Seeking information regarding S. T. CARELOCK who m. M. H. SHIVE (SHIVES), Aug. 5, 1880,
Kaufman Co., TX, and their family.
I do find a Mary SHIVES, d/o Martha SHIVES, age 15, b. KY, on the 1880 census for
Lawrence, Kaufman Co., TX, through the following site:
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/se...
I have not yet been able to locate either the names S. T. CARELOCK or Samuel Thomas
CARELOCK on the 1880 census.
Are Mary SHIVES and and M. H. SHIVES the same person?
If S. T. CARELOCK is indeed Samuel Thomas CARELOCK, b. Feb. 14, 1844, Union Co., NC, d.
TX, as I believe him to be, I have his ancestry listed as follows in the following report
which appears on my home page:
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/GENE18-...
Hans GERLACH
David GERLACH/CARLOCK
Frederick Cornelius CARLOCK
George CARLOCK/KERLOCK/CERLAUGH
Samuel A. CARLOCK/CARELOCK, Sr.
Samuel A. CARELOCK, Jr.
William A. CARELOCK
Susan Cearlock Tilleman
List Administrator of the CARLOCK and CARELOCK Mailing Lists
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/?Welcom...
----- Original Message #6-----
From: <vansomeren(a)sbcglobal.net>
To: <CARLOCK-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: Edgar "Ernest" Alexander CARELOCK (1878 - 1948)
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I have ordered Edgar's SS# application but have not received it as yet. Once I do I
am hoping to have more than just his mothers maiden name.
Also I do have most of the decendents of Edgar complete, I am working on the marriage of
Martha Carelock (daughter of Edgar) to Georg Dold right now. Once that is complete I would
like to share that information with you.
Most of the rest of the decendents are still living so I will need to get their
permission to forward their information to you.
Carolle
----- Original Message #5-----
From: <STilleman(a)satx.rr.com>
To: <CARLOCK-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 12:57 PM
Subject: Edgar "Ernest" Alexander CARELOCK (1878 - 1948)
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Surnames: CARELOCK, SHIVES
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This is in reply to Carole VANSOMEREN's Jan. 28, 2004, posting to the Ancestry
CARLOCK Message Board titled "Carelock,(Carlock), Shive (Shives)."
Listings for both the names Edgar Alexander CARELOCK and Ernest Alexander CARELOCK appear
in the California Death Records at the following site:
http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi .
Information listed for both names is the same: b. 02/05/1878; mother's maiden name
SHIVES; father's last name CARELOCK; birth place Texas; death place Alameda Co.; death
date 01/17/1948; Social Security number 549-14-5920. The last column on both listings
provides a field to "order record." It is possible that the original death
record may include the full names of Edgar/Ernest's parents. Please let me know what
you find out.
I do not find this individual listed in the Social Security Death Index at the following
site:
http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi .
I would also be very interested in any information that you may be able to provide with
regard to Edgar/Ernest's descendants.
Susan Cearlock Tilleman (STilleman(a)satx.rr.com)
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/?Welcom...
----- Original Message #4-----
From: "KATHRYN BROWN" <DRBROWN(a)peoplepc.com>
To: <CARLOCK-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: Carelock,(Carlock), Shive (Shives)
Hello Carolle-
According to my file, Samuel Thomas Carelock was born 14 Jan/Feb 1844 in Union Co, NC,
son of William A. (J.) Carelock and Beatrice G "Beedy" Hamilton. William and
Beedy had 11 children, with Samuel Thomas and William Adrian Carelock (twins), being the
oldest. As I mentioned before, I don't have any more information on his descendants,
assuming we are talking about the same Samuel Thomas Carelock.
I would be interested in these descendants, thank you. And if you are interested in
more information on this family please let me know.
Kathy
----- Original Message #3-----
From: Carolle Van Someren
To: KATHRYN BROWN
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: Carelock,(Carlock), Shive (Shives)
How wonderful! I have this S.T Carelock as Samual Thomas Carelock, married M H Shives
in Kaufman Co., Texas on Aug 5 1880, I don't her name yet, know all of her brothers
and sisters as well as her line. I don't know how much longer after they married that
he died but they had at least one child Edgar Alexander Carelock also known as Ernest
Carelock. You can find Ernest Carelock along with his grandmother Martha Shives in King
County Washington 1920 Census Image #16. I have that line through Edgar/Ernest children in
the San Francisco Bay area. Also after Samual died M H Shives married Edgar Johnson of
Terrell Kaufman Co., Texas.
Please let me know if you would like to share further information!
Carolle VanSomeren
----- Original Message #2-----
From: "KATHRYN BROWN" <DRBROWN(a)peoplepc.com>
To: <CARLOCK-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: Carelock,(Carlock), Shive (Shives)
Could this S. T. Carelock possibly be Samuel Thomas Carelock, son of William
and Beatrice (Hamilton) Carelock and twin brother of William Adrian
Carelock? I do not have any known spouse(s) or children for Samuel Thomas,
but he died in TX. He was born 1844 in NC.
This is total speculation on my part, more research is definitely needed.
Good luck!
----- Original Message #1-----
From: <vansomeren(a)sbcglobal.net>
To: <CARLOCK-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 8:55 AM
Subject: Carelock,(Carlock), Shive (Shives)
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Surnames: Carelock, (Carlock), Shive (Shives)
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Message Board Post:
I am seeking any information on S.T. Carelock and M. H. Shive (Shives)
married Aug
5 1880 in Kaufman Texas. I believe that M.H Shive's parents are
Martha McKnight and Philip Shives. Martha was a widow in 1880 living in
Lawrence, Kaufman County TX (district 43). S.T and M.H. Carelock's son I
believe to be Edgar (Ernest) Alexander Carelock.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.