Elisa,
I have Mary Malinda's date of death as 16 June 1907 and buried at Shady
Grove Cemetery, Franklin County, Alabama.
Chuck Carden
-----Original Message-----
From: carden-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:carden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Mike C.
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 12:59 PM
To: carden(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
Hi Elisa,
I am sorry I haven't found Rueben and Rachel or Mollie. It is good to hear
from you. I will keep my eyes open!!
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: carden-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:carden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of elisa sanford
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:04 PM
To: carden(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
Mike, it's been a good while since we have been in touch , i was wondering
in any of your research and wondering around Ga., have run across the buriel
markers for Reuben and Rachel Carden......she probaby died sometime after
the 1860 census, that is that last time she shows up in the census
records...Reuben, not sure when he died...they were born sometime between
1805 and 1812..not sure of the exact year.
i also haven't had any luck in tracing my gg-grandmother's buriel
place...Mary MaLinda " Mollie" Dempsey Carden.
the family moved from Polk Co. Tn. after the 1850 census into Murray Co. Ga.
Elisa Sanford
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From: Mike C. <castron72(a)hotmail.com>
To: carden(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 12:13:35 AM
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
Joyce your information is correct. I have tried to help Jack and Becky and
just can't find a connection. In fact Jack helped me fill a few holes. I
think the census information Jack listed is children of William Carden from
Jasper Co., GA. I believe William and John were brothers. I also believe
Youen Carden is a brother as well. He was in Goochland Co., VA the same
time as John and also married a Davis as did John. Both in the 1790's.
Youen remained in VA and was a mill worker or manager for Thomas Jefferson.
There was also a Carden woman who married a Davis in Goochland in the
1790's. I'm sorry I don't have that info readily available. When John went
to GA he went to Jasper Co., before ending in Pike. I also don't think John
was a close relation of the other Carden's in Goochland, maybe a cousin or
something. I really think Jack and his group are descended from William and
I think Owen may be as well. I don't have any proof of this just my
thoughts. I would like to add I wouldn't have near as much information if
it wasn't for Joyce and another cousin in Villa Rica, Pauline and her
husband Robert, and Chuck was a huge help as well. I haven't heard from him
in a while and hope MA is treating him well. There is a strange an
interesting relationship between the Carden's, Willoughby's and the
Kitchen's. Perhaps this may open some new opportunities for research. I
wish I had Becky's and Jack's brick wall but if I do I can't find it. I
also wish I had more time to research but I don't. If I can help any let me
know.
Good Luck!!
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: carden-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:carden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Becky
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 5:35 PM
To: carden(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
Joyce,
Yes, I know Mike Collins. We've been in touch and he's tried to help me,
but can't the connection.
We met James at an antique auction in Heflin Al. So, he's still living?
Were you able to access the link to the land deeds?
If you look through your records, and see anything about my Owen, please let
me know.
I'll share whatever I have on Andrew with you.
Thanks,
Becky Carden
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joyce Bates" <jmbates3(a)bellsouth.net>
To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
I know James. His grandfather & mine were brothers. He works at
Hightower
Funeral Home in Douglasville.
Am not familiar with Owen. Have you asked Mike Collins? I am pretty sure
the Willougby's married into the Carden's. Mike has more info on that
than
I do. I believe that went through the Andrew, Jr. line. My memory is a
little faulty and I have boxes of research. I'll have to look through
them.
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Becky" <rec(a)hiwaay.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 4:43 PM
To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
> Joyce,
> Oh, I do believe, we've been in touch privately about our Carden's.
>
> So you descend from Andrew Jackson Carden?
>
> I posted the land records on USGENWEB for Pike Co. I don't know if it
> is
> still on there or not.
>
> Do you know a James Carden? I believe he descends from Andrew Jackson
> Carden.
>
> He may live around Douglasville, or Carrollton, Ga. He descends from the
> Andrew Jackson, and then, from the James Buchannon, "Buck" Carden.
>
> Do you have any info on my Owen H.R. or Owen N.K. Carden?
>
> He was born in 1820 in Ga., possibly Jasper. Like I said, he bought
> land
> from Andrew Jackson Carden around 1839. He married, Nancy McLeod, in
> Pike
> Co. Ga. in 1843, I believe. In the 1850 census, he was living next to a
> Willougby family and in the household, was an Andrew Jackson Carden Jr.,
> and
> on the other side, was Andrew Jackson Carden Sr.
>
> My Owen, and Nancy, migrated to Al., to Tallapoosa Co., around 1860. He
> enlisted in Hillard's Legion in April of 1862, and died in Atlanta in
> July
> of 1862, and he is supposed to be buried in Oakland cemetery in Atlanta
> in
> the Confederate soldiers section.
>
> See, if you can find those records on line, as I posted the sale of the
> land
> from Andrew Jackson to my Owen.
>
> Becky Carden
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joyce Bates" <jmbates3(a)bellsouth.net>
> To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
>
>
>> Here's my direct line:
>>
>> John Carden
>> his son, Andrew Jackson Carden
>> his son, James Buchanan (Buck) Carden
>> his son, William Cleveland (Cleve) Carden
>> his daughter, Bertha Carden Matychak Chieves
>> Me, Joyce Matychak Bates
>>
>> Becky, I would love to see what you have on Andrew Jackson Carden about
>> the
>> land sale for my records. I have very little on him.
>> It is my understanding that almost all the Pike County Cardens are
>> related.
>> Also, some of my branch migrated to Campbellton County which is now
>> Fulton.
>> Andrew's son Buck migrated to Paulding County.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Becky" <rec(a)hiwaay.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 2:10 PM
>> To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
>>
>>> Joyce,
>>> I'm very interested in this group of Carden's. Who do you descend
from
>>> after John?
>>>
>>> My Owen H.R. Carden, was in Pike Co. Ga., at the same time as the other
>>> Carden's, and I just know he must connect somehow, but have not been
>>> able
>>> to
>>> find out how he connects.
>>>
>>> He bought land from Andrew Jackson Carden, son of John, in 1839, and he
>>> sold
>>> it back to him, I think about 1849.
>>>
>>> I just wish I could find who my O.H.R. belongs to, and I know it has to
>>> be
>>> some of these Carden's in Pike Co. Ga.
>>>
>>> Becky Carden
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joyce Bates" <jmbates3(a)bellsouth.net>
>>> To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:49 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
>>>
>>>
>>>> The John Carden in Pike County came from Virginia. That's my
>>>> GGGGrandfather.
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Becky" <rec(a)hiwaay.net>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 4:09 PM
>>>> To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jack,
>>>>> I'm wondering if the John Cardin, listed in the 1800 Oglethrope
Co
>>>>> Ga.
>>>>> census, is the John Carden, that ended up in Pike Co. Ga.? I do
>>>>> believe
>>>>> he
>>>>> was in Oglethrope, and he was in Jasper, before going to Pike.
>>>>>
>>>>> Becky Carden
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jack McConnell" <jacmac138(a)comcast.net>
>>>>> To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:51 PM
>>>>> Subject: [CARDEN] Oglethorpe county Georgia
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On the 1800 Oglethorpe county Georgia census there is a John
Cardin
>>>>>> age
>>>>>> over 45 listed with a son age 10-15 and three daughters in each
of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> first three age categories. They are listed in Capt.
Warter's
>>>>>> District.
>>>>>> The eldest daughter may be an
>>>>>> Elizabeth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In Capt. Hardman's District there is a John Smith Cardin
listed, age
>>>>>> 26-44
>>>>>> with two sons listed under 10.
>>>>>> Also in Hardman's District is a William Cardin, age 26-44
with one
>>>>>> son
>>>>>> 10-15 and three daughters in the first categories.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone have info on who these might be? The 1810 census
was
>>>>>> lost
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> by 1820 they are gone from Oglethorpe. Are they the ones who are
in
>>>>>> Jasper
>>>>>> county by 1820?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jack McConnell
>>>>>> Monroe, Georgia
>>>>>> jacmac138(a)comcast.net
>>>>>>
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