Hi . I'm not sure what you are looking for exactly but I know that my mother
Blanche Carmack Kastner is related to these Carmacks they are her Uncles and
Aunts and poss Grandfather. you can contact me at jbsb3(a)home.com I know I
have photos of some of them and also of their head stones at the cemetary.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill" <billj3370(a)blomand.net>
To: <CARMACK-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 5:47 AM
Subject: Re: Isaac Payne and Sarah Carmack
Lewis Carmack, Married, Rebecca Cagele living in Van Buren Co., TN in
1850,
left TN between 1850 - 1860 moved to Pulaski MO, Children:
1. Susan married John Payne, I have no record of who this John is. (note*,
Susan may have been named from Rebecca's mother Susannah Cagle)
2. John married Thursey Ramsey (note#Dale would it be possible that John
was from father John Carmack)
3. Charles C. married Mary (Polly) Payne 5 Oct. 1854 in Van Buren Co., TN,
daughter of Joseph Pain and Luck, Joseph & Lucy Pain living in Van Buren
Co., TN in 1850 but move with Lewis Carmack and others to Mo. (note*
Charles may have been from Rebecca's father Charles Cagle)
4. Lucy M. married James Bates
5. Jesse Allen married Martha Ducker (note*Dale, there were Allen families
in Van Buren County, along with Paine family are here today)
6. Elizaabeth married David Payne, don of Joseph and Lucy Pain.
7.William Henry married Susan Greer
8. L. William married Amanda
Shockley Cemetery near where we live has some Paine's buried in it there
are still Paine's living in Van Buren County as of today. I haven't done
any research on this family but I have some material done by others.
Agnes
Jones
At 06:36 AM 4/6/01 -0400, Dale Carmack wrote:
>I'm forwarding an email post from another list.
>
>dale
>
>
>
>Source: KYKNOX-L(a)rootsweb.com
>From: Joyce Taylor Collins <joycecollins(a)compuserve.com>
>Subject: PAYNE, CARMACK, NELSON
>
>
>Posted on: Knox County, Kentucky Queries
>Reply Here:
http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ky/Knox/14712
>
>Surname:
>-------------------------
>
>Hi, Sue,
>
>Here are some bits and pieces of information regarding the PAYNE family
>and descendants. Most all of this is from the KY Birth Index and may help
>you.
>
>First, Knox Co. Marriage Bond Book H, Line 94 dated 1-20-1887; lst
marriages
>for both at Isaac CARMACK's
>PAYNE, Isaac, age 26, he and parents b. Knox Co. to:
>CARMACK, Sarah, age 16, b. Jackson Co., KY, no other info.
>
>This is probably the last born child of Sarah CARMACK PAYNE. It shows as
>follows:
>
>PAYNE, Axie, b. 12-13-1912 in Knox Co., maiden name of mother: CARMACK,
>Sarah, Vol. 158, Cert #62937
>
>Then you say that one of Isaac and Sarah PAYNE's children was a Lou PAYNE
>who married a Roy NELSON. There are too many likely Roy NELSON's born for
>me to determine which might have been her husband BUT none born that I
>can see in Knox Co., KY.
>
>The following are some of the children of Lou PAYNE and Roy NELSON that
>I can pick up:
>
>NELSON, Roy, b. 8-8-1949 in Knox, maiden name of mother: Lou PAYNE, Vol.
>086, Cert #42900
>
>NELSON, Mae B., b. 5-5-1942 in Knox, maiden name of mother: Lou PAYNE,
>Vol. 062-Cert #30534
>
>NELSON, Harry F., b. 8-11-1945 in Knox, maiden name of mother: Lula
PAYNE,
>Vol. 091, Cert #45074
>
>NELSON, Grace, b. 2-11-1944 in Knox Co., maiden name of mother: Lula
PAYNE,
>Vol. 021, Cert #10226
>
>NOTE: I did not see a birth record for Magdeline NELSON.
>However, I did locate these records:
>
>JACKSON, Frances, b. 12-27-1942 in Knox Co., maiden name of mother:
Madalene
>NELSON, Vol. 185, Cert #92437
>
>JACKSON, Harold D., b. 6-19-1946 in Knox Co., maiden name of mother:
Madline
>NELSON, Vol. 058, Cert #28886
>
>JACKSON, Teresa D., b. 8-19-1957 "in KENTON Co., KY", maiden name of
mother:
>Madeline NElSON, Vol. 113, Cert #56149
>
>JACKSON, Earl, b. Kenton Co. on 4-9-1955, maiden name of mother: Madline
>NELSON, Vol. 037, Cert #18336
>
>Regarding all the names in your second paragraph, you don't have dates
>at all or who these folks might even be connected to or married to. It
>would be helpful to have some of that information or I would not even
know
>where to begin to look.
>
>Joyce Taylor Collins
>La Palma, CA
>
>
>
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