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Patricia, I am replying to your message on the list because others may
have the same questions and I will reply to you separately also because
I too, live in Oklahoma. Gary, I just found the Holston Past Finder
article, which I forgot that I had.
The only birthdate I have for my William is the one on the cemetary
marker. I had assumed that it was wrong and belonged to your William,
but maybe I should not have assumed. I do not know the birthdate of
your William except that it is shown as 1-8-1761 in "Carmac Family
History" compiled by Mrs Jake Morris of Henderson Iowa. Vol. I, No. 1
of Carmack Cousins has the other date, probably because people believed
the grave belonged to your William.
Death date for your William is unknown to me for certain, however, your
William of Lee Co. was still living in 1850 because he is on the Lee Co.
1850 Census. My William's death was in 1849 (probate, 22 Oct 1849). I
posted that info on the List 14 Oct 98. I believe he died 22 October
1849 as the marker says, and that "Feb. 25, 1850" is the probate date as
shown with the abstract of his will.
I do not have any other information on Sarah Richards other than she was
the 2nd wife of your William and Mother of Levi, born 1791. I assume you
know that he married 3rd to Mary (Polly) Yearby Ball, a widow.
Attached are my original posting and Patricia's response. Happy New
Year to all!
Many, many thanks to Agnes Jones who gave me the link to my William many
years ago.
Betty in Oklahoma
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densmom(a)webtv.net wrote:
The following is being posted to establish the family connections of
William Carmack and John Carmack, Jr. who are buried in old family
burying grounds on King's Mill Pike, near Bristol in Washington Co. VA.
The narrative contains 2 errors. One is that their father John Carmack,
Sr. was not born in Ireland, but Maryland instead as stated by John Jr.
in his application for Rev. War Pension. Another error is that
Elizabeth Walker's father was not Capt James Walker, but Capt. William
Walker instead. She is buried beside William.
Research done on this family (mine BTW) shows the following descent to
the owner in 1936:
Cornelius I
John, Sr.
William and John, Jr. (2 sons)
Cornelius (son of Wm.)
Alexander
James Cornelius (age 56 in 1936)
Narrative follows taken from the Holston Past Finder:
HPF 41-33
SYCAMORE SHOALS CHAPTER UNVEILS MARKERS TO REVOLUTIONARY SOLDIERS
JOHN & WILLIAM CARMACK OF WASHINGTON COUNY, VIRGINIA
Bristol, VA-TN, 1 Sept. 1936
On Sunday afternoon members of Sycamore Shoals Chapter, Daughters of the
American Revolution, gathered to do honor to the memory of two
Revolutionary soldiers, John and William CARMACK, of Washington County,
Virginia, and to unveil the markers at their graves.
Mrs. George M. TURNER, regent of the chapter, was in charge of the
impressive ceremonies and was ably assisted by Mrs. Frank T. BLANCHARD,
chaplain, Mrs. Robert CARMACK, historian, the James C. BREWER Drum and
Bugle Corps, and members of the CARMACK family whose interest and
cooperation added greatly to the historic value of the occasion.
A large number of friends and relatives of the CARMACK family and
members of other patriotic organizations met the D.A.R. first at the
grave of John CARMACK, Junior, in the old family burying ground on the
KING's Mill Pike. After reveilee, the salute to the Flag - led by Mrs.
J. G. HAGY and the singing of America, Mrs. TURNER read the ritual of
the D.A.R., response was made by the assembly, and prayer read by the
chaplain. Miss Juanita CARMACK, of Konnarock, unveiled the marker, and
her sister, Mrs. R.L. HASINGER, placed a galax wreath upon the grave.
Mr. Ford CARMACK gave a sketch of the life and service of his
great-great grandfather, the revolutionary soldier, son of John CARMACK,
Senior, the pioneer who was born in Ireland, came to Virginia in the
late seventeenth century, and entered between two and three thousand
acres in Washington County, Virginia, and Hawkins County, Tennessee,
practically all of which remains in the possession of his descendants.
After Taps, the assembly went immediately to the burying ground about a
mile away, also on the King's Mill Pike, where lie the remains of
William CARMACK who, like his brother, served in the cause of American
Independence.
Here the same commemorative service was used and the marker was unveiled
by little miss Jimie Lou and Frenchie MOORE, children of Dr. and Mrs.
French MOORE of Abingdon. A wreath was placed upon the grave by Miss
Billie CARMACK. Mrs. MOORE (Helen CARMACK) gave a most interesting
sketch of William CARMACK and his descendants who occupy the home chosen
from a large estate by this ancestor in 1782. The first house was built
on a knoll just in front of the cemetary and the cornerstones are now
used for markers of the graves. The second site was only a short
distance away and when about fifteen years ago, the present owner
rebuilt the ancestral home which had come to him he included the four
large rooms of the original log house, preserving them to posterity in a
beautiful home.
William CARMACK married Elizabeth WALKER, daughter of Captain James
Walker, also a Revolutionary soldier, and reared a family of ten whose
descendants are innumerable. By his will, his son, Cornelius received
the home tract which he later willed to his son, Alexander who left it
to his son, James Cornelius. When "Taps" was sounded for the second
time on this soft summer afternoon, all present were invited to the home
where Mr. and Mrs. CARMACK and their four charming daughters kept open
house, and the guests enjoyed their delightful hospitality and the
opportunity to see the lovely relics of a by-gone day.
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These grave sites are surely the ones in the book "High On A Windy Hill"
by Catherine S. McConnell. The William Carmack who lived in Lee Co. VA
and died in 1851 must be buried elsewhere, and probably in Lee Co.
Betty Mealy
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Dear Betty:
You have answered my question that I've hounded so many people about.
Your William, b. ca. 1761, married to Elizabeth (Betsey) Walker, has
been confused over and over again for MY William Carmack, also b. 1761,
who married Mary Hartsock/Sarah Richards. Your last paragraph said it
all--"The William Carmack who lived in Lee Co, VA and died in 1851 must
be buried elsewhere, and probably in Lee Co." I could never distinguish
between the deaths of the two Williams. Was the birth date of your
William (1/5/1761), and the death date, (9/24/1849)???? This is one of
the most confusing items documented so many times for the two men. I
believe my William was born 1/8/1761, died 9/24/1851. Do you agree???
I have a cousin in OKLA who will be very interested in your data. He
has done so much family research, but he doesn't have a computer--what a
shame. I must contact him by letter (he's 88).
Thanks again, and although we follow different lines of William
Carmacks, when you have new info, I'd like to hear from you about the
Carmacks. As a last request---do you have any information on "Sarah
Richards", mentioned above? She was the mother of Levi Carmack, b.
1791. HAPPY HOLIDAYS! PAT O'NEAL
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