Karen,
Here is the full email (below): Thomas' last name is Plummer. Do you have
a source for Sarah's death date of 1845? I would read it that Mary Alice
was living with Ephraim after Sarah's death, between 1845 to 1854. Do you
have Mary Alice's birthdate?
dale
From: Carolyn Gifford [mailto:hooleyann@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 3:48 PM
Subject: CECIL family
Hello Melissa,
I'm a descendant of Bazel Cecil a.k.a. Basil or Bazzel and Mary
Plummer. I don't have her surname as Prilleman but I know the marriage
record has her name as Mary Prilleman Plummer. Knowing that the surname
of an ancestor is passed down, I took Prilleman as this or that she was
briefly married to a Prilleman before she married Basil. My research
has her father as Thomas Plummer and his first wife, Jane Ruggles of
Lewis, Ky where Mary was born. She, John (her son), and another son,
James, Melissa Jane (dau) and a brother's family are buried in Young
Cemetery, Mercer, OH. I descend through their son, Thomas and Mary
Alice Carmack, daughter of Sarah Carmack (a twin) and unknown Wyandot
Indian. She was raised by her aunt Catherine Carmack Grunden and her
husband, James after her grandfather, Ephraim Carmack died. Have copy
of his will. The Plummers and Cecils lived next to one another. Have
copies of land records from B of Land Mgt. Mary Alice was listed as
Ephraim's heir and shared in some stock in a turnpike with her aunt
Caty. I have the obit and picture of Thomas in 1929 when he died, in
Sherman, TX on 10 November 1929 buried in Oak Grove Cemetery, Denison,
Grayson county, TX. He served in the 193rd Ohio Regiment in the Civil
War. Spent most of his time in a field hospital in Baltimore, MD.
Served towards end of war. Thomas was a house builder and farmer. He
and Mary had seven children and Mary died in child birth with her eighth
child in 1880 in Grayson County, TX. Grandpa was two years old at the
time. Said was named for his only Cecil cousin, Calvin. Have not
documented this but would assume this was John's child with Margaret
Hyler. (James died young) Do you have any of his descendants in a file
not in this data?
Sarah Elizabeth Cecil married Samuel Cluster also spelled Clester
and Cloister. I have recently made contact with this family and had
hoped to have more on them but the information is coming slow. This
family moved from Ohio to Kansas and then to Oklahoma. Two sons lived
in Colorado. Don't have all of the information.
I am so glad to find your data base because I spent hours looking in
Maryland and resources in DC area while living there for four years.
Never found a Bazel or Basil or Bazzell listed in any of the genealogies
I looked at while there.
Would love to share information with you.
The will of Thomas Plummer has Mary Cecil listed as his daughter.
Hope to hear from you.
Carolyn Gifford > Joyce Cecil>Calvin Cecil>Thomas Cecil>Basil Cecil.
email: hooleyann(a)hotmail.com
-----Original Message-----
From: K&C Stadler [mailto:pwcs@sssnet.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 8:11 AM
To: CARMACK-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: Sarah Carmack & Mary Alice
I've done a lot of research on this line as I am an Ohio Carmack, and
I've never seen this story. Sarah died at age 22 in 1845. Ephraim died
in 1854. If the Grundens didn't take the daughter in until after Ephraim
died, what happened to her in between those years? James & Catherine had
a daughter Mary A. Grunden who was born in 1838 but Sarah would have
only been 15 at that time, which is possible, but the Grundens had
children on a regular basis (1832, 33, 35, 36, 38, 40, etc.)
What is Thomas' last name? I can look for him & see what I find.
Karen Carmack Stadler