The will of John C. Carman is cited in "Settlers of the Beekman Patent" but
may not be complete. The author cited as his source DCW G:12. (Dutchess
County Wills Book G, p.12 ?) The author noted that John C. Carman was
"formerly of Ulysses, in the County of Tompkins, State of New York."
"He named wife Gettila (sic) , son of John and friend Nathaniel Mack
executors." He named the children "Cornelius, James, John, Elizabeth
Thompson, and Mary Purdy."
He further added that "a Cornelius died 23 Sept.1860, age 82 y, 2 m and
was buried in the Dutch Churchyard in Fishkill (citing DGDC 74.) He married
Mary who died 1 January 1850, age 50-4-1 (sic) and was buried same. Cornelius
married Maria Rumsey on 6 November 1803 (citing FRCh, same source as marriage
of John Carman to Diadama Wright on 31 November 1795.)
This suggests that the John C. Carman who died in Dutchess Co., NY in 1823
did not have a son Alexander or Joseph.
In my database (because they lived where my Carmans did though not connected)
I have a Joseph Carman b. 1772 who died Oct.28, 1853 in Chenango, Broome Co.,
NY. His father was Alexander born 1749, died 1823 in Rochester, NY. With
wife Catherine Simpson had four sons including Joseph.
Research done in the 1880's by W.S. Carman and listed in various "books."
His
Book 12 was originally titled on page one as "Carmans at Rosendale" and began
with Elijah Carman. The name Elijah was crossed out and replaced with John E.
Carman. A notation at the bottom of the page says "Joseph born 1759 says
Carman on page three was named John and had 13 children."
This is not good proof of the name of Alexander's father but all I have. The
various books by W.S. Carman have been microfilmed by the Mormans so you
might did there. Also I have not checked their IGI to see if more info.
You should know there were at least four John Carmans identified by W.S.
Carman that lived in Dutchess County about the same time. Untangling them is
a challenge. My ancestor is one of them! I have some data on him like the
names of three wives and their children, the family story that he left Long
Island as a young man and did not want anything to do with fighting in the
Revolution. Doesn't seem like Dutchess Co. was a good choice then. Perhaps
the real story is something else but I have not been able to get further. I
have not found when or where he died, no will or estate settlement. I know he
was dead by 1843 as his widow was remarried and living in Broome Co., NY. To
add further consternation, I have not been able to find when and where she
married the second time or find her in the census as a widow.
I did find my direct ancestor, her son Stephen in marrying in Dutchess County
in 1827, selling land there in 1833, then moving on to Ulster Co., NY. His
older brother Thomas had moved to Newburg, Orange Co,.NY by 1826 where he
married. A younger brother Richard had also moved to Newburg, Orange Co.
where he died as a young married man. Younger brother Isaac lived many places
in Ulster Co., NY.
So much work to do but thought I would share in case it might help you sort
yours out.
Nancy Long, Anaheim, Ca. (My paternal grandma was a Carman by birth.)