On 30 Sep 02, at 8:08, Judy French wrote:
Date forwarded: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 07:31:51 -0600
From: "Judy French" <judyschool(a)msn.com>
Subject: Re: Louis Carmack(1806 Tn) Descendants - Missouri
Date sent: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 08:08:44 -0500
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Judy
I have some information on Issac Greer and Miranda. Her name
was Miranda J. Thompson, daughter of William Thompson and wife
Susan. Issac Greer died and was burried beside trail in Il. 1860.
Book "Pulaski County Obituaries 1902-1952"
Obit: Greer, Maranda J- b.Overton CO Tn- July 6 1827 d. June 14
1918 m. 1847 Isaac Greer (children 4 listed by name) obit date:
June 20 1918
1860 Pulaski Census
William Thompson 61 VA
Susan 60 VA
Miranda 33 VA
Phebe A. 26 VA
Carroll 21 VA
James 19 VA
Sarah 16 VA
Emeline 11 VA
Elizabeth 9 VA
William 6 VA
Susan Grier 11 VA
Margaret Thompson 4 IL
Abstract of Probate, Pulaski Co., MO.
Thompson, William
H. Isaiah (Tenn), GeorgeC., James A., Maranda Greer, Phoebe,
Sarah A., Martha E.
Adm. Susan Thompson
10 Oct 1866
As I have found people kept using first one name and then their
second name.
Three of the children of Issac and Miranda are;
1. William Carroll b 12 Jul 1854 in TN
d 24 May 1943
m Elizabeth Payne 14 Apr 1872
2. Sarah Susan b. 10 Jul 1849
d. 21 Nov 1918 Crocker Cem.
m. Henry Carmack
3. Martha bc 1852 (1880 Census with Mother)
4.?
My line is William Carmackof Pulaski Co., Mo brother of Lewis.
Mary Ann
Pat,
The Pulaski Co. Carmack's are my line. I've been working on them for
about 12 years. I have all of Lewis' children and grandchildren and Ancil
is not in the line. Lewis, son of Henry and Susan Greer Carmack died as a
small child. Susan was the daughter of Isaac Greer and Miranda Unknown.
Henry died when he was only 26 years old. After his death, Susan married
a second time to James Columbus Brown.
I wish I could be of more help.
Judy Carmack French
----- Original Message -----
From: Patricia Welch
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 7:05 PM
To: CARMACK-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Louis Carmack(1806 Tn) Descendants - Missouri
Dear List:
Could someone write to me that is working on LOUIS CARMACK - MISSOURI. The
e-mails in the archives are out of date. I would like to discuss the
Carmacks in the Missouri Census 1850 - 1930. I need more info on his
grandchildren.
I've been going over the information in the Carmack rootsweb archives and
trying to put together the families. I've gone through the Missouri
census and soundexes 1850-1930, so have a good collection, but am sure
I've still missed some.
The family I am trying to locate was on the 1900 Wayne Co. Missouri
census, and I think he may have been a descendant of Lewis Carmack of
Pulaski Co. Missouri.
Cedar Creek Township, Wayne Co. Mo. 1900
#73
Ancil Carmack, Dec 1862, 37 Mo.
Caroline, April 1862 Mo (WHITCHURCH)
Carrie J. Aug 1894, 6 Mo
James W., Mar 1889 11 Mo
Louis E. April 1859, 5 Mo
Jesse M, Oct 1897, 3 Mo
Cedar Creek Township, Wayne Co. Mo. 1910
#161
Whitchurch, John R. 76 Il-Tn-Il
Mary, 62 Tn-Tn-N.C.
CARMACK, Lewis,grandson, 16, MO-Mo-MO
Ancil and Caroline Caramack, appear to have died by 1910, and Louis is
with his grandparents on his mother's side. I only find a James Carmack
living with Chumplr, Delter in the soundex and can't find Caroline, or
Jesse.
Cedar Creek Township, Wayne Co., Mo. 1930
#69/70
Carmack, Jesse M. 31- Mo-Mo-Mo
.........Dixie 31, Mo-Mo-US (Mary Dixie WALKER)
.........Nadeen, 9 Mo-
.........Nareen, 5 7/12 Mo
.........Elvis 3/4/12 Mo
.........Jewell 5/12
GREER,Ogden, 61 Il
.......Susan, 55 Mo
.......Jesse, 35 Mo
.......Allen, 22 Mo
.......Henry, 18 Mo
.......Everett, 12 Mo
Carmack, Annie 30, dau.
.......Louis 35, son-in-law, 35
-------------------
Ancil Carmack, b. 1862 Mo. should show up on the 1870 census, and if he
does, he must be using another name, like James A. or Lewis A.. I noticed
that Henry Carmack, son of Louis, married Susan GREER--on the 1870
Pulaski census and they have a Lewis 11/12. In 1880, Susan is with
Marinda GREER and a son, William age 8.
I just think Ancil belongs in this family somewhere, and hope you might
have more on the children. Here is what I have pieced together:
Descendants of Lewis Carmack
l) Rebecca Cagle 2) Louise Stuart
1. Lewis Carmack was born Mar 16, 1806 in Tennessee, but not in Warren
Co.,
Died 12-20-1872. He was probably the son of John Carmack of Bledsoe Co.,
Tennessee. He married Rebecca Cagle about 1828 in Bledsoe County. They
left Tennessee sometime after 1854 and were in Pulaski County, MO by Jan
1, 1858 when Rebecca died there.
Lewis and Rebecca were neighbors and friends of Joseph Payne and his wife,
name unknown. Joseph Payne's family left Tennessee at the same time as
Lewis and Rebecca; however, the Payne's settled in Ballard Co., Ky along
with Lewis' son's John and Charles who had married Mary Polly Payne,
Joseph's daughter, on Oct 4, 1854 in Van Buren Co., Tn.
It is unknown if Lewis remained in Ballard Co for a short time or whether
he went on to Pulaski Co., where his brother William and sister Sarah had
settled sometime before
â¦â¦â¦..+ Rebecca CAGLE, TN 7-19-1809, Died 1-1-1859, dau of Charles
and Susanna Cagle. Co. The following are Lewis Carmack and Rebecca Cagle
children: 1850 Census
â¦.2. According to the 1830 census for Warren Co., TN, Lewis and Rebecca
had a female child under 5 yrs of age. This female child is also in the
1840 census; however, after that there is no other record of her.
..2. Susan Carmack, b. Jan 31, 1831 in Warren Co., TN, d. May 30, 1911 (80
yrs 3 mo & 30 ds) in Crocker, Pulaski Co., MO. (death certificate and
cemetery record) She married John Mulkey Payne who was the brother of
John Payne and son of Joseph Payne
â¦â¦â¦â¦.+John Mulkey PAYNE, bro of John Payne and son of Joseph Payne
â¦.2. John A. Carmack, b. May 12, 1833 in Warren Co., TN, d. Jul 16, 1931
(88 yrs, 2 mo, 4 ds) in Crocker, Pulaski Co., MO. John married Thursey
Ann Ramsey in Bardwell, Ballard Co., KY. Sometime after 1877, John and
Thursey moved to Pulaski Co., MO. (death certificate and cemetery record)
â¦â¦â¦..+Thursey Ann RAMSEY 1900 Pulaski Co. Census John Carmack, May
1823, 67 Tn Thirsey A., Mar 1848, 52 Ky
â¦.2. Charles C. Carmack, b. Jan 25, 1835 in Warren Co., TN, d. Sep 23,
1898 in Pulaski Co., MO. As stated before, Charles married Mary Polly
Payne. Charles and Mary were still in Ballard Co., KY in 1870 but
sometime before 1880 they had moved to Pulaski Co., MO.
â¦â¦â¦â¦..+Mary Polly PAYNE
..2. Lucy M. Carmack, b. Jan 10, 1838 in TN, d. Jul 22, 1916 (78 yrs 6 mo
& 12 ds) in Pulaski Co., MO. Lucy married James L. Bates in Pulaski Co.,
MO. (cemetery record and obituary) â¦â¦â¦â¦.3. James L. BATES
2. Jesse Allen Carmack, b. Mar 22, 1840 in Warren Co., TN, d. Jun 17,
1907 in Pulaski Co., MO. Jesse married Martha A. Decker on Feb 11, 1868
in Pulaski Co., MO. (cemetery record, obituary and civil war pension
record) â¦â¦â¦â¦..+Martha A. DECKER 1880 Pulaski Co. Carmack, Jesse
40, Tn Martha, 39 Ky Laura 17 Mo Willie 11 Mo Charlie 10 Mo Albert 6 Mary
5 Delly 2
1900 Pulaski Co Census
Jesse A. Carmack, Mary 1840, 60 Tn
Martha
Maude A. April 1885, 15, Mo
BRYAN, Ethel (granddaughter), Oct 1893 6 Mo.
â¦â¦â¦â¦..3. Laura Carmack, abt 1863 Mo (is this name right?)
â¦â¦â¦â¦..3. Willie Carmack, b. abt 1869 Mo
â¦â¦â¦â¦..3. Charlie Carmack b.. abt 1870 Mo
â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦.3. Albert Carmack, b. abt 1874 Mo
â¦â¦â¦â¦..3. Mary Carmack, b. abt 1875 Mo.
â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦.3. Delly Carmack, b. abt 1878
â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦2. Maude A. Carmack, b. April 1885
..2. Elizabeth Carmack, b. Jul 16, 1843 in TN, d. Jan 7, 1923 in Pulaski
Co., MO. Elizabeth married David Payne, brother of Mary Polly Payne.
(cemetery record) â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦..+ David PAYNE, bro of Mary Polly Payne
â¦.2.William Henry "Henry" Carmack, b. May 17, 1847 in TN, d. Nov 22,
1872 in Pulaski Co., MO. went by Henry and L. William Carmack William
married Susan Greer in 1869 in Pulaski Co., MO. (cemetery record and
obituary of Susan â¦â¦â¦..+ Susan GREER, married 1869 Pulaski Co
After Rebecca's death, Lewis married a second time to Louisa Stuart
Conner, a widow with 7 children. â¦â¦â¦..+ Louisa Stuart Connor (widow
with 7 children) 1860 Pulaski Co. Census Carmack, Lewis, 54, Mo
â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦Louisa, Ky â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦.Jesse 19 Tn
â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦..Elizabeth 17 Tn â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦..Henry 14 Tn
â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦.William 12 Tn â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦..Miranda 1 Mo Conner,
Elizabeth 17 Mo. Conner, Averilla 6 Mo
1870 Census Pulaski Co Census
Carmack, Lewis 64, Tn
â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦..Louise 50, Ky
â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦..L.W. 22
Conner, Eulla?
Conner, Elizabeth 25
â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦.Miranda 11
â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦.Louisa 11
â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦.3. Miranda Carmack, Child of Lewis and Louisa was Miranda
"Mandy" Carmack, b. 1858 in Pulaski Co., MO, d. 1894 in Pulaski Co., MO.
Miranda married James Meredith Elkins, Oct 1876 in Pulaski Co., MO.
(cemetery record and James' obituary â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦.+James
Meridith Elkins
Your help appreciated.
Pat Welch
St. Louis Missouri
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Morgan-Brent-Wyatt-Baxter-Hutto-Watson-Moore-Harmon-Brent-Ross
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