Bill,
Your cemetery research, I am sure, is quite helpful to those descended from Isaac
Carmack, 1816, son of Levi, 1791, and Elizabeth (Peters) Carmack. Thanks for giving the
directions to the cemetery. I live in Lexington and hopefully, I can make time to take a
drive to that vicinity. I descend from Isaac's brother, Enoch, born 1836.
I have been curious about the Peters line of ancestors, and not long ago received the
list for that lineage. Naturally, living near Daniel Boone National Forest and growing up
with the history of Daniel, my eyes perked when I saw the name Boone in Elizabeth's
ancestry. It was there! So, those of you descended from Levi and Elizabeth, you are also
descended from Daniel Boone's younger brother, Samuel, who is buried in a small church
cemetery in the DB National Forest, near Lexington, KY.
Cousin Pat
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From : wcwiseman@highstream.net[mailto:wcwiseman@highstream.net]
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Subject : RE: [CARMACK] Jacob Carmack 1840 / Elizabeth Chadwell 1837 graves found! Madison
Co. Ky.
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Surnames: Carmack, Spicer, Chadwell, Wiseman, Hale, Redmond, Stamper
Classification: Query
Message Board URL:
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CiH.2ACIB/354
Message Board Post:
16 July 2006 – Sunday
In Search of Jacob Carmack:
Today I spoke these words – “Hello, Great Great Grandmother!”
And a minute later I said, “Hello, Great Great Grandfather!”
And part of a GREAT mystery (at least for me and my family) has been solved.
I was speaking to long dead Reverend Jacob Carmack (1840-1900) and his wife Elizabeth
Chadwell (1837-1923).
Jacob was son of Isaac Carmack 1816-1862 and both fought at battle of Mill Springs
-Somerset, Ky. Isaac died there... both Confederate soldiers...
I was standing at their graves – in a small hilltop cemetery about 7 miles south of Bybee,
Kentucky – I went down the Brassfield-Bybee road at Bybee (off Route #52, the Richmond to
Irvine Road], drove on past Dodd road another 1 ½ miles to Panola Road and turned left
down Panola Road another 1 ½ miles (past the Brassfield Baptist Church on the left) to
find the hilltop graveyard on the left.
The cemetery is gated and locked – but the gate is easy to slip thru if you are less than
3 feet wide. I do not know the name of the cemetery.
Their graves are at the very back of the property, extreme right, as you enter the gate
and turn right. Elizabeth’s grave is marked facing you as you walk towards it, but Jacob’s
much smaller stone (on her left) is engraved on the other side.
Elizabeth’s stone is in very good shape and all engraving is legible. Jacob’s stone is
mostly legible; except for an area near top that obviously has several words engraved into
it, enclosed by a rectangle…I could not make out anything.
His stone is deteriorating badly.
When I faced Jacob’s stone where I could read the engraving I noticed another relative
(SURPRISE) to his right – I believe it says Isabell, wife of Jesse Spicer - and she died
young at 21 in 1898. The stone is in bad shape. I haven’t checked yet, but I think Isabell
is Jacob and Elizabeth’s daughter, one of the many sisters to my g-grandma Susan Jane
Carmack(1869) Spicer. Checked, and YEP… Isabell is Susan Jane’s sister, and I have her
listed as “married to unknown Spicer”…
And I haven’t checked Jesse Spicer’s relationship to me yet, but I think he’s my g-grandpa
Wm Spicer’s brother…(Yep – born 1870 – so the unknown Spicer isn’t unknown anymore! He’s
son of Samuel Spicer 1838 and Eliza Stamper 1842 )… then on to the right of Isabell are
two other stones, pretty much totally worn away, but I think I see Rachel xx on one and
Ester XX on the other (XX means some character I can’t decipher)… the rest of the stones
are just too worn away, although much writing is apparently upon them…
The VIEW from the highest point in the cemetery is breathtaking! I can understand why it
was a chosen place…
I only found these graves due to a most important clue given by Tony (Carmack) Root (great
Carmack researcher) which indicated that Jacob Carmack (1840) was “an elder” of the
Drowning Creek Baptist Church in Madison Co. Kentucky and died in March of 1900 – so I
assumed he would be buried at the church’s graveyard.
I have been searching for the last couple weeks for his final resting place.
Drowning Creek separates Madison from Estill County. I have several relatives who live
near the area.
So another important clue was gleaned from relative Todd Maupin’s uncle - that the current
Panola Baptist Church was at one time named Drowning Creek Baptist, and also the church’s
old cemetery was on a hill before you reached the actual church…
In fact, I never went farther down the road after finding the cemetery – so I didn’t even
see Panola Baptist Church. I think it probably is only a hundred or so yards out of sight
down the hill.
So – Jacob buried his daughter Isabell, on that hill, in 1898 while an elder of the
Drowning Creek Baptist Church… and only two years later he would die and be buried to her
left… then in 1923 when Elizabeth, Jacob’s wife and Isabell’s mother died, she was buried
to the left of Jacob…
There may be more of the family in there – as the two stones to the right of Isabell are
virtually unreadable.
This has been like a detective story - no one in my family knew anything about Jacob or
wife - only that Jacob was a preacher... and supposedly a Cherokee Indian one, at that...
the preacher part is true...
Would like to attach pictures: don't know how...
Elizabeth(Chadwell) Carmack - extreme back/right of cemetery. Jacob's small stone to
her left and engraved on opposite side.
Elizabeth Carmack #1
Elizabeth Carmack #2
Elizabeth and Jacob Carmack - misaligned footstone for Jackob?
Rev. Jacob Carmack #1
SAYS:
"Rev. Jacob Carmack
Born
Feb 15, 1840
Died
Apr 14, 1900"
Isabell - wife of Jesse Spicer (just to right of Jacob Carmack)
Elizabeth, Jacob, and Isabell - left to right.
Elizabeth Chadwell Carmack tall white stone rear right.
Hope this is interesting and helpful to all!
Yer Cuz,
Bill Wiseman
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