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Hi Pauline,
Sorry this is nothing to do with Carmarthenshire.
My wife's ancestors originated from Radnorshire. Is there a list site for
that county?
Tony. Rhydcymerau.
Hello All
Just to let you know that I subscribed to a list in England for a couple of
weeks to see if I could find someone who could answer me one question - they
have about 800-1000 listers there, and not one person offered any answer -
and not even a family link so I've unsubscribed.
No wonder everyone says that our list is so helpful - I'd hate to think that
someone did not have an answer to a query - even if we could not
help.......they were only having 19-30 people a day on their list tooooooooo
so it wasn't as busy as one would expect....
bye from a disgruntled Pauline
Hello Anne
Any certificates that you require for Llanelli can be obtained in writing to:
Superintendent Registrar
Registrar Births Deaths and Marriages
County Council Offices
Swansea Road
Llanelly
Carmarthenshire
SA15 3DJ
Send a cheque for �6.50 made payable to Carmarthenshire County Council along
with an Self addressed envelope - give as much details as you can - fathers
name, occupation and mothers maiden name (if known) this will narrow it down
being as the surname is Thomas.
They are very helpful in Llanelly registry, so give as much information as
you like - and don't forget the SAE - they should return the certificate/s to
you within the week.
Let me know the years that he was in the police force, whilst indexing 1851
census this week I came across 2 policemen....
Hope this helps
Pauline
Hello,
Here I am again with my Reeses. I remembered that my grandfather, Gomer
Rees, had been in WWI so I decided to look up his older brother, William
Rees, who my second cousin did not remember existing, in the Commonwealth
War Graves Commission site. I did this on an outside chance I'd find
something. My
greatgrandparents were William and Esther Rees.
I found the following:
William Rees - 1st/4th Bn., Welsh Regiment - died Tuesday, 18th July 1916 -
Age 33.
Son of William and Esther Rees; husband Margaret Rees, 19 Dolan Rd., Llanelli
Cemetery: Llanelli (Box) Cemetery, Carmarthenshire
Grave Ref.: II.12.28
It's quite a coincidence - right age and parents' names. I'm a little bit
lost now as to how to confirm that this is the right William. Any
suggestions?
Thanks, Dilys
Evan,
The hand-written word is definitely 'caean'. However, I find your suggestion
interesting because the object was apparently stuck in the mud. It occurred
during the American Civil War at a time when both sides were anxious (?) for
conflict. The diarist complains frequently about the rain, mud and carriage's
becoming stuck. (sounds a bit like Wales)! LOL.
Tony. Rhydcymerau.
Hi Pauline
Many thanks for pursuing this. Benjamin married Elizabeth Sambrooke in the
Bethania Chapel, Merthyr Tydfil "according to the rites and ceremonies of
the Independents by John Hughes, Minister, and Roger Williams, Registrar."
Still trying to find out if he and John were brothers, so I'm hoping that
the Bwlch Newydd Independent church will be where you find him - that was
the one on the IGI I told you about. Then it will be a case of finding John
Morris b. abt 1814 Conwill CMN, son of Thomas, and hoping that his mother
was Rachel too.... Both John and Benjamin had moved to Merthyr by 1837 and
1844 respectively. I know that's not unusual because of all the job
opportunities there, but it's another thing that I'm desperately hoping
points to them being closely related!
Kind regards,
Karen in Hants, UK
----- Original Message -----
From: <CarmarthenFHS2(a)aol.com>
To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: 28 January 2000 19:56
Subject: Re: Benjamin MORRIS
> Hi Karen
>
> I did try to look in Carmarthen RO today - amongst the other mountain of
work
> I had - I looked in Abernant for any Morris - not there - it's eliminated
> that PC anyway.
>
> I did ask for the other parish registers, but by the time I got to asking
for
> them - my stomach pains took over, we had to go for food.....
>
> Where did the marriage of Benjamin Morris and Elizabeth Sambrooke take
place,
> in the church, registry office or Chapel - this could help me out, because
> lots of Conwil Elved people were non-conformists - these records are on
reels
> of microfilm - so will take longer to locate - but I know that Bethel
> Calvanistic Methodist church in Conwil has brilliant records - they even
give
> the mothers maiden name, date of birth etc. brilliant - lets hope one of
them
> is there at least.
>
> speak soon
> Pauline
>
> ______________________________
Hi Karen
Did not realise that he was baptised in Bwlchnewydd - did you state this
before - this is in Newchurch parish which is the neighbouring parish of
Conwil Elved - lets hope we can find them both here.....
Pauline
Hello Dianne
I've looked through my marriage entries and there is not one Jeremy from
Meidrim....
I've looked through the IGI for a Jane Jeremy and the nearest there is a Jane
Jeremy baptised on 31st Dec 1811 in Abergwilli ....
I only look through parish registers for Carmarthenshire FHS members - sorry
but I have to keep to this or it would not be fair on the ones who support us
through membership to enable us to be able to assist others....
I can look through any of my indexes for listers and our various books etc -
no problem, so if you have another query let us know.
If you want to know what information we hold go to our webb pages on
http://members.aol.com/cmnfhs1/
regards
Pauline
Hi Bob
Do not think that I have forgotton all about you - but as I've stated in
previous e-mails there is NO information in Carmarthen RO yet for anything
apart for parish registers, census, St Catherine's and a few other bits and
bobs...........
All the estate records etc., are not there yet, and they do not envisage them
to be until after EASTER - can you hang on that long??
I don't have any information on Pembrokeshire - and most of Carmarthenshire
records do not go back that far Llandissilio West Parish registers only
started in 1720 - at that time two people could only be married in the Parish
Church, they would not have been allowed to marry in the Baptist Church as
this was illegal.
Do you have the write-up of the entry in Bert Rawlins book about Llandisilio
West for you to know what records are available??
let me know, speak soon
Pauline
Hi Karen
I did try to look in Carmarthen RO today - amongst the other mountain of work
I had - I looked in Abernant for any Morris - not there - it's eliminated
that PC anyway.
I did ask for the other parish registers, but by the time I got to asking for
them - my stomach pains took over, we had to go for food.....
Where did the marriage of Benjamin Morris and Elizabeth Sambrooke take place,
in the church, registry office or Chapel - this could help me out, because
lots of Conwil Elved people were non-conformists - these records are on reels
of microfilm - so will take longer to locate - but I know that Bethel
Calvanistic Methodist church in Conwil has brilliant records - they even give
the mothers maiden name, date of birth etc. brilliant - lets hope one of them
is there at least.
speak soon
Pauline
Hi Liz
Glad that you and Dilys are in touch - you must know a lot about Llanelli -
have you been back here lately?? It has changed so much that even I hardly
know it now....
If we can possibly help just ask - anything that we have here at our humble
office in the way of indexes, books, census etc, we'll be glad to assist if
we can - Pembrey parish is what we have the most of (nearly everything) -
this parish includes, Trimsaran, Pembrey, Burry Port, Pwll as far as Thomas
Terrace -
We started off just indexing the marriages of Pembrey, and we just snowballed
from there....
speak soon
Pauline
http://members.aol.com/cmnfhs1/
Hello all
If you think that I am not on the list yesterday or today, it's because I've
got quite a lot of work OFF list, trying to sort out information with members
who have requested information from the parish
registers.........................
Carmarthen RO is still not up and running to full capacity - there is still
not enough information in the new offices to do a complete research study -
only parish registers are available....along with the census, St Catherines
House indexes, wills, etc.
Pauline
Hi Jane
I'll see what I can find for you in Cyffig parish church - being a minor is
that she was under the age of 21 years - glad they married in the parish
church - hopefully her baptism will be there..... you did not give me her
fathers occupation!!
What do you require a copy of?? They do not photocopy parish registers in
Carmarthen RO because they use all the original registers........for the ones
on microfilm they nearly had a printer reader - but as always they cannot
use it as they were sent the wrong one - and cannot change until after April
- crazy place.....
see what I can find then Jane
Pauline
A few details from 1863 Llanelly Guardian
Thursday 13th August 1863
marriage:
at Llanwadding, Pembs Mr Richard Hopkins, lead smelter of Llanelly to Miss
Mary Thomas of Llanwadding.
Death
10th August, after a short illness which she bore with Christian resignation,
Rachel, beloved wife of A E West Esq., of the Adjutant General's Office,
Dublin, and daughter of the late Mr David Rosser of Swansea.
11th August - after a lingering illness, Mrs Davies who was pew-opener at
Park Street Chapel for a period of 23years, and wife of Mr George Davies,
carpenter, Pottery St, of this town.
7th August - aged 5 yrs, the beloved daughter of Capt William Clement of the
Schooner 'William' of this town.
also 3rd September at Llanelly, the infant daughter of Capt Clement of the
Schooner William
Thursday 20th August 1863
death
16th August - From the effects of a fall, Thomas Jones, Mill Street Llanelly
aged 32 yrs.
Thursday 10th September 1863
marriage:
6th September, at the Parish Church Llanelly, by Rev E Rowlands, curate, Mr
David Bowen mariner, Seaside to Miss Rosannah Thomas Spring Gardens Llanelly.
Thursday 24th September 1863
marriage:
19th September At St Paul's church Llanelly, by Rev D E Williams, Mr Benjamin
Davies, smith, to Miss Mary Davies, Grocer, Seaside, both of Llanelly.
19th September, at the Registrar's Office, Llanelly, Mr T Davies, butcher, to
Mrs Elizabeth Roe of the Wern Llanelly.
Thursday 1st October 1863
24th September - at St David's Church Carmarthen, by the Rev Chancellor
Williams, by licence Mr Thomas Davies, Ferryside to Esther, second daughter
of Mr John Daniel, Ship, Blue Street Carmarthen.
This concludes some extracts - no petty sessions -
regards Pauline
At 13:39 26/01/2000 EST, you wrote:
>Hello Dilys
>
>Find below some William Rees who are Mason's and William Hopkins who work in
>the tinworks - I must say that there are lots of Wm Hopkins who worked in
the
>tinworks - looks like 1891 will have to be viewed - someone has looked at
>1891 for you, were they the correct ones?? Let me know
>
Hi Pauline,
Thanks for the lookup.
William and Esther Rees have been looked up in 1881 and 1891 and have been
pretty well solved.
William and Ann Hopkins at Old Castle Road - Worker at the Tin Works -
with a daughter Susannah born in 1888 have not been looked up in the 1891
census. As I don't know any of my grandmother's (ie Susannah's) siblings,
it would have to be the 1891 census.
Regards, Dilys
Hello All
Just to confirm that the new 2000 members only web pages will be available
from the week-end, Richard has been working hard to complete these pages,
with lots of new information etc.
Hope they will be helpful to you all again this year, and help you find out
information that you would not have previously been able to access.
All Year 2000 Members will have their new password in the next day or so.
The old web pages will not be closing until March 1st (St David's Day) for
existing members, when membership is due.
regards
Pauline and Richard James
Carmarthenshire FHS
http://members.aol.com/cmnfhs1/
Hello Everyone
Just dropping a line to ask if anyone out there is visiting our web pages -
Richard has been working hard on these to help those of you out there
researching family history (of course I know all of you are or you would not
be on the listers pages) .
Do you have any comments to make, do you have any ideas of what to add to the
web pages?? We'd like to hear from you just to let us know what you think of
the web pages, much appreciated ~
I know Pat is a regular browser - she keeps us posted when things go awry or
are missing - thanks
The web pages are at:
http://members.aol.com/cmnfhs1/
There is a magazine page there - just browse around to see what is there....
regards
Pauline
Hi Mary
There is one sure way of obtaining her maiden name, and that is by purchasing
the birth certificate of one of the children, they were all born in Llanelly,
you have an address and the youngest child was only 7 months old, so you
practically have an exact date.......
In the 1871 census you did not state if she was married or a widow......do
you have them in 1881?? If not let me know and I'll have a look for you.
The 1861 census is not complete for all parishes - this census has a lot of
information missing from it, I know that quite a lot of Carmarthenshire for
this census is missing, Carmarthen Town is not complete, as with lots of the
other parishes - so maybe this is why you cannot find them.
Did we find all you wanted on your Chappel family - this was an easier name
to look for .....
speak soon
Pauline
Hello Listers,
Any help finding the maiden name of Hannah THOMAS will be very much appreciated. Also the death date of David Thomas, coal miner.
1871 Census, Llanelly, Cmn.
14 Swansea Road
Hannah Thomas, age 31 , grocer, born St Clears
Ann 9, born Llanelly
John Thomas, 7, do
Mary Jane, 6, do (my grandmother who married David Chappell 28 Feb.1886)
David 2, do
William, 4, do
Benjamine, 7 mos,
David THOMAS, Hanna's husband, was a coal miner. I have no date/place of birth or death for him.
I could not find them on the 1861 census for Llanelly. I do not know where they were married. And the name is THOMAS! I can not help but laugh at myself sometimes when I think I may find them. It would
be a modern day miracle.
Thank you all for any help you may give me.
Mary CHAPPELL Langan