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Classification: Query
Message Board URL:
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East Elfers Cemetery - New Port Richey - located on bailee Drivem 1/4 mile west of Rowan Road
Found these Carmacks listed in the "Cemeteries of Pasco County", FLorida book, Volume 1. This book is located in the Zephyrhills, Pasco County, Florida library.
Michael E. Carmack -
Row 9
tombstone 309
Birth April 20, 1964
Death Jan 11 1966
Allen p Carmack
Row 6
tombstone 130.0
Birth 1932
Death 1994
I have no connection to these people.
I wanted to provide an update on the Carmack DNA Project. The project began
in August 2003 and slowly we have risen to 10 pioneering members with 8 test
results received, with the last 12 markers for the 9th due anytime.
Here is a link to my web page where you can get additional project details
and actual results: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~carmack
From these results we clearly show 2 distinct unrelated groups:
Group 1 contains 3 participants who match each other (2 match 25 of 25
markers with the 3rd matching 24 of 25 markers). This group does not have a
known common ancestor. Thus far they can be traced to North Carolina.
Group 2 contains 7 participants who match each other (5 match all 25
markers, 1 only tested 12 markers, and another is waiting on the additional
12 marker results to come in thus a full match determination cannot be made
for those with only 12 markers - though the likelihood is high that it would
match as well). Group 2 traces back to Cornelius' 1681 line.
Some of the conclusions that can be drawn at this time are:
1. Jesse Ann Carmack 1797 is definitely related to Cornelius 1681. We
cannot identify that Jesse's father is John Carmack 1773 of Bledsoe Co, TN
or even Jesse C Carmack 1769 but we can determine that he is from the same
line with Cornelius Carmack 1681 solely due to this DNA testing project.
2. Frederick Carmack 1841/45, Furney Carmack 1810, and Samuel B. Carmack
1808 share a common ancestor which was previously unknown. All three of
these ancestors can be traced into NC. So far there has been no paper
genealogy to link these 3 individuals, only through this DNA testing
project. Hopefully these researchers can combine their efforts and find a
paper trail between these ancestors or even match with new test participants
and finally solve their mystery.
3. The Samuel B. Carmack DNA results match 23 and 24 of 25 markers with
several different Surnames (primarily Beatty)! Family Tree DNA provides the
following information to help understand what this could mean:
If you compare the 12 or 25 marker result to someone else who does
not have the same surname, but the scores match, you are most likely NOT
recently related. When we use the term recently related, we are talking
about a time frame within the last 1000 years or 40 generations, a time
depth that accommodates the earliest known use of surnames. According to
current theories, we are all related. The degree of relatedness depends on
the time frame, or the number generations between the participants and the
common ancestor.
4. There was another exact 25 marker match with Group 2 that has been very
interesting. This researcher does not have the Carmack surname and when he
submitted his DNA for testing was not even looking for a Carmack result. He
was looking into the Native American DNA. However, his results match all 25
markers with those of us from the Cornelius line. I communicated with him
and inquired about any Carmack relationships. I received some interesting
family history details and got his permission to relay it to the list. He
stated that he was not aware of the Carmack DNA Project when he submitted
his DNA samples for test. John Jackson Carmack was married to his GG Aunt
Mary Elam. Mary's sister Patience Elam was his GG Grandmother, she was never
married. His Great Grandfather was Patience's son born out of wedlock. He
had heard that John Jackson Carmack was the father as well as being uncle by
marriage. He added that the Elam sisters were almost pure blood Cherokee
Indians. This story has been in his family for as long as he could remember,
but kept quite. This does not prove that John Jackson was the father of
Patience's son but it does prove that his son shares common Y-DNA with John
and all the lineage back through Cornelius. This was an exciting find for
him.
What's next:
We need to continue to recruit more participants. It should be pointed out
that all descendants of Cornelius should match on all markers. Markers do
randomly change which is why there is a need to test more than a few from
the Cornelius line in order to establish the baseline to compare others to.
We need to reach those researchers who cannot connect to Cornelius. We
should be able to connect these various line to each other through DNA
testing. In addition, we need to find a way to reach Carmacks from overseas
to participate in the project as this may finally lead to making a
connection outside of the USA. Does anyone have any ideas on how to reach
other Carmacks (or related spellings)?
Here is the link to the Family Tree DNA website for anyone who would like to
join the Project.
http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=F28551&special=True
Remember, we need Carmack males (or related spellings) as the Y-DNA is only
passed from father to son. We have obtained the following group rate for
our project:
The cost of the 12 marker test is $99 for our study participants. This test
narrows down the time to most recent common ancestor (MRCA) to about 42
generations. The more specific 25 marker test (16 generations to MRCA) is
$169 and the even more specific 37 marker test (8 generations to MRCA) is
$229. All require the swabbing of the inside of a cheek to collect cells
which are mailed back to the company in a mailer provided.
If anyone has any questions please let me know.
Dale Carmack
Carmack DNA Project Group Administrator
Here are some additional Carmack posts from the Pulaski Co. Missouri list.
Dale
Source: MOPULASK-L(a)rootsweb.com
From: s.millerdunn(a)comcast.net
Subject: Mrs. William Foot (nee Carmack), Obituary
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Surnames: Carmack, Foot
Classification: Obituary
Message Board URL:
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UNB.2ACI/1014
Message Board Post:
Mrs. William Foot
Mary Carmack was born at Bardville, Carlisle, Kentucky, May 4, 1878, and
died at her home near Crocker, Missouri, January 17, 1916. She was the
daughter of Mr. And Mrs. John Carmack, old and reputed settlers of Pulaski
county. She came to Pulaski county with her parents in 18_ _? And had
since made her home in this vicinity.
On July 8, 19_ _ ? she was married to William Foot and to this union five
children were born. The two eldest children a daughter and a son, Nora and
George, preceded her to the better world.
She is survived by her husband, three children—Luther, Thursey and
Sell—her father and mother, and two brothers—Ivy and William
Carmack—numerous other relatives and a host of friends.
She united with the Christian church here at the age of nineteen and has
lived a faithful and consistent Christian life since.
Funeral services were held at the Christian church on Tuesday afternoon,
January 18, at three o'clock and interment was made in the Crocker cemetery.
The bereaved ones have the sympathy of their many friends.
Published in The Crocker News, Pulaski County, Missouri on Thursday, January
27, 1916.
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From: s.millerdunn(a)comcast.net
Subject: Floyd Hammack; Grandma Greer, In the News, July 13, 1916.
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Surnames: Hammack, Greer
Classification: Query
Message Board URL:
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UNB.2ACI/1023
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Boy Breaks Leg
Floyd, son of Mr. And Mrs. C. L. Hammack, met with a serious misfortune
about Tuesday afternoon, which resulted in his ankle being broken. He was
helping haul hay from the Rayl farm when the wagon capsized. He jumped but
in some manner a ladder struck the ankle, breaking the bone. He was brought
to town and Dr. Orrick set the broken bone. Indications are that no serious
complications will set in and that Floyd will suffer no permanent injury.
Published in The Crocker News, Pulaski County, Missouri on Thursday, July
13, 1916.
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Celebrates 89th Birthday
On Thursday morning, July 6th, several of the neighbors and friends with
well filled baskets fathered at the home of Mr. and Mrs. J. C. Brown, the
occasion being Grandma Greer’s eight-ninth birthday. For several years
past it has been the custom of her friends to celebrate the day with her.
Grandma came to Missouri in 1851 and has lived on the same farm for the past
48 years.
Those present were J. R. Smith and daughter Madria, Mr. And Mrs. Silas
Wilkes, Mr. And Mrs. John Carmack, Mrs. H. Roam and children, Mrs. Ed
Howard, Mr. And Mrs. Ed Crawford and family, Mr. And Mrs. Eb Bryant and
children, Thos. Stockton, Mr. And Mrs. Joe Sears, Mrs. Chas. Singleton and
children, Otis Greer, Ivy Carmack, Snowden Roam, Mabel Carmack, and Helen
Smith.
Published in The Crocker News, Pulaski County, Missouri on Thursday, July
13, 1916.
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Source: MOPULASK-L(a)rootsweb.com
From: s.millerdunn(a)comcast.net
Subject: Clem Carmack, Anna Odom, Marriage in the News, 1918
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Surnames: Burgess, Carmack, Odom
Classification: Marriage
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Married
Clem L. Carmack, of Crocker, and Miss Anna F. Odom, of Hancock, were married
at the Fred Burgess home Sunday afternoon at one o'clock, Rev. A. R. Wallace
officiating.
Published in The Crocker News, Pulaski County, Missouri on Thursday, March
2, 1918.
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From: s.millerdunn(a)comcast.net
Subject: Pulaski County Boys to (Military) Camp, Newspaper Article, 1918
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Pulaski County Boys to Camp
Thirty-six Pulaski county young men entrained here Monday on their way to
training camp at Camp Dodge, Iowa, this being the largest squad which has
gone to camp from this county. Those going in this call were:
>From Waynesville: Robert F. Robbins, William Neely Helms, Bannon Smith
>Brown, Edward W. Cook
>From Crocker: Guy La Fune Rowden, James Blaine Lawson, Alfie Otto
>Sears, James Albert McMillian, Truman James Long, Manford Lewis Long,
>Everett Claud Carmack, Harry Smelcer
>From Dixon: Harrison Baker, John Hill, Richard H. Strickland, William
>J. Davis, William Miskel Carrol, Samuel S. Elkins, John McNally, Perry
>Klosterman
>From Richland: Charles Buel Wilson, Homer Henson, Ancil Harlin Church
>From Swedeborg: Evar Leonard Larson, Homer Gilbert Topping
>From Bloodland: Everett O. Graves, John Henry King, Volley Virgil
>Carrol, Herman Schubert
>From Franks: Chester La Count Borcaw
>From Hancock: Tester John Gustin
>From Cookville: William E. Brown
>From Wharton: Roy Lester O'Quinn;
>From Ladd: Harry McKinley Roberts
>From Hawkins: David Herman Engle, Harry Freemont Reed, who was in Des
>Moines, was ordered to go direct to Camp from there and Thomas Joseph
>Dodson, was working at Willard, Ohio, and owing to bad railway
>connection did not reach Waynesville until Tuesday morning, so he
>signed up and left for Camp Tuesday night, paying his own fare. Guy
>Rowden, who recently returned from St. Johns, Kan., enlisted and was
>sent as an alternate for one young man who was to have been with the
>boys, and Albert Porter Dible was transferred to a Pennsylvania local
>board, he being at Williamsburg, Pa.
The citizens of Waynesville gave the boys a royal farewell, serving ice
cream and cake to them on the court house lawn Monday afternoon. A great
throng of friends and relatives was at the station in Crocker Monday
afternoon and saw the boys safely on their way to serve under the Stars and
Stripes.
Published in The Crocker News, Pulaski County, Missouri on Thursday, May 30,
1918.
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Source: MOPULASK-L(a)rootsweb.com
From: s.millerdunn(a)comcast.net
Subject: John & Thursa Carmack Family Reunion, Newspaper Article, 1918
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Surnames: Akeman, Beasley, Brown, Bryan, Carmack, Crawford, Hopkins, Payne,
Reed, Walters
Classification: Query
Message Board URL:
http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UNB.2ACI/1042
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Family Reunion
Sunday May the 19 the relatives of uncle John and Thursa Carmack gathered at
their home one mile southeast of Crocker to spend the day with those that
have been absent from this place for some time. Uncle John being the oldest
of a large family of children they thought it best to spend the day with him
and his family there being 62 present in all as follows:
Mr. and Mrs. Irving Hopkins of Los Angeles, Calif., Mrs. Elizabeth Payne of
Crocker, Willie Carmack, Mr. and Mrs. Chas. Carmack and son of Hartshorne,
Okla., Albert Carmack and family and Mrs. Hudson Reed of Waynesville, Elbert
Bryan and family of Crocker, Boy Carmack and Cecil Carmack and family of
Crocker, Mr. and Mrs. Lige Payne and family and Mrs. Clyde Beasley and
children of Swedeborg, Mr. and Mrs. Frank Payne and son, Mrs. Emma Payne and
family, Frank Walters and two daughters, Mrs. J. C. Brown, Mrs. Ed Crawford
and children and John Payne of Crocker, Andy Akeman of Swedeborg.
At the noon hour a table was spread with good things to eat too numerous to
mention and after that was over the pictures were taken. The rest of the
day was spent visiting. Willie Carmack of Hartshorne, Okla., has been gone
from this place for the past eleven years and Mrs. Hopkins the past seven
and there has been many changes in that time. They are brother and sister
of Albert Carmack and of Chas. Carmack, who just a short time ago left and
located in Oklahoma. XXX
Published in The Crocker News, Pulaski County, Missouri on Thursday, May 23,
1918.
Here are a couple of Pulaski County, Missouri Carmack posts that might be of interest.
dale
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From: s.millerdunn(a)comcast.net
Subject: Mrs. Frank Walters, 50th Birthday Celebration
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Surnames: Walters, Peterson, Duncan, Trent, Carmack, Brown, Bennett, Allen, Dill
Classification: Birth
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Pleasantly Surprised
A very pleasant time was had at the beautiful home of Mr. And Mrs. Frank Walters, about one mile south of Antioch church, on Saturday, January 16th, when a host of relatives and friends met there with well filled baskets to celebrate Mrs. Walters, 50th birthday. Although taken completely by surprise, Mrs. Walters received her guests with great cordiality and everybody soon felt very much at home. About 1:00 o’clock, dinner was announced—and such a dinner your correspondent might write pages trying to describe the dinner and then he would be compelled to say with the Queen of Sheba, “The half was never yet been told.â€
But that dinner did show how Mrs. Walters had trained her daughters and some other mother had trained Mrs. Walter daughters-in-law in the art of cooking, for the dinner was gotten up by Mrs. Walter children aided by a few neighbors.
After dinner Brother Dill made a brief address and closed with a prayer. At 3:30 the crowd began to disperse, wishing Mrs. Walters many happy returns.
Besides the family, those present were: Rosa Peterson, husband and five children; Mr. And Mrs. Fletcher Walters and child; Mr. And Mrs. Oscar Walters and child Maggie Duncan and child; Mrs. Mateely Trent and child; Uncle John Carmack, and Aunt Thirza; Aunt Polly Brown; John and Clyde Peterson of Webster Grove, Mo., Uncle Peter Peterson; Mr. And Mrs. Rene DeMoslin ( or DeMoelin?) and four children; Miss Myrtle Bennett; Mr., and Mrs. Wm. Allen of Miller county and Brother Dill.
Published in The Crocker News, Pulaski County, Missouri on Thursday, January 21, 1915.
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Source: MOPULASK-L(a)rootsweb.com
From: s.millerdunn(a)comcast.net
Subject: Guy Mace and Clella Carmack, Marriage in the News.
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Surnames: Carmack, Mace
Classification: Marriage
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Mace-Carmack
Last Sunday, January 24, Mr. Guy Mace and Miss Clella Carmack, both of Crocker, took snap judgement on their many friends and relatives, and drove to Swedeborg where they were married that afternoon at 2:00 o’clock by Rev. L. B. Cox.
While the intentions of these young people had been surmised for some time, it also came as a surprise.
They are well known to us all, both having been born and raised close to Crocker.
The News joins a host of friends in wishing them a happy prosperous life.
Published in The Crocker News, Pulaski County, Missouri on Thursday, January 28, 1915.