Hello, Mike. I regret I cannot help you either! I have not found any Collins who went to
the States except for one who went to California from Australia and died there, childless,
a few years later. That was about 1904.
Dave Collins
dave.clnz(a)xtra.co.nz
ph (09) 298 6614
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Collins [SMTP:castron72@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, 18 July 1999 20:38
To: D Collins
Subject: Re: [CARDEN-L] Carden link
Hi Dave,
I am sorry to say at this time I do not have any information. But, I do
have a question. Did any of your Collins end up in Ohio. I am trying to
research the Collins side of my family and have only 3 names to go on, my
father, uncle and grandfather.... Please let me know.
Thanks in advance!!
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: D Collins <dave.clnz(a)xtra.co.nz>
To: <CARDEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 1999 11:37 PM
Subject: [CARDEN-L] Carden link
Hello to all the Cardens.
It is time to re-introduce myself to you all. My name is David [Dave]
Carden
Collins. I have been reading all your correspondence with great
interest although I have not seen the link to me I am looking for.
I come from a long line of Collins' who were an old family of
Somerset/Wiltshire in England. There was an emigration of them to Australia
in the early/mid 1800s. My g-g-grandfather, Thomas Collins married Sophia
Danvers of the same area, between Bristol and Bath, before moving to
Australia.
Their eldest son, my g-grandfather, was named James Carden Collins. We
are not
aware of Carden existing previously. Carden has persisted as a
first or middle name [it is my middle name] ever since. It has been an
ambition to find where it originated. There is no link to a Carden in the
immediate family of Thomas' wife, or with his parents that I can find so
far, but there is a family tradition of continuing surnames as middle names.
Other surnames used through my g-grandfather's generation were Danvers,
Brooks,
Whittaker, Noad, Lester, Minchin, and Montgomery that seem to relate
to the period before they went to Australia. So I may be looking for a
Carden link to those names. If anyone recognises a possible link I would be
very interested to know about it.
The following is a story about one of those carrying the name Carden,
Carden Noad
Collins. He was a son of James Carden Collins, and was born in
1876. To a New Zealander like myself, this is a fine illustration of
Australian culture. The story, set on the Queensland coast, is as related
by his wife:-
"Mrs Collins remembers vividly the day a man was taken by a shark on
Yeppoon
beach. His thigh muscle was torn out and although he was
transported to Rockhampton Hospital [about 45 km] the journey was too long
and he died from the loss of blood.
Mrs Collins' late husband, Carden Collins, was the man who strode
out into
the surf opposite the Strand Hotel to catch the shark with a big hook
baited
with butchers meat. He threw it out and it had hardly hit the water when
the shark struck. Mr Collins could not hold the line and it was only with
the help of 15 or 20 men that the creature was landed and dragged up the
beach.
Someone had an idea to sell the sharks teeth at half a crown each (25
cents) to raise money for the widow of the casualty. However, others wanted
to souvenir the shark jaws and during the discussion in the old Myola Hall
on the corner of Normanby and Hill street a fight broke out and Mrs Collins
well remembers many young men being carried out of the hall unconscious.
The sharks teeth were sold with the exception of one which a
well-wisher
carved into a brooch and presented to the widow as a keepsake."
And, incidentally, the son Carden Noad Collins, Robert James Carden
Collins, died
recently near Yeppoon. I met him last year. He spent WWII in
Changi Gaol in Singapore under the Japanese. That he survived to the age of
almost 85, after nearly fifty years of very ill-health from the Singapore
years was remarkable.
Dave Collins
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