Joyce,
I've also wondered, if my Owen was named for Youen, or however he spelled
his name, I think I've seen it spelled Ewen also, but not sure.
I too, feel, that Yoen, and John, could be brothers.
Does anyone think that John, could have had more children than has been
listed?
Becky
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joyce Bates" <jmbates3(a)bellsouth.net>
To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
Youen & Owen are such similar names I wonder if Owen might have
been named
for him with a different spelling? It could be worth checking that
branch.
I wish we could get past the John Carden brick wall. Thanks, Mike. Good
to
hear from you again. I, too, have a problem finding time for research.
Joyce
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Mike C." <castron72(a)hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:13 AM
To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
> Joyce your information is correct. I have tried to help Jack and Becky
> and
> just can't find a connection. In fact Jack helped me fill a few holes. I
> think the census information Jack listed is children of William Carden
> from
> Jasper Co., GA. I believe William and John were brothers. I also believe
> Youen Carden is a brother as well. He was in Goochland Co., VA the same
> time as John and also married a Davis as did John. Both in the 1790's.
> Youen remained in VA and was a mill worker or manager for Thomas
> Jefferson.
> There was also a Carden woman who married a Davis in Goochland in the
> 1790's. I'm sorry I don't have that info readily available. When John
> went
> to GA he went to Jasper Co., before ending in Pike. I also don't think
> John
> was a close relation of the other Carden's in Goochland, maybe a cousin
> or
> something. I really think Jack and his group are descended from William
> and
> I think Owen may be as well. I don't have any proof of this just my
> thoughts. I would like to add I wouldn't have near as much information
> if
> it wasn't for Joyce and another cousin in Villa Rica, Pauline and her
> husband Robert, and Chuck was a huge help as well. I haven't heard from
> him
> in a while and hope MA is treating him well. There is a strange an
> interesting relationship between the Carden's, Willoughby's and the
> Kitchen's. Perhaps this may open some new opportunities for research. I
> wish I had Becky's and Jack's brick wall but if I do I can't find it. I
> also wish I had more time to research but I don't. If I can help any let
> me
> know.
>
> Good Luck!!
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: carden-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:carden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
> Behalf Of Becky
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 5:35 PM
> To: carden(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
>
> Joyce,
> Yes, I know Mike Collins. We've been in touch and he's tried to help me,
> but can't the connection.
>
> We met James at an antique auction in Heflin Al. So, he's still living?
>
> Were you able to access the link to the land deeds?
>
> If you look through your records, and see anything about my Owen, please
> let
>
> me know.
>
> I'll share whatever I have on Andrew with you.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Becky Carden
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joyce Bates" <jmbates3(a)bellsouth.net>
> To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 5:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
>
>
>>I know James. His grandfather & mine were brothers. He works at
>>Hightower
>> Funeral Home in Douglasville.
>> Am not familiar with Owen. Have you asked Mike Collins? I am pretty
>> sure
>> the Willougby's married into the Carden's. Mike has more info on that
>> than
>> I do. I believe that went through the Andrew, Jr. line. My memory is a
>> little faulty and I have boxes of research. I'll have to look through
>> them.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Becky" <rec(a)hiwaay.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 4:43 PM
>> To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
>>
>>> Joyce,
>>> Oh, I do believe, we've been in touch privately about our Carden's.
>>>
>>> So you descend from Andrew Jackson Carden?
>>>
>>> I posted the land records on USGENWEB for Pike Co. I don't know if it
>>> is
>>> still on there or not.
>>>
>>> Do you know a James Carden? I believe he descends from Andrew Jackson
>>> Carden.
>>>
>>> He may live around Douglasville, or Carrollton, Ga. He descends from
>>> the
>>> Andrew Jackson, and then, from the James Buchannon, "Buck" Carden.
>>>
>>> Do you have any info on my Owen H.R. or Owen N.K. Carden?
>>>
>>> He was born in 1820 in Ga., possibly Jasper. Like I said, he bought
>>> land
>>> from Andrew Jackson Carden around 1839. He married, Nancy McLeod, in
>>> Pike
>>> Co. Ga. in 1843, I believe. In the 1850 census, he was living next to
>>> a
>>> Willougby family and in the household, was an Andrew Jackson Carden
>>> Jr.,
>>> and
>>> on the other side, was Andrew Jackson Carden Sr.
>>>
>>> My Owen, and Nancy, migrated to Al., to Tallapoosa Co., around 1860.
>>> He
>>> enlisted in Hillard's Legion in April of 1862, and died in Atlanta in
>>> July
>>> of 1862, and he is supposed to be buried in Oakland cemetery in Atlanta
>>> in
>>> the Confederate soldiers section.
>>>
>>> See, if you can find those records on line, as I posted the sale of the
>>> land
>>> from Andrew Jackson to my Owen.
>>>
>>> Becky Carden
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joyce Bates" <jmbates3(a)bellsouth.net>
>>> To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 2:31 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
>>>
>>>
>>>> Here's my direct line:
>>>>
>>>> John Carden
>>>> his son, Andrew Jackson Carden
>>>> his son, James Buchanan (Buck) Carden
>>>> his son, William Cleveland (Cleve) Carden
>>>> his daughter, Bertha Carden Matychak Chieves
>>>> Me, Joyce Matychak Bates
>>>>
>>>> Becky, I would love to see what you have on Andrew Jackson Carden
>>>> about
>>>> the
>>>> land sale for my records. I have very little on him.
>>>> It is my understanding that almost all the Pike County Cardens are
>>>> related.
>>>> Also, some of my branch migrated to Campbellton County which is now
>>>> Fulton.
>>>> Andrew's son Buck migrated to Paulding County.
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Becky" <rec(a)hiwaay.net>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 2:10 PM
>>>> To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
>>>>
>>>>> Joyce,
>>>>> I'm very interested in this group of Carden's. Who do you
descend
>>>>> from
>>>>> after John?
>>>>>
>>>>> My Owen H.R. Carden, was in Pike Co. Ga., at the same time as the
>>>>> other
>>>>> Carden's, and I just know he must connect somehow, but have not
been
>>>>> able
>>>>> to
>>>>> find out how he connects.
>>>>>
>>>>> He bought land from Andrew Jackson Carden, son of John, in 1839, and
>>>>> he
>>>>> sold
>>>>> it back to him, I think about 1849.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just wish I could find who my O.H.R. belongs to, and I know it has
>>>>> to
>>>>> be
>>>>> some of these Carden's in Pike Co. Ga.
>>>>>
>>>>> Becky Carden
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Joyce Bates" <jmbates3(a)bellsouth.net>
>>>>> To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:49 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The John Carden in Pike County came from Virginia. That's
my
>>>>>> GGGGrandfather.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> From: "Becky" <rec(a)hiwaay.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:09 PM
>>>>>> To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Jack,
>>>>>>> I'm wondering if the John Cardin, listed in the 1800
Oglethrope Co
>>>>>>> Ga.
>>>>>>> census, is the John Carden, that ended up in Pike Co. Ga.? I
do
>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>> was in Oglethrope, and he was in Jasper, before going to
Pike.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Becky Carden
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Jack McConnell"
<jacmac138(a)comcast.net>
>>>>>>> To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:51 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On the 1800 Oglethorpe county Georgia census there is a
John
>>>>>>>> Cardin
>>>>>>>> age
>>>>>>>> over 45 listed with a son age 10-15 and three daughters
in each of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> first three age categories. They are listed in Capt.
Warter's
>>>>>>>> District.
>>>>>>>> The eldest daughter may be an
>>>>>>>> Elizabeth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In Capt. Hardman's District there is a John Smith
Cardin listed,
>>>>>>>> age
>>>>>>>> 26-44
>>>>>>>> with two sons listed under 10.
>>>>>>>> Also in Hardman's District is a William Cardin, age
26-44 with one
>>>>>>>> son
>>>>>>>> 10-15 and three daughters in the first categories.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does anyone have info on who these might be? The 1810
census was
>>>>>>>> lost
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> by 1820 they are gone from Oglethorpe. Are they the ones
who are
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> Jasper
>>>>>>>> county by 1820?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jack McConnell
>>>>>>>> Monroe, Georgia
>>>>>>>> jacmac138(a)comcast.net
>>>>>>>>
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