISBN Number is:
ISBN 0 906821 29 0
I can't recall seeing it in Smith's of late!! I am not sure of the price
Pauline
-----Original Message-----
From: Elizabeth Rees <ykk15(a)dial.pipex.com>
To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: 28 November 2000 18:13
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Re: Llanelly
>Hi Gerald
>I was interested in your mention of a book of Copperworks School, as I was
>there (no teacher called Furneau in my time, but perhaps you're talking way
>back, or, of course more recent!)
>Do you have details of the book?
>Best wishes
>Liz Rees
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "gerald thomas" <gerald.thomas(a)ukonline.co.uk>
>To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>Sent: 27 November 2000 06:38
>Subject: [Cmn-L] Re: Llanelly
>
>
>> Hi Gillian
>> Use this as a long shot, I believe that some time ago, in Llanelly
>> Copper works school that there was a teacher of that name or a variant.
>> Will check the book of the school at WH Smith soonest
>> Gerald
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gillian Black <Gill(a)uk99.fsnet.co.uk>
>> To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Date: 26 November 2000 19:12
>> Subject: [Cmn-L] surnames
>>
>>
>> >Is there anyone out there researching the name of Furneaux this was my
>> maternal Great Great Grandmothers maiden name. Any information on this
>would
>> be much appreciated
>> >gill(a)uk99.fsnet.co.uk
>> >
>> >
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>> find - Contact - PeterWihl(a)compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the
>> Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database
>> >
>> >
>>
>> ______________________________
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>
>
Hi Gerald
I was interested in your mention of a book of Copperworks School, as I was
there (no teacher called Furneau in my time, but perhaps you're talking way
back, or, of course more recent!)
Do you have details of the book?
Best wishes
Liz Rees
----- Original Message -----
From: "gerald thomas" <gerald.thomas(a)ukonline.co.uk>
To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: 27 November 2000 06:38
Subject: [Cmn-L] Re: Llanelly
> Hi Gillian
> Use this as a long shot, I believe that some time ago, in Llanelly
> Copper works school that there was a teacher of that name or a variant.
> Will check the book of the school at WH Smith soonest
> Gerald
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gillian Black <Gill(a)uk99.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Date: 26 November 2000 19:12
> Subject: [Cmn-L] surnames
>
>
> >Is there anyone out there researching the name of Furneaux this was my
> maternal Great Great Grandmothers maiden name. Any information on this
would
> be much appreciated
> >gill(a)uk99.fsnet.co.uk
> >
> >
> >==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ====
> >Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot
> find - Contact - PeterWihl(a)compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the
> Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database
> >
> >
>
> ______________________________
I picked up a couple of postings about the Barretts of Pendine. My
interest is in rather later Barretts who may be descendents. John
Barrett was born in about 1785 in Llangain and died in about 1849. He
was married 7 July 1808 in Laugharne to Rachel Rees. He inherited the
lease on Waincorgam Farm (Llangain) from his father Rees Barrett (d
1805), who in turn inherited it from his father another John (d 1802).
In 1841 John the younger was farming at a farm just to the north of what
is now the Whitland by-pass and Rachel was a widow by 1851).
John the younger had several daughters and one son Rees (1812-1878). By
his second marriage Rees had three children - Rees (b1871), Rachel and
Jenett. I don't know what happened to them after 1881.
I'm always interested in finding further links.
Christopher Richards
Hi there,
I suggest you put your Barrett query to Glam Listers. There is someone ther
who knows quite a bit about them - Paul, from Liverpool. I have a connection
with the name, but it's way back in Jamaica. There's a huge family tree of
Barratts, originating there, and leading to the Barretts of Wimpole St. Some
of them returned to Wales in the 1800's. There's also an American who has
set up a Barrett family association. I had his email address once, but
believe he changed it. Try to borrow - via interlibrary loan - the book, The
Barrett Family.
Cheers, Dilys, in Essex.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jabcouriers(a)aol.com>
To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Barrets of Pendine
> Hi PAULINE
> wHAT a great result thank you now Have to work out how my g g grandfather
was
> descended from the Barrets.
> When you replied to another of my quires you said my g g grandfather was
i
> fact a genealogist I wonder if anyone would know of any work he might have
> had published his name was William Gwene Stedman Thomas he to my knowledge
> last lived in a house called Belle View in Pensarn before that he lived in
a
> house called Pantygof an estate about ten miles due north of Carmarthen
Ialso
> believe at one time he owned a house called Loves Lodge somewhere in
> Carmarthen
> Thanks again for your help Robert
>
>
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>
>
Just a small abstract from Carmarthen Town - Llanelly was not mentioned in
this directory - it was still a very small town.
Carmarthen
Post Office, Spilman Street, Post Master John Matthews. Two mails to London
every night at 9 o'clock, and through Swansea, &c and the other through
Gloucester &c. To Milford and Ireland every morning at 4 o'clock. A horse
post to Cardigan Sunday, Tuesday Wednesday and Friday mornings at quarter
past 4, and returns the same evening.
***************
Pauline James
Carmarthenshire FHS
Greetings
I have seen references to this 'CD' which is to appear; what will it
contain, and who is producing it, please ?
intrigued
Dave Andrews ('Dyfed' 2238)
Thornbury Gloucs
Hi Dave
Carmarthenshire FHS have produced quite a few CD's over the past few months
to do with genealogy. Which one were you after in particular??
If you want to go to our web site to see what is on offer - go to:
http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.btinternet.co.uk
all that we have is mentioned here - if it is the Special Offer Books on CD
you are after this is on the first page - other CD's are under the heading of
CD's and E-books etc., etc.,
let me know if you find what you are looking for
regards
Pauline James
Carmarthenshire FHS
Hi PAULINE
wHAT a great result thank you now Have to work out how my g g grandfather was
descended from the Barrets.
When you replied to another of my quires you said my g g grandfather was i
fact a genealogist I wonder if anyone would know of any work he might have
had published his name was William Gwene Stedman Thomas he to my knowledge
last lived in a house called Belle View in Pensarn before that he lived in a
house called Pantygof an estate about ten miles due north of Carmarthen Ialso
believe at one time he owned a house called Loves Lodge somewhere in
Carmarthen
Thanks again for your help Robert
It's called "The World's Series". The original trophy was donated by a newspaper called The World.
For Football (the one with the oval ball . . . looks like a rugby ball) we have the Grey Cup in Canada.
In the US their biggest College Football game is the Rose Bowl on New Year's Day.
Just my 2 cents.
Nancy Frey
Blackstock, Ontario
Canada
nfrey(a)netrover.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "joseph gregory" <nandjgregory(a)mindspring.com>
To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] BC
> Pauline your note fired up the "Little (and few) gra/ey cells". How can a
> "BALL", rugby or American football have POINTS on it? By definition a "BALL"
> is a sphere and a sphere has no points. Thought I'd throw that in to KICK
> around?
> Secondly not only Americans, Central, South, and North, play Baseball, there
> are several Japanese players in the major leagues and I think a Korean
> player. The baseball championship series is the "World Series", the American
> football champioship game is the "Super Bowl". It is called the "Super Bowl"
> because it usually ISN'T.
> If I remember correctly the BBC does, or did, show an American football
> game every week but the thing is so cut up, I couldn't make any sense out of
> it.
> Why is called the World Series when only Americans play in it? By the same
> logic which labels the beauty contest called the "Miss Universe Pageant"
> when only earthlings, as far as anyone knows, participate in it.
> What has it to do with genealogy? All the players have ancestors.
> As to displaying the prison records at the opening of the new Records
> Office. It's sorta strikes me like giving a bride and groom two grave plots
> for a wedding gift?
>
> Jos. Gregory
>
> Sport philosopher
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <CarmarthenFHS2(a)aol.com>
> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 3:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] BC
>
>
> > Hi Joe
> >
> > Yes, I said to Richard - 'I bet Joe comes back and asks who is Carwen the
> > Coach' , and again has a wonderful answer - but I did point out to him
> that
> > he omitted to say he was a Rugby coach..........It is the rugby season
> here
> > now and because it's rained every day for the past nine weeks - it''s much
> > better to watch it in front of the telly......
> >
> > (telly = television) before you ask :-)
> > (rugby = a game of football played with a funny shaped ball)
> >
> > A question for you - why is American football called the World Series -
> when
> > only American's play it????
> >
> > Nothing to do with genealogy....
> >
> > bye Pauline and Richard
> >
> >
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> find - Contact - PeterWihl(a)compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the
> Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database
> >
>
>
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>
Pauline your note fired up the "Little (and few) gra/ey cells". How can a
"BALL", rugby or American football have POINTS on it? By definition a "BALL"
is a sphere and a sphere has no points. Thought I'd throw that in to KICK
around?
Secondly not only Americans, Central, South, and North, play Baseball, there
are several Japanese players in the major leagues and I think a Korean
player. The baseball championship series is the "World Series", the American
football champioship game is the "Super Bowl". It is called the "Super Bowl"
because it usually ISN'T.
If I remember correctly the BBC does, or did, show an American football
game every week but the thing is so cut up, I couldn't make any sense out of
it.
Why is called the World Series when only Americans play in it? By the same
logic which labels the beauty contest called the "Miss Universe Pageant"
when only earthlings, as far as anyone knows, participate in it.
What has it to do with genealogy? All the players have ancestors.
As to displaying the prison records at the opening of the new Records
Office. It's sorta strikes me like giving a bride and groom two grave plots
for a wedding gift?
Jos. Gregory
Sport philosopher
----- Original Message -----
From: <CarmarthenFHS2(a)aol.com>
To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] BC
> Hi Joe
>
> Yes, I said to Richard - 'I bet Joe comes back and asks who is Carwen the
> Coach' , and again has a wonderful answer - but I did point out to him
that
> he omitted to say he was a Rugby coach..........It is the rugby season
here
> now and because it's rained every day for the past nine weeks - it''s much
> better to watch it in front of the telly......
>
> (telly = television) before you ask :-)
> (rugby = a game of football played with a funny shaped ball)
>
> A question for you - why is American football called the World Series -
when
> only American's play it????
>
> Nothing to do with genealogy....
>
> bye Pauline and Richard
>
>
> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ====
> Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot
find - Contact - PeterWihl(a)compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the
Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database
>
Thanks Pauline
Pat
In message <bb.929eaca.275144da(a)aol.com>, CarmarthenFHS2(a)aol.com writes
>Hi Pat
>
>I've went for the Official Opening in Carmarthen RO this morning - it went
>well, I didn't stop long, Richard had other commitments, so I stayed as long
>as I had to had a cup of coffee (wine was plentyful but I was driving) and
>spoke to a few people. Peter Wihl made himself known to myself, he said he
>is being kept nice and busy with the queries from this list.....
>
>I'm not sure if you have Bert Rawlins book - The Parish Churches and
>Nonconformist Chapels of Wales, Their Records and Where to Find Them - so
>I'll type what is stated:
>
>Llandisilio West (See also Pembrokeshire)
>Established Church
>Parish Registers:
>CRO
>baptisms 1720-1812
>marriages 1720-1751; 1783-1969
>burials 1720-1948
>
>NLW
>baptisms 1720-50
>marriages 1720-50
>burials 1720-50
>
>bishops transcripts: NLW
>IGI chr 1749-1876
>
>Nonconformist Chapels
>Baptists
>Rhydwilym
>Cause began: Mr William Jones was the first to be baptized here. There is a
>tradition which says he went all the way to Olchon Church, Herefordshire or
>Abergavenny, Monmouthshire some time between 1660, when he was turned out of
>his living at Cilymanellwyd, and 1667 when Rhydwilym was embodied as a
>regular church. He returned to this area where he established the cause.
>Embodied 1667.
>
>Chapels: 1701; enlarged 1763. By 1840 another chapel had not been built.
>
>Location: near Rhydwilym, Llandysilio parish
>
>Branch of: An early cuase. it was the mother church of all Baptist chapels
>in Pembrokeshire, western Carmrathenshire and the most of southern
>Cardiganshire.
>
>Periods of growth: 1668, 33 members; 1689, 113 from 38 parishes in
>Pembrokeshire, Carmarthenshire and Cardiganshire; 1840. 400
>
>Records available: church register, 1667-1823, NLW, Ms 127 (GS 105102) (2)
>Transcript of registers, NLW, Ms 45580
>
>**************************
>
>It says the parish registers are in CRO - I'll see if Rhydwilym records are
>there....
>
>Pauline
>
>
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--
Pat Powell
Hello again Bobbi
You'll never guess - but I've just found a Mainwaring connection with my
Powell line!!!
This isn't a request - but if you ever come across them maybe you will
remember me.
Are you going to contact the collector of Mainwaring information someone
gave you?
Anyway - looking through a list of wedding presents given to Alfred
Powell and Polly Griffiths in May 1900 was one from a
Mr and Mrs Mainwaring, Brynhailog.
Unfortunately I don't what part of the country!!
Oh well - but it was a coincodence wasn't it so soon after looking for
your?
Bye for now
Pat
In message <200011191808.NAA06215(a)clmboh1-smtp1.columbus.rr.com>, Bobbi
Newcomer <rnewcome(a)columbus.rr.com> writes
>Pat,
>
>Thanks, again. (It doesn't matter how long I stay, I still a Newcomer!)
>This is a wonderful help. I am truly grateful for your generous leads.
>You are a wonderful resource for this list.
>
>Bobbi
>
>----------
>>From: Pat Powell <pat(a)pcubed.demon.co.uk>
>>To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com
>>Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] MAINWARING - Davies - Howell
>>Date: Sun, Nov 19, 2000, 10:10 AM
>>
>
>> Hello again Bobbi
>>
>> I wondered about your name because you said you were "new to the list"
>> so I thought maybe the "newcomer" was because of that!!!
>>
>> I'm so glad you think this info promising.
>>
>> If Jane did stay in Wales and was alive for the 1881 census I am
>> includind a list of Janes stated as born Llanelly Carms that were living
>> in Wales in 1881.
>> If you want to follow it up you could look for a marriage for Jane
>> Mainwaring and see if it matches to a groom of one of the surnames.
>>
>> Meanwhile regarding maps
>> For a current map if you go to
>> http://uk2.multimap.com/
>> and enter llanelli (NOT llanelly as that will give you the one in
>> Bre/Mon)
>>
>> You can then zoom in or move around the map as you want.
>>
>> For an old map of Llanelly go to
>>
>> http://www.old-maps.co.uk/10carma451/HTML/fs_45058NE1k.htm
>>
>> and you will get llanelli in 1891
>>
>> You can also move around this one as well by clicking on the arrows for
>> N,S,E and W
>>
>> Have fun!!!
>>
>> Pat
>>
>> Here is the list of possible Janes.
>>
>> CHAPPEL, Jane Wife <1819> Birth: Carm Llanelly
>> Census: Carm Llanelly
>> CLEMENT, Jane Wife <1822> Birth: Carm Llanelly
>> Census: Carm Llanelly
>> EVANS, Jane Wife <1819> Birth: Carm Llanelly
>> Census: Carm Llanelly
>> JENKINS, Jane Wife <1819> Birth: Carm Llanelly
>> Census: Carm Llanelly
>> LEWIS, Jane Wife <1821> Birth: Carm Llanelly
>> Census: Glam Merthyr Tydfil
>> MORGAN, Jane MothL <1821> Birth: Brec Llanelly
>> Census: Brec Llanelly
>> MORGANS, Jane Head <1821> Birth: Carm Llanelly
>> Census: Glam Llanrhidian Higher
>> SAMUEL, Jane Widw <1821> Birth: Carm Llanelly
>> Census: Carm Llanelly
>> TREHARNE, Jane Head <1822> Birth: Carm Llanelly
>> Census: Carm Llanelly
>>
>>
>> In message <200011190441.XAA22253(a)clmboh1-smtp1.columbus.rr.com>, Bobbi
>> Newcomer <rnewcome(a)columbus.rr.com> writes
>>>Pat,
>>>
>>>Thank you for your prompt response. Yes, my name is Newcomer. My father's
>>>ancestors changed the name from Neukommet after immigrating to US. They
>>>were prolific, so there are lots of Newcomers here.
>>>
>>>Yes, this looks very promising. I remember reading somewhere that the
>>>Mainwarings were from Llanelly. Is there a map website for Wales where I
>>>can see where that town is?
>>>
>>>The missing link is when and where they left Wales, on what boat, at what US
>>>port they arrived, and how they ended up in Meigs County, Ohio. Meigs was a
>>>coal and salt mining area, so many came from Wales to work in the mines.
>>>Thomas (my GG Grandfather) became a mine supervisor and the house still
>>>stands in Syracuse, Ohio.
>>>
>>>If this is the right family, Jane probably did not immigrate here with the
>>>rest of the family since she was at least 20 when they came. David, being
>>>18, might have stayed in Wales also.
>>>
>>>This is a great lead. Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>>Bobbi
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Pat Powell
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
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>
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Pat Powell
Hi Joe
Yes, I said to Richard - 'I bet Joe comes back and asks who is Carwen the
Coach' , and again has a wonderful answer - but I did point out to him that
he omitted to say he was a Rugby coach..........It is the rugby season here
now and because it's rained every day for the past nine weeks - it''s much
better to watch it in front of the telly......
(telly = television) before you ask :-)
(rugby = a game of football played with a funny shaped ball)
A question for you - why is American football called the World Series - when
only American's play it????
Nothing to do with genealogy....
bye Pauline and Richard
Hi Judy
This is brilliant news - at long last the marriage has been found. Yes it
does look as if the first birth for Jemima Jones in Newcastle Emlyn is the
one you want.
Are you going to send direct for them - keep me posted - well done
speak soon Pauline
Hello Robert
You are so lucky to ask for a name again - and it is written out already for
you from Carmarthenshire Historical Homes by Major Francis Jones........wish
mine were this easy..
PENDINE GREAT HOUSE, Pendine
The Great House, which concerns us here,stands at the edge of the old village
on high land about a mile from the coastal accummulation of modern houses
also known as Pendine. The house, standing immediately below the road at the
southern entance to the village, is a substantial edifice of two storeys,
with a stone porchway, very thick walls, with some old roof beams in the
ground floor rooms. Some windows in the rear wall have been closed, but some
early drip labels have survived. The cellar has also been closed. The
staircase is modern. Before the house is a small lawn encompasssed by high
stone walls, with an impressive gateway flanked by sturdy piers each
surmounted by an enormous stone ball. Behind and to the left, is an old
outhouse with a simme fawr, now crumbling, the roof slates broken and
slipping, partly mended with zinc sheets: this was probably an outer
kitchen. The whole is now a farmhouse with outbuildings adjoining the east
side. The present structure probably dates from the early 17th Century.
According to Curtis's description made just over a century ago, Great House
was curiously built and said to have 'Elizabeth fire-places in which several
persons could sit', during the tenancy of the Price family there was a
drawing room and a sitting room built out at the back, behind the present
kitchen, while the present sitting room in the house was then the servants'
hall; it was larger than at present, but was allowed to dacay; sixty years
ago (1820) the Great House was called The Court House. The earliest owner was
William Barrett who owned properties in this area and after his death in 1553
he left them to his daughter and heiress Jenet Barrett. She married Erasmus
Saunders, a merchant who had moved from London to Tenby and was Bailiff of
that town in 1572. He predeceased his wife, and in 1610 she conveyed the
'tenement called Greate House in the Green of Pendine' and other properties
to her younger son William Barrett (d1635). By the 1670's it had been
acquired by the Price family who sold 'the capital messuage' in 1753 to
Gwynne Vaughan of Jordanston, Pembs., Esq. The Vaughans later sold it to Dr
John Jones of Haverfordwest whose daughter and coheiress Mary brought it to
her husband Thomas Lloyd (d1807) of Bronwydd, Cards. There is another
substantial house in the village called BIG HOUSE hard by the church. Little
is known of its history, but Curtis tells that the somnolent Cromwell slept
within its walls on his expedition to West Wales. Where did he not sleep?
It had also been the property of the Saunders, and in 1877 was sold to Morgan
Jones of Llanmilo. It is heavily modernised.
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let me know if this is the correct family Robert......
regards
Pauline
Hi Pauline & List,
Thanks for offering to help, really appreciated. I'll wait until next
month to see the CD, .. I've tried some of the suggestions, didn't work!
But I can promise one thing .. when my daughter wakes up early Christmas
Day, so do I !!!
Thanks again for your kindness.
steve