At 08:21 PM 2/25/00 -0500, Dale Carmack wrote:
Thanks Agnes, this is the first time I have run accross this. I was
wondering if it was anything about Ann Black. Everyone thought she was
Indian too but we found her parents in Georgia.
thanks,
dale
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill [mailto:billj3370@blomand.net]
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 8:22 PM
To: dcarmack(a)us.hsanet.net; CARMACK-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: FW: [OCTK-L] Cherokee claims - some from the Overton County
area.
At 06:18 PM 2/25/00 -0500, Dale Carmack wrote:
>I found this on the OCTK-L list and since it had several Carmack listings I
>would pass it along. Does anyone know what source 34180 is? Looks like
all
>the Carmack ones were rjected based on this claim.
>
>dale
>
>Source: OCTK-L(a)rootsweb.com
>From: "BONNIE WHITE" <thewhitehouse-hixson-tn(a)worldnet.att.net>
>Subject: [OCTK-L] Cherokee claims - some from the Overton County area.
>
>I found these names of persons who had filed through the Cherokee Court of
>Claims from the Overton County area. My great grandmother Charlotta Neal
>Burgess also applied (claim #36400) and her claim was rejected. This is not
>meant to be a complete list. I tried to proof it, and think it is correct.
>Hope it is a help to someone on the OCTK list.
>============================================================
># 32901 Benjamin B. Bilyew and 3 children. Hilham, TN. Rejected. Does not
>establish fact of descent from a person who was a party to the treaty of
>1835-6 or 46. Misc. Test P. 786.
># 35469 Alvin R. Carmack, and ... children. Hilham, TN. Rejected. Claims
>through same source as 32901
>#35479 Martha B. Smith. Hilham, TN. Rejected. Claims through same source as
>32901
>#35471 Mary E. Sullivan. Hilham, TN. Rejected. Claims through same source
>as 32901
>#35472 Betta A. Masters and 2 children. Hilham, TN. Rejected. Claims
>through same source as 32901
>#35473. Rosa L. Maxwell and 3 children. Livingston, TN. Claims through same
>source as 32901
>#35474. Albert R. Masters and 2 children. Hilham. TN. Rejected. Claims
>through same source as 32901
>#35475. John R. Masters. Hilham, TN. Rejected. Claims through same source
>as 32901
>#35476. James A. Masters. Hilham, TN. . Rejected. Claims through same
source
>as 32901
>#35477. Sarah A. Brown. Hilham, TN. . Rejected. Claims through same source
>as 32901
>#35476. Manila Eldridge and 3 children. Hilham, TN. Rejected. Claims
>through same source as 32901
>#35479. Wm. J. Jones and 4 children. Hilham, TN. Rejected. Claims through
>same source as 32901
>#35513. James D. Hooks and 5 children. Hilham, TN. . Rejected. Claims
>through same source as 32901
>#35514. Nancy S. Dickenson. Hilham, TN. Rejected. Claims through same
>source as 32901
>#35520. Polly A. Lee and 2 children. Hilham, TN . Rejected. Claims through
>same source as 32901
>#35611. James M. Brown. Hilham, TN. Rejected. . Rejected. Claims through
>same source as 32901
>#35612. John R. Brown and 2 children. Hilham, TN . Rejected. Claims through
>same source as 32901
>#35613. Mary F. Daily and 5 children. Hilham, TN . Rejected. Claims through
>same source as 32901
>#35614. Joe Ann Hawkins and 1 child. Hilham, TN . Rejected. Claims through
>same source as 32901
>#35615. Sarah Ogletree. Hilham, TN . Rejected. Claims through same source
as
>32901
>#35616. Josephine Hawkins. Hilham, TN . Rejected. Claims through same
source
>as 32901
>#35619. Jessie W. Carmack and 3 children. Hilham, TN. Rejected. Applicant
or
>ancestors were never enrolled. Does not appear that they were living within
>the Cherokee Domain in 1835-6 & 1846 as recognized members of the tribe.
>Claim not sufficiently established. Never lived with the tribe.
>#35620. Jessie W. Carmack, Jr. and 4 children. Allons, TN. Rejected. Claims
>through the same source as #34180.
>#35621. Eliza A. Masters and 5 children. Hilham. TN. Rejected. Daughter of
>#35619. Claims through same source.
>#35622. Tennessee Brown and 2 children. Hilham, TN . Rejected. Claims
>through same source as 32901
>#35610. William N. Brown and 5 children. Hilham, TN . Rejected. Claims
>through same source as 32901
>#35702. Joseph W. Carmack. Mayfield, TN. Rejected. Claims through same
>source as 34180.
>#35703. Lizzie Gibbons and 1 child. Hilham, TN . Rejected. Claims through
>same source as 34180.
>#35704. Samuel D. Carmack. Hilham, TN . Rejected. Claims through same
source
>as 34180.
>#35705. Grover C. Carmack. Hilham, TN . Rejected. Claims through same
source
>as 34180.
>#35706. William B. Carmack and 1 child. Hilham, TN . Rejected. Claims
>through same source as 34180.
>#35718. James. M. Carmack. Hilham, TN . Rejected. Claims through same
source
>as 32901
>#35719. Henry C? Carmack and 5 children. Algood, TN. Rejected. Claims
>through same source as 34180.
>#35720. Nancy S. Bost and 7 children. Hilham. TN. Rejected. Ancestors not
on
>rolls. No official testimony taken in this case, and statement of applicant
>does not establish a genuine connection with Cherokee tribe.
>#35721. Joseph A. Bost. Hilham, TN. Rejected. Son of 35720.
>#35722. Sarah V. Bowman. Hilham. TN. Rejected. Daughter of 35720.
>#35723. John W. Bost and 2 children. Hilham, TN Rejected. Son of 35720.
>#37646. Paul Neel and 3 children. Oakra, TN. Rejected. Claims through same
>source as 32901.
>#37649. Wm. J. Upton and 1 child. Hillham. TN. Rejected. Claims through
same
>source as 12673.
>#37651. Will T. Johnson, by Wm. Bowman, Sr. Butler's Landing, TN Rejected.
>Claims through same source as 12673.
>#37652. Wm. Bowman, Sr. and 3 children. Butler's Landing, TN Rejected.
>Claims through same source as 12673
>#37653 Ollie Bost and 2 children. Hilham. TN Rejected. Claims through same
>source as 12673.
>#37654. Joe Harvey Boman and 4 children. Butler's Landing, TN. Rejected.
>Claims through same source as 12673
>#37655. Wm. L. Boman. Hilham, TN. Rejected. Claims through same source as
>12673.
>#40637. George H. Neal and 5 children. Allons, TN. Rejected. Ancestors not
>on rolls. Does not prove genuine connection with Cherokee tribe. Applicant
>failed to appear to testify, also neglected to answer letter of inquiry in
>regard to family relationship.
>
>
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>My family coat of arms ties at the back... is that normal?
>
>Hi Dale,
Everyone line up in Overton County and said "I am kin to Charles Harmon,
Indian," all rejected, I have a notebook full of these claims they are good
because they give parents,granparents, children, brother and sisters, sad
note is all rejected, Charles Harmon was not Indian but all of these people
thought so. I have documentation to prove his family came from Germany so
they are German not Indian. Charles and his father Peter was in Greene
County Tn. before TN was a state. Some of my cousins think they are Indian
through Charles Harmon.
Bill has a line that came through Greene County and legend is the same in
his family as mine. Bonnie White is a friend, since I came to the mountain
I had lost contact with her. Agnes
Hi Dale,
This line does not tie into Ann Black, Ann wife of Jesse, their son John
married Mary Elam, grandaughter of Charles Harmon.
Agnes