Graham
Your post about John Hicks was interesting. Where did the Quaker
connection come from? First, is there a typo on birth and death dates for
son born in 1640 died in *1740*. Did the children you mentioned
stay with Herodias in Rhode Island and
then come to Long Island where they were influenced by other Quakers?.
Was it Herodias who became a Quaker and marched for the Quaker cause?
Also, do you have any more information about the Hicks who came on the
Fortune? A John Kirman/Carman/Cannon came on the Fortune, left 2 acres of
land he and William Tench had acquired next to Gov. Bradshaw, to the Widow
Billingsly, who sold then sold it to another Governor Prence - I think.
Nothing connects him to John Carman of Hempstead, 1st husband of
Florence Carman, but he was living in the same period.
Having computer trouble here, files unavailable, so, hope you will excuse
any erroneous information.
You wrote:>
I am interested in finding out if there is any more definitive information
about the ancestry of John Hicks who was born between 1605 and 1615 in
England and died in Long Island in 1672. He had a son Thomas who was born
in 1640 in Weymouth, MA and died in Long Island in 1740. John and Thomas
were common ancestors of then following Quakers: Elias Hicks, the preacher;
Edward Hicks, the painter; Thomas Hicks, the painter; and my wife, whose
maiden name is Hicks. Neither John nor Thomas were Quakers. A popular held
belief is that John was the son of Robert Hicks, who came over on the ship
"Fortune" to Massachusetts in 1621. I speculate that this belief was
perpetuated by Benjamin D. Hicks of Long Island in the late 19th century.
There are sources that state that there is no proof that John was the son of
Robert Hicks (1580-1647) or is descended from Sir Ellis Hicks et al.
Apparently a rather complete analysis by Seversmith in "Colonial Families
of LI, NY, & CT," Vol 3, pp 1368-1384, discounts any relationship between
John and Robert.
John was born between 1605 and 1615 in England. He married first Herodia(s)
Long at St. Faith's Church in London in March 1636/7. She late claimed to
have been only 12 or 13 at the time. He emigrated about 1637, first to
Weymouth, MA, then to Newport, RI, and later to Long Island before 1660..
After divorcing Herodias Long (the mother of Thomas) he married the widow
Florentia Carman and then the widow Rachel Starr on 22 January 1661/62. I
happen to descend from Rachel Starr by her first husband.
I would be very interested in any insights people may have.
Thanks
Graham Johnson