I find your research results quite interesting, in that some of the paper tracing goes
back to a certain male Carmack, but the DNA does not. Now, is it possible that there may
have been a little hanky-panky going on back then?? I say this because after exploring my
own family line, I discovered dear ole' grandpaw went exploring on the sly. They
didn't have birth control, and who's to say who a child may have had for a
biological daddy???
I have another ggggrandmother whose sister gave birth twice to children belonging to my
ggggrandfather. At least, this is one thing to consider when the paper trail and the DNA
trail do not match. Keep in mind, they weren't all saints! (All in good humor)
----- Original Message -----
From: densmom(a)juno.com [mailto:densmom@juno.com]
Sent: 12/6/2005 8:05:41 AM
To: CARMACK-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARMACK] Levi Carmack Family
Dale,
I will venture my thoughts. Your last paragraph reads:
"No matter, the difficult part is understanding the matching with the
NC group.
I still think the prudent thing is to go back and prove the
paper genealogy traces to Levi (born 1791).
If anyone has any theories or thoughts please pass them on.
dale"
Since this new participant's DNA doesn't match the Cornelius line
and it does match the NC group, the most likely case is that the paper
genealogy is wrong in connecting the younger Levi to Levi born in
1791 of the Cornelius line. (It certainly wouldn't be a rarity for such a
thing to happen).
I am wondering if anyone has considered the new participant's Levi might
be the son
of the Levi in N. C. The William you have above in the N.C. group had 2
brothers.
One brother was a John and the other was a Levi, born abt. 1778. The
Jessie Y.
Carmack, wives Tearcy Kent and Patience Kent also had a son Levi, b. Dec.
25,
1821. This is from page 130 of Dr. Peckham's book.
Now to my question, I have wanted to ask you, Dale for a long time, what
did you
learn about the following:
"There is interesting report that provides a link to the Sorenson
Molecular
Genealogy Foundation (SMGF) Database. The title of the report os SMGF
Database Configuration - DNA Results Comparison. When I click on my data
it
takes me to the SMGF Database and shows me that I have a 25 of 25 match
with
someone. It shows me their pedigree chart. The most interesting thing
is
that the match is NOT Carmack. The other "interesting" thing is that it
traces back to a William Jones born 1779 in Washington Co PA. What does
this mean? I don't have a clue, but it may be of interest to see if that
person lived near any Carmack's...who knows what could be found. There
are
similar matches for Samuel Carmack that are not Carmack surnames."
Try this on for the above. Remember that Gwen probably was married to a
Jones
in Pennsylvania before she married Cornelius. Maybe your ancestor was a
son of
her Jones marriage and adopted the Carmack name. That would work for me,
but
didn't you say you matched with the Cornelius line? You can't be a match
to both, can you?
The suspense is killing me.
Betty
On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 22:27:23 -0500 "Dale Carmack"
<dcarmack(a)gmpexpress.net> writes:
> I've been struggling how to organize this email so that it is readily
> understandable.
>
> The DNA project initially found 2 distinct, unrelated groups. One
> group was
> definitely Cornelius Carmack descendants. The other group cannot
> find a
> common ancestor but all seem to trace back to North Carolina (thus I
> have
> generically called them the NC group). There has been some research
> to
> indicate that the NC Group traces as follows:
>
> Two Participants "may" link to:
> William Carmack & Pency Kent
> William "may" be the:
> Son of John Carmack born abt 1747 Craven Co, NC
> Son of John Carmack born abt 1723
> Son of James Carmack born May 1701, Kent Co, MD
> Son of Dennis Carmack & Bridget (it is theorized that Dennis is
> brother to
> Cornelius)
>
> One Participant traces back to Samuel B Carmack. There has been
> some
> research to indicate that Samuel B Carmack "might" be the son of
> Jesse Y.
> Carmack & Tearcy Kent who "might" be part of the same John line
> above.
>
> We don't know that any of these participants trace to the John
> Carmack line
> above but we do know that these 3 Participants share a common
> ancestor.
>
> We now have a new DNA Participant who seems to have a good paper
> trail back
> to Levi Carmack (born 1791) of Lee Co, VA/Claiborne Co, TN. Levi is
> the:
> son of William Carmack & Mary Hartsock,
> son of Cornelius Carmack & Margery Evans,
> son of William Carmack & Jane McDaniel,
> Son of Cornelius Carmack & Gwin
>
> Levi Carmack (born 1791) had many children. Another DNA project
> participant
> descends from one of Levi's sons (Jacob Carmack & Lydia Burns). The
> DNA
> from this participant matches the rest of the Cornelius
> Participants, as
> expected. The new participant traces to Levi's son Levi but his DNA
> does
> not match the Cornelius line.
>
> It's the fact that the DNA matches the NC Group that makes it
> interesting.
> To be honest I'm not sure how to interpret the results. At 1st look
> I'd say
> that if the paper genealogy is accurate and traces to Levi's son
> Levi then
> it means one of 2 things (the son was adopted or illegitimate). To
> prove
> this out we would have to find other male Carmacks from that same
> Levi line
> to take the DNA test. But even if this were true that would not
> explain how
> the DNA would match Carmack's in North Carolina who are unrelated to
> Cornelius.
>
> No matter, the difficult part is understanding the matching with the
> NC
> group. I still think the prudent thing is to go back and prove the
> paper
> genealogy traces to Levi (born 1791). If anyone has any theories or
> thoughts please pass them on.
>
> dale
>
>
>
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