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of the following on those lists. The following was posted on another list I
subscribe to. I got a chuckle out of it so I thought I'd pass it on. My
apologies in advance (sincerely) if anyone is bothered by this Off Topic
post.
Question: How many list subscribers does it take to change a light
bulb?
Answer: 1,375
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1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list that they did it
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light bulb could have been changed differently
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bulbs
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discussion and its inappropriateness to this mail list
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PUNCTUATION-L about changing light bulbs be stopped
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bulbs and, therefore, the posts **are** relevant to this mail list
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buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this
technique, and what brands are faulty
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3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this
list, which makes light bulbs relevant to this list
33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including all
headers and footers, and then add "Me Too"
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handle the light bulb controversy
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5 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ
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it there
143 votes for the list LIGHT_BULB-L
1 to point out that the correct number should be 1,376
1 to wonder if the person asking that makes it 1,377
6 to say the inability to deal with numbers shows the sorry state of
education under the Republican/Democratic regimes
7 to argue on the educational budgets under Democrats/Republicans
3 to blame Hillary Clinton
18 to flame the others
1 new subscriber to ask what the original question was and could someone
bring her/him up to date
5 to forward/cross-post the discussion to other lists
1 list owner to intervene.
I received a copy of a page from a book (the title was not provided) that
has an entry for Lewis Carmack who is listed as having fought in the Indian
Wars, Cherokees and Seminoles, 1836-1838. This was Appendix, page 228, 229.
There is another familiar "Bledsoe Co" name on the list, David Cagle.
dale
Thanks, I have a picture of the memorial showing his name so now I know
where he fits in the lineage.
dale
-----Original Message-----
From: K&C Stadler <pwcs(a)sssnet.com>
To: CARMACK-L(a)rootsweb.com <CARMACK-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Friday, March 12, 1999 11:26 AM
Subject: Harold Milton Carmack
>The Harold Milton Carmack who was serving on the USS Arizona and died at
>the age of 19 in the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was the son of
>Oscar Walter & Mary Darnell Carmack; grandson of Franklin Everett &
>Matilda Bradley Carmack; great-grandson of Timothy & Barsheba Leckrow
>Carmack; and great-great-grandson of John Wesley & Susan Carr Carmack.
>This would make him a third cousin of Norm Carmack. Thanks to Eleanor
>Carmack Rogers of Colorado for the genealogy.
>
>
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>Research: What I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing.
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Hope this helps some folks.
>This was forward by "Jean Dalrymple" to another list that I belong to and
>thought that the list might enjoy it!!
>
>>The following is paraphrased from the National
>>Genealogical Society's "American Genealogy: A Basic Course":
>>In-Laws: terms like father-in-law, mother-in-law, etc. had the same meaning
>>as they do today, which is a kinship by marriage. However, they may also
>>have had different meanings. Father-in-law could refer to a step-father,
>>son-in-law to a stepchild, etc.
>>Cousin: The term "cousin" was once used generally to indicate almost ANY
>>DEGREE OF RELATIONSHIP BY BLOOD OR MARRIAGE OUTSIDE THE IMMEDIATE FAMILY.
>>VERY EARLY IN AMERICAN HISTORY THE TERM WAS USED TO REFER TO NEPHEW OR
>>NIECE. When you see the word cousin used in early records, you will need to
>>do more research to clarify the relationship between the two people.
>>Nephew: The terms nephew and niece were not in common use in the colonies
>>until before the mid-eighteenth century (i.e. 1750's). The term cousin was
>>used to denote this relationship. In rare instances, the term "nephew" was
>>used to mean grandson or granddaughter because the word comes from the
>>Latin term for "grandson" or "nepos." During this early period, "nephew"
>>was used for males and females.
>>Brother: This term was used very generally and in addition to its obvious
>>meaning, could denote a brother-in-law, a husband of a sister-in-law, a
>>half-brother, a stepbrother, or even a colleague within the church.
>>"My now wife." This term is sometimes found in a will and may, as is
>>often assumed, indicate the testator had a former wife, but this is not
>>necessarily so unless he is referring to children by a first wife and
>>children by his current or "now" wife. When the term is used WITHOUT
>>reference to children, it more usually means the testator intends the
>>bequest for his current wife and not any subsequent he may have.
>>Senior and Junior: Terms to denote two men with the same in the same
>>community, regardless of any relationship. This could be father and son,
>>Uncle and nephew, or two men not related at all. Upon the death of the
>>"Senior" the junior could be dropped or if another, younger person had the
>>same name, Junior became Senior, etc.
>>Natural Son or Natural Daughter: indicates a blood relationship as
>>distinguished from a relationship by marriage or adoption. Sometimes it
>>could denote an illegitimate child, though it was more common to refer
>>to such as "my base son" or "my bastard son". In some instances, "my
>>natural child" may indicate children by a first wife as opposed to
>>children
>>by a current wife.
>>
>>Aliases: This term could mean one of several things. An orphan may have
>>used his stepfather's surname in addition to his own. A married man may
>>have taken the surname of his wealthy father-in-law. One son in a family
>>may have taken his mother's maiden name, especially when inheriting property
>>from her family. One branch of the family may have used an alias to
>>distinguish it from other branches in the area where the name was common. A
>>person may have used an alias to distinguish himself from several uncles and
>>cousins with the same name. This problem was not unusual in large families
>>before the use of middle names adopted. In some cases, an alias indicated
>>illegitimacy. Because of all the possible reasons for the use of an alias,
>>do not assume the reason until you have done further research.
>>Given Names: Although you cannot count on it, it was common for the two
>>eldest sons to be named for their grandfathers and two eldest daughters to
>>be named for their grandmothers. Don't be confused by finding two children
>>with the same given name in the same family. The name of a deceased child
>>may have been given to a subsequent child. IN GERMAN ANCESTRY it was common
>>for ALL sons to have the first name Johann and all daughters to have the
>>first name Anna or Maria. The children were known by their second names.
Mike Becker
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The Harold Milton Carmack who was serving on the USS Arizona and died at
the age of 19 in the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was the son of
Oscar Walter & Mary Darnell Carmack; grandson of Franklin Everett &
Matilda Bradley Carmack; great-grandson of Timothy & Barsheba Leckrow
Carmack; and great-great-grandson of John Wesley & Susan Carr Carmack.
This would make him a third cousin of Norm Carmack. Thanks to Eleanor
Carmack Rogers of Colorado for the genealogy.
Ruth,
It would help if you supplied some dates and places to help see if anything
matches. I only have one Pelam Carmack, as follows:
>From 1870 census records, Gibson, Co. Tennessee
*O. [*P.] P. Carmack, age 27, Ann, age 25; Mary age 2; S. B., age 61, Mary
age 27 [52]
( 27 as shown was most likely mis-copied from the original copy) & [William]
Frank, age 17.
Children of "Pel" & Ann R. Carmack
I. Ella (Mary?) b. 1869 Tenn.; married? May have died young.
II. Edward b. m. Lydia Burns of White Co., Ark
III. Samuel A. b. April 9, 1873 m. Dora Loy Cook (LayCook)
IV. Alice b. m. Harry Clark
V. John b.
VI. Maude b. m. Nat Mansfield, lived at Cominte, Ark.
VII. Buck m. Florence -------; he died in his 30's and she lived to her 80's
VIII. Ebben b. Never married
Pelam's father was Samuel B. Carmack:
Descendants of Samuel B. Carmack
1 Samuel B. Carmack Born: 1809 in ,,NC
. +Mary G. Born: 1814 in ,,NC
2 Robert Johnathan Carmack Born: 1840 in ,,NC
2 Pelam Poinset Carmack Born: 1843 in ,,NC
2 John W. Carmack Born: 1846 in ,,TN
2 Willoughby Carmack Born: 1848 in ,,TN
2 William Frank Carmack Born: 1853 in ,,TN Died: 27 September 1919 in
Jacksonville, Duvall Co., FL
.... +Demetra Avery Born: 1860 Died: 1939
2 Margaret Carmack Born: 1857 in ,,TN
2 Mary A. Carmack Born: 1859 in ,,TN
I do not know who Samual's father is. Now the real question, does this
Peklam sound like your ancestor? Maybe someone else on the list can help.
dale
-----Original Message-----
From: JFeild(a)aol.com [mailto:JFeild@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 8:30 PM
To: dcarmack(a)us.hsanet.net
Subject: Re: RE. Sarah Carmack Riddle
I am a beginner, My name is Ruth Anne CARMACK Feild. My father was
Norman
Phillip Carmack Sr. His father was John Carmack and his father Pelam B.
Carmack.
grandpa John's wife's name was Ruth (Baldwin), G-grandfather Pelam's wife
was
Ann
R>?? Do you know anything of her? I am at the bottom working my way up.
Thank you,
Ruth
My grandfather worked for the railroad, anyinfo.?
Thanks for the information. It looks like Sarah may be another sibling to
Lewis, William, and Jesse.
Here is what I have on John Carmack's father Cornelius:
1 Cornelius Carmack Born: 18 June 1736 in ,Frederick Co, MD Died: 18 July
1824 in Livingston, Overton Co, TN
. +Margery Jane Evans Born: 1736
2 Cornelius Carmack, Jr Born: 08 January 1759 in ,Frederick Co, MD Died:
28 July 1848 in ,Overton Co, TN
.... +Lettia
2 William Carmack Born: 05 January 1761 in ,Frederick Co, MD Died: 24
September 1851 in ,Lee Co, VA
.... +Mary Catherine Hartsock
*2nd Wife of William Carmack:
.... +Mary Yeary
2 Joseph Carmack Born: 11 April 1763 in ,Frederick Co, MD Died: November
1798 in ,Robertson Co, TN
.... +Mary McMillan
2 Jane Carmack Born: 07 June 1765 in ,Frederick Co, MD Died: 1825 in
,Washington District, TN
.... +Thomas Henry
2 Sarah Carmack Born: August 1767 in ,Frederick Co, MD Died: 1792
.... +Hugh McGhee
2 Jesse C Carmack Born: 1769 in ,Frederick Co, MD Died: 1834 in ,Overton
Co, TN
.... +Ann Black Born: 04 September 1793 in ,Elbert Co, GA Died: 1853 in
,Overton Co, TN
2 Margery Carmack Born: 1771
.... +John Grimes
2 John Carmack Born: 1773 in ,Frederick Co, MD
.... +Mary Dougherty
2 Elizabeth Carmack Born: 1775 Died: Abt 1864 in ,Robertson Co, TN
.... +James Henry Born: 1766 in ,,VA Died: 1826 in , Montgomery Co., TN
2 Susannah Carmack Born: 1777 in ,Frederick Co, MD Died: 1852
.... +Henry Livingston Born: 01 March 1764 Died: 22 May 1834 in ,Overton
Co, TN
I do not have the full 1830 or 1820 census for Bledsoe Co, TN. The only
sections I have are 1830 & 1840 which show Jesse. However, the 1830 section
that I have does have three Riddle's. Two of them immediately follow John
Carmack, their names are difficult to read but here goes:
Following John Carmack are Johnson Riddle (1 male under 5, 1 male between
20-30, 1 female between 15-20) and John Riddle (2 males between 15-20, 1
male between 20-30, 1 male between 60-70, 1 female between 10-15, 1 female
between 60-70). Then a little farther down the page is a Thomas Riddle ( 1
male under 5, 1 male between 15-20, 1 male between 40-50, 1 female under 5,
2 females between 5-10, 1 female between 10-15, 1 female between 15-20, 1
female between 30-40).
So, do you think that this is the same Thomas Riddle that moved to MO,
husband of Sarah Carmack?
dale
-----Original Message-----
From: MaryAnn Farley
Sent: Monday, March 08, 1999 10:32 PM
To: dcarmack(a)us.hsanet.net
Subject: RE. Sarah Carmack Riddle
Dale
I am responding to the questions you have ask Eve. I have the information on
Sarah Carmack who married Thomas Riddle. I just had forgot about it. It came
from a book by Don Vincent, "Sharing The Past". Don has done alot of
research on the early pioneers of Pulaski Co., Mo. I do not know where he
got his information. He has a number of books out on the early people in
Pulaski, but I have not been able to get a hold of them.
Here is why I believe the information to be correct. First Thomas Riddle
died before 1837. His wife Sarah (CARMACK) had remarried to a James
Sutherland and has had a son Daniel Sutherland by 1837. James dies 1853 and
William Carmack is the administrator on the probate record. The court house
burned down in 1903 in Pulaski leaving only a few probate records.
Sarah has had one child by Thomas Riddle, A daughter named Caroline Riddle.
Sarah dies before 1860 and Carloine has the children Sarah had by James
SutherlandI.
As far as Joel Carmack is concerned, I dont' beleive he is related. On the
1850 census he is listed as Joel Carmack born In Indiana, age 24. He has a
wife Sarah born in Indiana, age 19. I feel he is too young to be a brother
and he is from the wrong area.
Could you send me what you have on John Carmack' fathers family. I have some
, but don't know how correct it is.
I always wondered why William Carmack came into Pulaski Co. MO. For along
time I could not tie him with anyone. I was sure he did not travel to
Missouri alone and now I feel he came in with his sister and her family.
Do you have the 1830 census of Bledsoe County or 1820 to see if ther are any
Riddles there.
Sarah Carmack Riddle's Daughter was born about 1830 and on all the census
she states she was born in Missouri. So the question is was Thomas Riddle
still in Bledsoe County in 1830 or traveling to Missouri? They are not on
the Pulaski Co. 1830 census.
Mary Ann
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Trlsgranny(a)aol.com [mailto:Trlsgranny@aol.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 2:56 PM
>To: CARMACK-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Lewis
>
>
>We are still trying to find father of Lewis Carmack, B.3-16-1806. I've
just
>received a note that states Lewis MIGHT have had two brothers and sister;
>William ca 1808; Sarah ca 1812; and Joel ca 1818. William was said to
have
>married Sarah Turpin; Sarah Carmack married Thomas Riddle and Joel married
a
>woman named Sarah. They had a daughter, Missouri Carmack who married Ervin
>Hensley. Does anyone know anything about any of this?? My main object is
>still the parents of Lewis. Thanks for your time and help. Eva
>
>
>==== CARMACK Mailing List ====
>My family coat of arms ties at the back... is that normal?
>
>
>==== CARMACK Mailing List ====
>Genealogists never die; they just lose their census.
>
The following is paraphrased from the National
Genealogical Society's "American Genealogy: A Basic Course": I got
this information from the DAVIDSON List.
In-Laws: terms like father-in-law, mother-in-law, etc. had the same
meaning
as they do today, which is a kinship by marriage. However, they may also
have
had different meanings. Father-in-law could refer to a step-father,
son-in-
law to a stepchild, etc.
Cousin: The term "cousin" was once used generally to indicate almost ANY
DEGREE OF RELATIONSHIP BY BLOOD OR MARRIAGE OUTSIDE THE IMMEDIATE FAMILY.
VERY EARLY IN AMERICAN HISTORY THE TERM WAS USED TO REFER TO NEPHEW OR
NIECE.
When you see the word cousin used in early records, you will need to do
more
research to clarify the relationship between the two people.
Nephew: The terms nephew and neice were not in common use in the
colonies
until before the mid-eighteenth century (i.e. 1750's). The term cousin
was
used to denote this relationship. In rare instances, the term "nephew"
was
used to mean grandson or granddaughter because the word comes from the
Latin
term for "grandson" or "nepos." During this early period, "nephew" was
used
for males and females.
Brother: This term was used very generally and in addition to its
obvious
meaning, could denote a brother-in-law, a husband of a sister-in-law, a
half-
brother, a stepbrother, or even a colleague within the church.
"My now wife." This term is sometimes found in a will and may, as is
often
assumed, indicate the testator had a former wife, but this is not
necessarily
so unless he is referring to children by a first wife and children by his
current or "now" wife. When the term is used WITHOUT reference to
children,
it more usually means the testator intends the bequest for his current
wife
and not any subsequent he may have.
Senior and Junior: Terms to denote two men with the same in the same
community, regardless of any relationship. This could be father and son,
Uncle and nephew, or two men not related at all. Upon the death of the
"Senior" the junior could be dropped or if another, younger person had
the
same name, Junior became Senior, etc.
Natural Son or Natural Daughter: indicates a blood relationship as
distinguished from a relationship by marriage or adoption. Sometimes it
could
denote and illegetimate child, though it was more common to refer to such
as
"my base son" or "my bastard son". In some instances, "my natural child"
may
indicate children by a first wife as opposed to children by a current
wife.
Aliases: This term could mean one of several things. An orphan may have
used
his stepfather's surname in addition to his own. A married man may have
taken
the surname of his wealthy father-in-law. One son in a family may have
taken
his mother's maiden name, especially when inheriting property from her
family.
One branch of the family may have used an alias to distinguish it from
other
branches in the area where the name was common. A person may have used
an
alias to distinguish himself from several uncles and cousins with the
same
name. This problem was not unusual in large families before the use of
middle
names adopted. In some cases, an alias indicated illegitmacy. Because
of all
the possible reasons for the use of an alias, do not assume the reason
until
you have done further research.
Given Names: Although you cannot count on it, it was common for the two
eldest sons to be named for their grandfathers and two eldest daughters
to be
named for their grandmothers. Don't be confused by finding two children
with
the same given name in the same family. The name of a deceased child may
have
been given to a subsequent child. IN GERMAN ANCESTRY it was common for
ALL
sons to have the first name Johann and all duaghters to have the first
name
Anna or Maria. The children were known by their second names.
Eva,
I still have not heard anything on proving who Lewis's father is. Recently
it has been thought that Lewis, Jesse (aka Jesse Ann) and William were
brothers and potentially sons of John Carmack of Bledsoe Co. TN. The above
mentioned William was said to have married Sarah Turpin. I have never heard
of the other brother and sister you mentioned (Sarah and Joel). Could you
send me any additional details you might have on this? Where did this
information come from?
thanks,
dale
-----Original Message-----
From: Trlsgranny(a)aol.com [mailto:Trlsgranny@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 2:56 PM
To: CARMACK-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Lewis
We are still trying to find father of Lewis Carmack, B.3-16-1806. I've just
received a note that states Lewis MIGHT have had two brothers and sister;
William ca 1808; Sarah ca 1812; and Joel ca 1818. William was said to have
married Sarah Turpin; Sarah Carmack married Thomas Riddle and Joel married a
woman named Sarah. They had a daughter, Missouri Carmack who married Ervin
Hensley. Does anyone know anything about any of this?? My main object is
still the parents of Lewis. Thanks for your time and help. Eva
==== CARMACK Mailing List ====
My family coat of arms ties at the back... is that normal?
Hi Cousins,
The George Washington Carmack that married Elizabeth Yates is different
from the one that discovered Gold, while doing Carmack Cousins everyone
worked on trying to find the parents of George Washington Carmack of AL
but was not able to find any connection, I had ment to put what we put in
Carmack Cousins on for everyone so thanks for doing that.
Thanks, Agnes Jones
Are you talking about the G.W. Carmack that discovered gold in the Yukon? He
married an indian woman I believe. If you are there is a book written about
him.. I'll try and find it.
Shannon Carmack
Tim,
I don't have any information on George's parents but I do have some
information on he & his wife & their 9 children that I found in the
Carmack Cousins Newsletters Vol. 3.2 & 3.3 & 5.1.
George was born May 7, 1823 in Tennessee, died 9/29/1882. Elizabeth was
born 11/8/1826 in Alabama, died 8/1/1904 in Baldwyn, Lee Co, MS.
Children: John Thomas, Martha Jane, Rhoda Caroline, Joseph Marion, Mary
Ann Elizabeth, Caldonah Artimisse, William Arron, George Jr., Milissa
Emiline - some dates available.
Joseph Marion & Sarah Carmack had 7 children if you are interested in
them.
Hope this was helpful.
Karen Carmack Stadler
Sorry Tim, I do not seem to have anything on this GW Carmack or Elizabeth
Ann Yates.
good luck,
dale
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Carmack [mailto:topcar@home.com]
Sent: Friday, March 05, 1999 9:43 AM
To: CARMACK-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: George Washington Carmack
I'm trying to locate any information on George Washington Carmack.
All I have is that he was born in 1823 and married Elizabeth Ann
Yates. Around Alabama I believe. Any help is greatly appreciated...
Tim Carmack
==== CARMACK Mailing List ====
A single fact can spoil a good genealogy.
I'm trying to locate any information on George Washington Carmack.
All I have is that he was born in 1823 and married Elizabeth Ann
Yates. Around Alabama I believe. Any help is greatly appreciated...
Tim Carmack
This looks like a great opportunity to get together and meet our Carmack
cousins. I know that Pat and Leesel have been working hard to get this
organized - it should be a great time. I hope to attend as well.
dale
-----Original Message-----
From: LEESEL98(a)aol.com [mailto:LEESEL98@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 11:02 PM
To: CARMACK-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: CARMACK COUSINS REUNION!!!!
ATTENTION
CARMACK COUSINS
TO: THE DESCENDANTS OF
LEVI CARMACK & ELIZABETH "BETTY" PETERS
WHAT: The first CARMACK COUSINS REUNION
WHERE: Historic Boone Tavern Hotel, Berea, Kentucky
http://www.berea.edu/Publications/Boone-Tavern.html
WHEN: Weekend of APRIL 17, 1999
WHO: Anyone who is a descendant of the 13 children of
Levi Carmack and Elizabeth Peters
COST: $12 per person...includes lunch and expenses
FOR DETAILS AND INFORMATION on cost and local motels/rates/phone #s,
CONTACT:
Pat ONeal (e-mail add: peon(a)icx.net)
334 Marshall St.
Clinton, TN 37716
Phone: 423-457-2260
COME JOIN US for a delighful history-making event!! Share family stories
and come prepared for a festive occasion including lunch, a program, and a
possible
side trip to Mill Springs Battle Civil War site on Sunday. Pass the word
along to other Carmack Cousins!!
RESERVATIONS must be made by APRIL 1, 1999.
If you are a descendant of any of the following, please plan to attend!!
Kissy b. 1812
Katie b. 1814
Isaac b. 1816
Mary Ann b. 1820
William b. 1822
Levi Jr b. 1824
Abraham b. 1826
John b. 1827
Jacob b. 1828
Elizabeth b. 1830
Evan b. 1832
Martin b. 1834
Enoch b. 1836
This will be a GREAT and EXCITING time, so YALL COME!
An interesting note:
THE LEARNING CHANNEL (TLC)
may be covering our gathering
on their daily television special, REUNION
Look for added information to follow!!!
==== CARMACK Mailing List ====
I only work on genealogy on days that end in Y.
Re: "Carmack Cousins" Reunion at Boone Tavern Hotel, Berea, Ky.
I GOOFED!!!!!!! The price of luncheon listed on the 'form' previously
sent should read ($12.00 per person). Sorry! That was my very first
mistake!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pat O'Neal
We are still trying to find father of Lewis Carmack, B.3-16-1806. I've just
received a note that states Lewis MIGHT have had two brothers and sister;
William ca 1808; Sarah ca 1812; and Joel ca 1818. William was said to have
married Sarah Turpin; Sarah Carmack married Thomas Riddle and Joel married a
woman named Sarah. They had a daughter, Missouri Carmack who married Ervin
Hensley. Does anyone know anything about any of this?? My main object is
still the parents of Lewis. Thanks for your time and help. Eva
ATTENTION
CARMACK COUSINS
TO: THE DESCENDANTS OF
LEVI CARMACK & ELIZABETH "BETTY" PETERS
WHAT: The first CARMACK COUSINS REUNION
WHERE: Historic Boone Tavern Hotel, Berea, Kentucky
http://www.berea.edu/Publications/Boone-Tavern.html
WHEN: Weekend of APRIL 17, 1999
WHO: Anyone who is a descendant of the 13 children of
Levi Carmack and Elizabeth Peters
COST: $12 per person...includes lunch and expenses
FOR DETAILS AND INFORMATION on cost and local motels/rates/phone #s, CONTACT:
Pat ONeal (e-mail add: peon(a)icx.net)
334 Marshall St.
Clinton, TN 37716
Phone: 423-457-2260
COME JOIN US for a delighful history-making event!! Share family stories
and come prepared for a festive occasion including lunch, a program, and a
possible
side trip to Mill Springs Battle Civil War site on Sunday. Pass the word
along to other Carmack Cousins!!
RESERVATIONS must be made by APRIL 1, 1999.
If you are a descendant of any of the following, please plan to attend!!
Kissy b. 1812
Katie b. 1814
Isaac b. 1816
Mary Ann b. 1820
William b. 1822
Levi Jr b. 1824
Abraham b. 1826
John b. 1827
Jacob b. 1828
Elizabeth b. 1830
Evan b. 1832
Martin b. 1834
Enoch b. 1836
This will be a GREAT and EXCITING time, so YALL COME!
An interesting note:
THE LEARNING CHANNEL (TLC)
may be covering our gathering
on their daily television special, REUNION
Look for added information to follow!!!
I was running through some information that I have not seen in a long time
and ran across this info on Samuel B. Carmack. I seem to recall someone
recently asking about a Samuel so I thought I'd put this out and see if it
helps or sparks interest. I have additional information concerning this
family if anyone is interested. The information was provided to me from
Jerry Sanner . Unfortunately the father of Samuel is unknown in this
document but his descendants are listed.
dale
- Samuel Carmack Family -
- of W. Tennessee & N. Little Rock, Arkansas -
1. Samuel B. Carmack
Samuel was born ca 1808, in the state of North Carolina. m. to a
Miss ------- Davis in, Edgecomb co. N.C. Mrs. Samuel Carmack inherited a
town lot from her father, in the village of Stantonburg, N.C. (now; Wilson
co. N.C.) and this land, that was willed to his wife, was sold. Wife
assumed died and Samuel Carmack married 2nd., Mary -----------
{Willoughby?) b. 1818, in North Carolina.
We can assume they migrated from NC to Tennessee around 1841/2. This family
is first found in middle Tennessee during federal census of 1850, living in
Coffey, co. In the court house of Coffey co. are no records of this family,
they could have been transient and were just there during the census year.
Later in the next census year of 1860, this family is found in the Hardiman
co. of West Tennessee {close to the border of Mississippi]. Again there is
no record of them in the court house.
Samuel finally settling in Gibson co. a} Samuel B. Carmack is found In
Gibson co., Tennessee, as well as the marriage record of P. P. & W. J.
Carmack; Also found in Gibson co., was record of a plantation belonging to
one Danial Carmack, and other Carmacks with the initials of: J.O. (John
O.); S.W. (Samuel W.); W. J., Avbles, W.T. & N.E. - S. W. Carmack is listed
as died Oct. 29, 1877 / May 13, 1899. (May of been two S.W. Carmacks). Now
some of these initials may be of the wives of Carmacks' but we have no other
record of P.P. (Poinset Pelam) except the marriage record of January 11,
1867 to Miss A. R. Flemming.
In the census record of 1870 for Gibson co. Tennessee, there are following:
*O. [*P.] P. Carmack, age 27, Ann, age 25; Mary age 2, / S. B., age 61, Mary
age 27 [52]
(Mary age is listed as 27 was most likely miss-copied from the original
copy) & Frank, age 17.
John O. Carmack sells 208 1/2 acres of land belonging to the tract of the
Daniel Carmack Dist. #8 in book Y page 699 18 Aug. 1871; Samuel Carmack's
old tract.
Children of Samuel & Mary Carmack
+2 I. Robert Jonathan b. 1840 North Carolina
+3. II. Pelam Poinset b. 1843 Tennessee
4. III. John W. b. 1846 Tennessee
+5. IV. Willoughby b. 1848 Tennessee
6. V. Samuel b. 1849 died young
+7. VI. William - {Frank) b. 1854 Tennessee
8. VII. Margaret b. 1857 Tennessee