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Author: levycastle1
Surnames: Davis, Carlisle
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Actually about to leave for RI to have lunch with my uncle. Will definitely speak to him about your Great Uncle Allison, so this will have to be short. I'm glad that JMC acknowledged John Abraham, but not glad he did not marry Caroline. Yes, it will be interesting to learn about the properties he willed to Caroline and John Abraham -- the KKK story is all too familiar, but very hard indeed when it touches family, even at my remove. I live in southern NH, and my brother Peter is in NYC. My cousins are all over, but most of my generation is in the east.I'll let you know the outcome from lunch today.
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Author: CassandraEDavis
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That's so funny about your Uncle Bruce and my Great Uncle Allison. They probably knew each other and were related! Small world. One of Allison's sons, also named Allison, still lives in Chicago along with his sons, their families and his daughter. Gordon, Allison Sr.'s other son, lives in NYC. Let me know what your uncle says when you talk to him. I'm interested to know if they knew each other.
I've only seen one photo of JMC and I remembered his red hair. Some in our family said he was Scottish and others said he was Irish (hence my confusion :).
Thank you so much for all this information. I'm really excited we connected! This is one side of the family we had such limited information on due to John Abraham's fall-out with his father. From how JMC wanted to pay for his schooling, left our family property and was willing to acknowledge John Abraham as his son, I've always had the impression that he was a good man. From what I understand, it was the fact that JMC wouldn't marry Caroline due to what John Abraham viewed as a race issue that created the wedge between them.
Interesting fact. One of the properties we received from JMC was a farm in Virginia (I swear we have the will somewhere...or maybe it's Caroline's. I live in Connecticut and my parents live in Phoenix. When I'm there for Thanksgiving I'll have to look for it). Anyway, the KKK chased all of the workers off the farm during my grandfather's lifetime. My great grandfather, John Abraham, tried to get a loan from the bank after this happened because what the KKK did caused a real ache for him financially. The bank wouldn't give him one for being "negro" and they had to sell the farm. My dad has a framed newspaper ad advertising the sale of the farm in his house. I remember my Grandfather and Great Aunt Dorothy talking about how they wanted to buy it back one day, but I think a developer got his hands on it at some point, so it no longer exists.
Anyway, I think the will we have lists some other properties that came from JMC that are in the D.C. area. In a few months I'll find it and let you know about them.
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Author: bcarlisle25
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Just stumled upon your message to tell you that I have a relative, Gladys Carlisle, that passed away in Los Angeles in 1977. I don't beleive she ever married though. her parents were Thomas Huston Carlisle and the former Mary Josephine Collins. She had a sister Blanche Genevier Carlisle.
Bill Carlisle
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Author: levycastle1
Surnames: Carlisle, Davis, Mandeville
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After Googling JAD, I found the Wiki pages on his his two sons, one of whom was your great grandfather, I have to assume. Accomplished is putting it mildly, as a description the careers of those two gentlemen. Allison Davis was at the University of Chicago at the same time my uncle, Bruce Howe, was there working with Robert Braidwood at the Oriental Institute, as an anthropologist for Braidwood's expeditions to north africa, Iraq, Iran and Turkey. My uncle is still alive and very alert at 97, and will be very interested in this when I see him at the end of the week.
Bright blue eyes, run in our family too -- I have them, as does one of my granddaughters and a grandson. JMC's descent was not Irish, I'm fairly certain, but English/Scots. I have photos of JMC, and we just uncrated marble busts of both JMC and Calderon Carlisle, that have been on the attic floor of the family house in RI we are in the process of selling. Caleron's bust is in street clothes, on stacked law books. JMC's is in Roman style, with a toga, and curled hair, but the facial features, sideburns and beard are all modern in style. My grandmother's memoir describes him as "a brilliant lawyer,and a charming person, small in stature with curly bright bronze hair and very dark blue eyes; a flair for languages; and a genius for friendships."
JMC's mother, Ann Mandeville lived with them for a long time, so she is your great great great grandmother too. Calderon was the only one of Emmeline's three sons to reach full maturity.
I've only just scrathed the surface of what I can tell you, and we need to think about the best way to go about this. I certainly would like as much as you can send my way.
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Author: CassandraEDavis
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Lol! Hi! Yes, we remained in the D.C. area for a long time. My Uncle is actually still there and is a lawyer living in Alexandria, VA. He's the only one left in the area now though. Any more information you have would be great :)
I don't know if this helps, but John Abraham Davis actually had some accomplished sons, one with his own black history month stamp and another who was Thrugood Marshal's head academic researcher in Brown vs. The Board of Education. If anyone wants the information for their history, I'd be happy to provide it. It's funny because many of us (my grandfather, second cousins twice removed, cousins, me, etc.) have these bright blue eyes, which I'm guessing may have been from Carlisle. He was of Irish ancestry wasn't he? I saw a picture at one time.
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Author: levycastle1
Surnames: Carlisle, Davis
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Thanks for the clarification on the sequence. Did your family remain in the DC area? Ours did for a long time, but are now all scattered. I was the last person to move away, in 2005. There are several people, in ,utilple generations in my family who are quite involved with family history, and who will be both fascinated and quite excited to know that your family exists. Let me know what I can do to get information to you.
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Author: levycastle1
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Hello cousin! I have tons more information for you, if you want more. JMC married a second time -- so his relationship with your great grandmother was either between Emmeline and #2, or after #2. We have a rather large extended family on the Carlisle side. I know that we would all be extremely interested to know about the Davises.
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Author: CassandraEDavis
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I should mention, it was after the death of his first wife.
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Author: CassandraEDavis
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Hi,
Sorry, I just saw these now. Sure - my interest in him is that he's my great, great grandfather. After the death of his wife, he had a relationship with his black maid, Caroline Gaskins Chin Davis, my great, great grandmother. They had two sons, one being my great grandfather John Abraham Davis. My great grandfather was upset with Carlisle for not marrying his mother, so he took his mother's last name instead of Carlisle's, although Carlisle was more than willing to still take care of his son (offered schooling and even willed some properties to my great, great grandmother). However, because he wanted nothing to do with Carlisle and took the Davis family name instead, it has been hard for me to track his family history.
Thanks for the information!
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Author: levycastle1
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You are most welcome. FYI, JMC and his mother moved from Alexandria, VA to Washington, DC around 1815. Christopher Carlisle (his father) was said to have held letters of marque during the war of 1812.
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Author: jerrypaasch
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Tracing the Carlisle family from Choctaw/Washington County,USA. Do not believe this is the same family line. Thanks for the info.
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Author: levycastle1
Surnames: Carlisle, MacLeod
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Happy to assist. James Mandeville Carlisle was my great great grandfather. He was the son of Christopher Carlisle and Ann Mandeville Carlisle. His first wife was Emmeline MacLeod, and their son, my great grandfather Calderon Carlisle, followed his father into the practice of Law in Washington, DC. After the death of Emmeline, he did remarry. He is buried in Rock Creek Cemetery in Washington, DC. May I ask what your interest is in JMC?
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Author: Filosena
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did Mary chamliss have a son john carlisle born before 1780
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Author: t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX
Surnames: CARLISLE
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CARLISLE Larry D honor our hero who died in Vietnam - Wall section 58W
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If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is not my family.
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Author: Lace_Lynch
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CARLISLE, Leona F. "Betty" 85, of Springfield, Ohio died at 3:02 a.m. Friday, September 3, 2010 in Community Hospital. She was born in Springfield, Ohio on January 25, 1925 the daughter of Clarence M. and Mary G. (McCulley) Williams. She worked in the Billing Department of Community Hospital for many years, was a member of the Review Club and a graduate of New Moorefield High School.
Survivors include her son and partner, John "J.C." Carlisle and Michael Mathias of Los Angeles, California; three grandsons, Scott, Jack and Spencer Carlisle; sister-in-law, Virginia Binkley of Springfield, Ohio and many special nieces and nephews.
She was preceded in death by her husband, John in 1996, son, Scott in 1988, brother, Courtney Williams and sister, Eleanor Schmid.
Visitation will be from 4-7 p.m. Tuesday in CONROY FUNERAL HOME. Her funeral service will be held at 1:00 p.m. Wednesday in the funeral home. Burial will be in Ferncliff Cemetery.
Memorial donations may be made to the Alzheimer's Association.
Published in the Springfield News-Sun on 9/5/2010
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Author: jerrypaasch
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Thank you for info on Carlisle book. I have my family traced to John G. Carlisle 1770-1823 who came to Choctaw/Washington County, Alabama USA. Do you have info on this line before 1770. I would appreciate your help
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