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Ricki,
Sorry to take so long in responding. I do not have an official record with
the marriage date for Cornelius and Guein. It was given to me a long time
ago and I have not verified it as yet. Maybe someone on the list can help.
I have seen Cornelius Jr in many places listed as Cornelius Sr's son so I
suspect it is a true relationship and that William was the 2nd son instead
of the 1st. When Cornelius Jr died, his Estate was inventoried in Cecil Co,
MD on 20 Sep 1733. William & Cornelius were listed as next of Kin
(Abstracts of The Inventories of The Perogative Court).
dale
-----Original Message-----
From: Ricki Prewitt [mailto:rprewitt@telapex.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 9:29 AM
To: CARMACK-D(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Roll Call
I am the daughter of Nora Emmaline Carmack, b. 1921 MS, m. 1936 to Barney
Thomas.
She is the daughter of Dewey Webster Carmack. b. 1989, d. 1946., m. Giffie
Mae Doud.
Dewey Webster was the son of John Thomas Carmack,b. 1858, d. 1908. m. Nancy
Emmaline Kennedy.
John Thomas was the son of George Washington Carmack, b. 1823, d. 1882 in
Tuscumbia, AL. m. Elizabeth Anne Yates, 1842.
All above information is verified by family bible.
We believe George Washington to be the son of William Carmack, b. 1784, per
Dan Buck's notes in Mormon Library. William Carmack married Rosanna
Wheeler.
William Carmack was the son of Cornelius Carmack, b. 1750, d. 1820, m. Mary
Cookson, 1778.
William Carmack was the son of John Carmack, b. 1720,d. 1810, m. Elizabeth
Barton.
John Carmack was the son of Cornelius Carmack, b. 1681 Frederick, MD. , d.
1749
in Manacocy, VA. M. Guin Correm in 1715. (All information comes from my
cousin Paul T. Carmack, who has been researching the Carmack line for many
years)
Dale, the marriage date disagrees with information in your home page. Paul
doesn't list Cornelius Carmack, Jr. so the 1715 date fits in better with the
birth dates of the children. When you add Cornelius in as the first son, a
problem is presented with my dates. It seems unusual for 13 years to have
elapsed before the birth of the first child per your date, but it would also
have been unusual for Cornelius to have waited until age 34 to marry. What
verification do you have for marriage date?
Ricki Prewitt
e for marriage date?
Ricki Prewitt
I intended to post a copy to the list but messed it up...this is what I
intended to post. After seeing Tony Roots list of errors in the Carmack
book, I am wondering if everyone would post their known errors, important
omissions & plagiarism's so we can sort out fact from fiction. Cardin
Cardin Carmack
ccarmack(a)peganet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Carmack [mailto:dcarmack@us.hsanet.net]
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 1999 10:58 AM
To: ccarmack(a)peganet.net
Subject: RE: Carmack book
Looks fine except that I would leave off the last sentence. Not everyone
got the CD and I'm not sure if he even sent them out yet. I can tell you
After seeing Tony Roots list of errors in the Carmack book, I am wondering
if everyone would post their
known errors, important omissions & plagiarism's so that we could sort out
facts from fiction. Cardin
Cardin Carmack
ccarmack(a)peganet.com
Last Dec., Agnes Jones wrote, in response to an inquiry about William
and Sarah Carmack of Henry Co. TN, that the 1860 Henry Co. Census shows
Elizabeth Rainey 57, and Esther 55, were living with William 75, and
Sarah 69. John Carmack of Bledsoe Co. lived on Rainey's Turnpike.
According to the 1840 Census John Rainey along with Jesse Carmack lived
in that area. She wondered if there might be a connection between these
families. A John Carmack was living with William Carmack in 1830 and
was identified as his father in the Probate Record after John's death in
1833. Could this John be the John of Bledsoe Co.? Does anyone have
more information on John of Bledsoe Co.? Jim
Thanks Karen, I do not recall if I responded to this or not. I am in the
process of creating a web page for the roll call data and thought I would
comment on this.
I have seen this record. I believe that Jesse C. Carmack and Ann Black did
have a son named Jesse born about 1815/1820 and this is who is referred to
in the record about legitimizing the sons. However, this Jesse is not he
same as my Jesse Ann Carmack who married Mary Ann Boyd. By the way, I have
never seen the middle name Ann in any documentation, just word of mouth
sources.
This record is also the only official source I have seen of Jesse C & Ann
Black's son Jesse. I have never seen any other information on this Jesse.
Does anyone have any other records on him? If so please pass on to the
list.
thanks,
dale
-----Original Message-----
From: K&C Stadler [mailto:pwcs@sssnet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 7:16 PM
To: CARMACK-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: Carmack Roll Call request
> My line:
> Jesse Ann Carmack, 1797 - died 1868 Burleson Co, TX (Father may be John
Carmack born 1773 - died Bledsoe Co, TN)
> Marquess Wallon Carmack; born 1864 Washington Co, TX- died 1948 Christian
> Co, KY, m Amanda Dearmond
> Earl Golden Carmack; born 1900 Christian Co, KY - died 1945 Christian Co,>
KY, m Lora Cardin
> Cardin Wallon Carmack; born 1922 Christian Co, KY m Wanda Dennis, my
> parents.
>
> Dale Carmack
>
Is there another generation between Jesse b. 1797 & Marquess b. 1864? I
thought Marquess was the son of Jesse, Jr. & Mary Ann Boyd?
I found the following while surfing for Carmacks:
TN State Library & Archives
Acts of TN 1796-1830
Jesse Carmack of Overton Co had 3 sons legitimatized in 1822:
James F. - last name changed from Black
Jesse - last name changed from Black
John - last name changed from Black
The website is: www.state.tn.us/sos/statelib/pubsvs/c-2.htm
______________________________
I was asked a while ago by Tony Root to type and submit to the Carmack List
his changes & corrections to the Carmack Genealogy Book by Dr. Peckham.
Tony is not currently available via email. Any comments on these should be
submitted to the list and I will see that they get forwarded to Tony. I
looked at these changes and they seem to make sense (I am not trying to
state that I agree, or disagree, with any of these but that if I read his
comments they make sense for someone to understand what is in question).
Hopefully they make sense to anyone else who is interested.
Page 149:
- Jacob Carmack b Feb 25, 1828 VA
M 1st Sarah Fultz Feb 4, 1851 Claiborne Co., TN
M 2nd Lydia Burns, circa 1855 Owsley Co., KY
Page 196:
- John Carmack b 1827 VA
Children Polly & Mary are the same person. In other words John &
Isabelle had 1 son William & 1 daughter Mary "Polly".
Isabelle Burns Carmack M 2nd to James Barrett on 8/25/1856. They were
in Owsley Co Census 1860 & 1870 then they moved to Clay Co. We do not know
if John died between 1850 & 1856 or if he left Isabelle.
- Jacob Carmack b Feb 25, 1828 VA
M 2nd Lydia Burns, circa 1855 Owsley Co., KY
M 1st Sarah Fultz Feb 4, 1851 Claiborne Co., TN, No Children born in
this marriage
Page 197:
- Evan Carmack b Aug 1, 1832 TN
Have never seen any records of him being in Owsley Co., KY. Have seen
other researchers records showing him in Bell Co., KY then going back to
Claiborne Co, TN.
Page 254:
- Levi Carmack note - he made & played the Fiddle (remove the statement
about head stones)
- James "Jimmsey" Carmack made Head Stones for people on Buffalo Creek
Owsley Co & Newfound Creek Clay Co.
- Change Lee County to Owsley Co (my note - I assume this is for Elihu
Carmack)
Page 292:
- Elihu Carmack M Sally Belle McIntosh Mar 10, 1910, Dau of James McIntosh &
Elizabeth Caudill from Breathitt Co., KY.
Sally Belle was b Oct 9, 1897 Breathitt Co, KY, d buried Lee Co, KY
Page 293:
- On the top of the page this Mary Ann is Mary Alice b 1889, d 1892. She
did not marry William Bishop as she was 3 years old when she died see page
255.
- To correct Pg 293 & have it correspond with the story below it see page
198 for proof.
- On page 293, above Mary Ann Carmack. Abraham & Alexander need to be
changed as follows: replace Abraham with Isaac 7 & change Mary 9 to Mary 8
- For Mary Ann birth put May 1842 Death Feb 7, 1908 M William Bishop Jr 1865
- William Bishop Jr b March 1826
- Write in Note near Mary Ann 8 (Carmack) Bishop saying see Page 252.
- On page 252 Near the bottom put a note saying see page 293
- If you would like to write in where this family lived, it is Pooter Branch
NewFound CK, Clay Co, KY.
Dale and List
I've been trying to tie up a few loose ends in my Carmack information
and decided to see what I could find out about Nicholas Painter, the man
who paid for Christopher Carmack (McCarmack's) transportation to the
Colonies.
He was a wealthy landowner in Maryland. On October 25, 1677, Lord
Baltimore granted him 1,640 acres in what was then Baltimore County,
Maryland. At that time Baltimore County included parts or all of what
became Hartford County, Cecil County, Frederick County, and Carroll
Counties in Maryland. This Plantation was called "Andover". In 1861 he
received a patent for 1,400 acres in Cecil County, Maryland. This tract
was called "Friendship". He also owned a plantation which consisted of
1,000 acres called "The Grove" which might have been in Dorchester
County, Maryland.
I also wanted to check my records concerning Daniel Carmack
(Carmake/Cormack). The early Carmack researchers thought he might be
Cornelius' father. According to the Carmack Book, Christopher Carmack
was the first Carmack in America and that is an error. There was only a
footnote mentioning Daniel and he was here quite some time before
Christopher. Daniel was brought to the Colonies in 1654 by Col. John
Matron, who settled in West Moreland County, Virginia. Daniel was
probably a bond servant. I found two other mentions of Daniel in
Virginia, the last one being in 1663. (Wonder if he could have had
anything to do with the North Carolina Carmacks?)
While I was searching for my information concerning Daniel, I came
across some information in the P.H. Carmack data that I had overlooked.
My Dad always told my sister and myself that we were Scotch Irish and
Pennsylvania Dutch and were descended from two brothers who imigrated to
the colonies. The Scotch Irish I believed but the Pennsylvania Dutch-No
Way. Well, I was wrong, that's exactly what we are. But back to the
subject. The story about the two brothers was also known to the early
researchers although they thought that the brothers were the two men who
married the Wolfe sisters, Evan and John Carmack. Of course, we now
know that isn't correct, but has anyone else heard that story in their
Carmack line? Just curious.
I've also been doing some historical research about the times and places
where these people were and for anyone who is interested, the first few
chapters of the book "Maryland-A History" by Carl Bode is really
interesting.
Judy Carmack French
Dale and List,
John Carmack, son of Cornelius and Margery Carmack was born in 1773.
Cornelius and Margery had a Family Bible. Their son Cornelius referred
to it when trying to verifiy his age when applying for his Revolutionary
War Pension. He stated that it was in the possession of his
brother-in-law, Henry Livingston.
I decided to try to find out what happened to that Bible in hopes of
finding out more about John. I posted a message on the Livingston list
on Genforum and sometime later received a reply from a man who is a
descendant of Henry and Susannah. We traded information and he was
kind enough to send me a copy of Henry's application for his pension and
with it are two pages of the Bible. One has Livingston information and
the other Carmack.
They are difficult to read, but you can read the years of birth. It show
Cornelius being born in (can't read day) January 1759; William the 5th
day of January, 1761; Joseph the 11th day of April 1763;
Jane on June 7th 1765; Sarah on August (can't read day) 1767. This is
the end of the first page. It was written on the bottom of the last
page of Revelation "The End of the Apocrypha".
As you can see Joseph was born in 1763 so John couldn't have been.
I wonder if we contacted the National Archives if it would be possible
to get a copy of the other side of the page? Dale, you're in the area.
Maybe you could do that. According to the gentlemen who sent me the
information, he believes the Bible no longer exists.
Just for informational purposes: Susannah Carmack was Henry's second
wife. His first wife Mary Ferris was killed by Indians, leaving Henry
with one child. Also, Henry was refused a pension for his service in
the American Revolution. He was only 14 when he substituted for a
brother who became ill and had to leave his outfit. Just recently, that
refusal was overturned and Henry is now being recognized for his
patriotic service.
Judy Carmack French