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Sure, Diane, all of the results will be tabulated, so every one I get
is of value.
Your husband is in the O+ grouping which is the most prevalent in the
worldwide
population. The % among Carden's, as compared to the worldwide %, is
average.
I hope you and everyone will look at these results in my 2nd email on
this subject
yesterday, and not that 1st 'garbled' one. Putting a table into plain
text messages
is 'tricky' bc/ you don't know how it will look after you send it !
Maybe everyone on the list can read the 2nd post of the same info. &
decipher the
Summary Result posted right afterwards.
Again, thanks to all for participating, and especially those who have,
or will, have
their y-DNA typed. It's really a help to so many who, like us, are
attempting to tie
their Carden roots to a specific ancestor who came to America many
generations
ago. Also, if you have a maternal Carden line, like me, the mt-DNA
typing is also
getting more refined as time goes by. The result isn't calculated in
the exact
same way as with males, but regions in countries all around the world
are beginning
to produce results that point toward certain y-DNA groups that were
accompanied
by certain mt-DNA groups, esp. in western Europe.
Martha
-----Original Message-----
From: carden-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:carden-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of carden-request(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 6:55 AM
To: carden(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: CARDEN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 25
Today's Topics:
1. Results of CARDEN BLOOD TYPE POLL (Diane Hawkins)
2. Re: Results of CARDEN BLOOD TYPE POLL (Byron, Ruth)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:53:33 -0600
From: Diane Hawkins <diane777(a)centurytel.net>
Subject: [CARDEN] Results of CARDEN BLOOD TYPE POLL
To: carden(a)rootsweb.com
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Martha
In the History of Arkansas, Perry, Co. John Wilson CARDEN'S father was
of Scotch and English descent. He was born in Orange Co. North Carolina
in 1801.
My husbands great grandmother was Mary Lucinda Carden, daughter of John
Wilson. His mother and children moved to Carroll, Co. Tn. after James
died in 1854 in Orange. Co.
I don't think it counts, but Eds blood type is 0 positive. Diane ,
>Results of CARDEN BLOOD TYPE POLL
>
>This info. is a little early, but I haven't gotten any new results in
>the last couple of days. If there are any more responses later on,
>I'll update. What about the folks in England and Australia who are on
>this list? Arthur, what about you? Will you be responding ?
>
>BTW, since Rootsweb allows only 'plain text', the information below may
>not come thru without looking 'garbled'. If that happens, I'll
re-send
>the results in a 'line by line' synopsis.
>
>================================================================
>
>
>Total # of Respondants as of 2/13/2008 = 29 (with 1 unknown)
>
>Blood /Rh Factor Total % B.G. Inheritance - World
>Compare
>Group # Maternal / Paternal
Av.
>% Cardens
>
> O + 11 40 5 6
>38 Av
> O - 3 10 1 2
>7 Av
> A + 7 25 3 4
>34 Low
> A - 1 3 0 1
>6 Low
> B + 5 18 3 2
>9 High
> B - 0 0 0 0
>2 Low
> AB + 1* 3* unk unk
>3 Av
> AB - 0* - unk unk
>1 unk
>
>
>Another question I might have is this...
>For those of you who have had your y-DNA typed, do most of you have
>Haplogroup R1b or R1a ? If you've had deeper testing you may have more
>letters & # as extensions of those two basic groups. Do any of you
have
>Haplogroups that differ from those, ex: Group E or I, for instance?
>It's occurring to me more and more that our Carden ancestors, may have
>been Ulster Scots, esp. looking at these few blood types.
>
>On my paternal side I'm abt. 80% Irish, 15% Scottish; the rest is a
>smat-
>tering of other European ethnic groups that aren't Celtic, Gaelic,
>Pictish or Welch. I have almost no Anglo-Saxon blood-ties among my
>paternal ancestors; and our family's dominant blood type is B+. But
>that's what you might expect for someone whose paternal ancestors came
>to America from Co. Cork, in SW Ireland.
>
>Some group studies have been done recently to determine the % of
>certain
>
>blood types in differing regions of Ireland. In the Northern 1/2 of
>the
>
>country the A+ type is most common; while in the South the B+ type is
>in the majority.
>
>Anyone have thoughts on this? Are the majority of us more Irish than
>Scottish? What did the explanation of your DNA results tell you?
>
>-- Thanks, Martha
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:54:55 -0500
From: "Byron, Ruth" <RuthByron(a)fdle.state.fl.us>
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Results of CARDEN BLOOD TYPE POLL
To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
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I've not had any DNA typing done, however, it has been passed down that
we are descended from ScotchIrish, American Indian and Dutch. I plan to
do the DNA typing soon. ruthbyron(a)fdle.state.fl.us Fort Myers Crime Lab
4700 Terminal Drive Fort Myers, FL 33907
-----Original Message-----
From: carden-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:carden-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of Martha
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:45 PM
To: carden(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Results of CARDEN BLOOD TYPE POLL
Results of CARDEN BLOOD TYPE POLL
This info. is a little early, but I haven't gotten any new results in
the last couple of days. If there are any more responses later on, I'll
update. What about the folks in England and Australia who are on this
list? Arthur, what about you? Will you be responding ?
BTW, since Rootsweb allows only 'plain text', the information below may
not come thru without looking 'garbled'. If that happens, I'll re-send
the results in a 'line by line' synopsis.
================================================================
Total # of Respondants as of 2/13/2008 = 29 (with 1 unknown)
Blood /Rh Factor Total % B.G. Inheritance - World
Compare
Group # Maternal / Paternal Av.
% Cardens
O + 11 40 5 6
38 Av
O - 3 10 1 2
7 Av
A + 7 25 3 4
34 Low
A - 1 3 0 1
6 Low
B + 5 18 3 2
9 High
B - 0 0 0 0
2 Low
AB + 1* 3* unk unk
3 Av
AB - 0* - unk unk
1 unk
Another question I might have is this...
For those of you who have had your y-DNA typed, do most of you have
Haplogroup R1b or R1a ? If you've had deeper testing you may have more
letters & # as extensions of those two basic groups. Do any of you have
Haplogroups that differ from those, ex: Group E or I, for instance?
It's occurring to me more and more that our Carden ancestors, may have
been Ulster Scots, esp. looking at these few blood types.
On my paternal side I'm abt. 80% Irish, 15% Scottish; the rest is a
smat-
tering of other European ethnic groups that aren't Celtic, Gaelic,
Pictish
or Welch. I have almost no Anglo-Saxon blood-ties among my paternal
ancestors; and our family's dominant blood type is B+. But that's what
you might expect for someone whose paternal ancestors came to America
from Co. Cork, in SW Ireland.
Some group studies have been done recently to determine the % of certain
blood types in differing regions of Ireland. In the Northern 1/2 of the
country the A+ type is most common; while in the South the B+ type is in
the
majority.
Anyone have thoughts on this? Are the majority of us more Irish than
Scottish? What did the explanation of your DNA results tell you?
-- Thanks, Martha
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-----------
* - respondant wasn't sure their AB blood type was "+" or "-" ;
probability says it's most likely AB+
unk = unknown
FYI --- If some others on the list don't know their blood type. I may
be 'preaching to the choir' on this topic, but there are several methods
to use in finding out if this information is in your medical records. My
'sermon' is that you should already know your type, your spouse's (if
you have one) and those of your children & grandchildren. Many people
give blood bf/ they have scheduled surgery, but what if you, or one of
your family members, needs blood in an emergency situation> If you knew
blood types of your closest family members, you might be ablet o call on
one or more of them to give in an emergency. Otherwise you'll have to
depend on the local blood bank to supply whatever they had, and from
whomever they've had to get it to fulfill their required 'quota'. I
worked for the Red Cross some years ago, and found out there's no
telling who has AIDS, STDs, etc. that don't show up in a regular
screening at
the time of donation.
Here are some ways you can find out your blood type:
1. if you've had surgery in the last 5 yr.,
2. know both of your parents' blood types,
3. have given blood in the last 3 yr. (Red Cross keeps records), 4.
contact your primary care physician
All agencies of this type are bound by law to reveal your medical
records to YOU upon your request. If it's in your medical records, a
hospital or
DR. is bound by law to tell you whatever you want to know. You may have
to fill out some forms, but they can't deny you anything they've
discovered during your time of treatment, donation, etc. with them.
;)
-----Original Message-----
From: carden-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:carden-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of carden-request(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 5:34 PM
To: carden(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: CARDEN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13
Today's Topics:
1. James J. Carden (Chuck Carden)
2. Re: James J. Carden (JWilliams)
3. Blood Type Poll (Martha)
4. Re: Blood Type Poll (John Carden)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 10:51:57 -0500
From: "Chuck Carden" <chuckcarden(a)comcast.net>
Subject: [CARDEN] James J. Carden
To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
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Martha (and anyone else that is interested),
Below is what I have on the male children of James J. Carden. If anyone
has additional information, or can correct what I have, I would
appreciate it. Thanks, Chuck Carden
James J. Carden was born 1856, Goochland County, Virginia, son of Robert
and Phyllis Woolbank Carden. James was married 20 Jan 1784 Granville
County (VA) North Carolina. Stephen Fuller and Bennet Searcy, were
surety and witness. "Marriage Records, 1765-1810, Mecklenburg Co., VA
(LDS SLC book 975.5645V25e) and DPL
G929.3755M466e1)
There is a James Cardin of the 1786,1790 & 1800 NC state census in the
Fishing Creek District, next to Ezekiel Fuller. Ezekiel Fuller, of
Franklin Co., NC deeds to James Carden, of Granville Co., NC., land on 4
June 1787. (Deed Book " pg 545). James Carden sold land in Granville
Co., NC to Matthew Garrett, of Warren Co., NC, 7 Nov 1794 (Deed Book
"P", pg 138) James Carden deeds land to Robert Carden, 6 Dec 1791 (Deed
Book "Q", p 120) James Carden, Joel Moore & Richard Moore, all of
Granville Co. sold land jointly to Warner Taylor, Granville Co. on 20
May 1805 (Deed Book "S", pg
107)
He is not on the 1795 Mecklenburg Co., VA tax list.
He is supposed to be on the 1840 Coffee Co., TN census, pg 171. Ezekiel
Fuller deeded land to James Carden, Granville Co., VA (NC). Deed proved
26 Sep 1804. There is a James & Elizabeth Carden that are listed in
Orange Co., NC as Grantors in book 25, pgs 298, 339, 340 & 495 in 1832,
and a James Carden, et al in book 29, pg 508 on 15 Nov 1841; and as
Grantee in book 29, pg 170, 14 Aug 1840.
WIFE - Elizabeth Fuller, born about 1763, Granville County, (VA)
North
Carolina.
Elizabeth's headstone is the one at the Carden Cemetery that reads:
"Grand Mother-Wife of James Carden".
CHILD 1 - John Carden, born abt 1784, Granville County, (VA) North
Carolina.
No marriage or family information.
>From Claire Patterson, 3847 W. Lane Ave, Phoenix AZ, 85051, 17 Dec
>1990.
Jennifer Lewis states that John died in North Carolina in 1834.
CHILD 2 - James Fuller Carden, born 12 Oct 1786, Mecklenburg County,
North
Carolina. Died 1 Oct 1855, Sebastian County, Arkansas. Married 1st,
Susannah Floyd, 8 Oct 1810 in North Carolina. No known children. Married
2nd Jane Morrow. They were married in Franklin County, Tennessee in
1817. That part of Franklin County became part of Coffee County in 1836.
James Fuller Carden, along with the Morrow's and Ward's were among the
families who had obtained their lands as bounty for serving in the War
of 1812. They were in the Battle of New Orleans with Andrew Jackson.
James and his family came to Sebastian County about 1850. A child of his
was buried in the old Morrow Cemetery (now called the Ward or Williamson
Cemetery) in 1850.
CHILD 6- Leonard Ansel Carden, born abt 1798, Granville County, North
Carolina, died before 8 May 1853, Jackson County, Alabama. Married
Margaret "Peggy" Berry about 1820, Franklin County, Tennessee. Leonard
Ansel's estate was probated 8 May 1856 in Jackson County, AL.
Administrator was John Berry, Margaret Carden and James S. Carden. Will
book "K", page 29. There was an estate sale on 10 Mar 1856. Valley
Leaves Vol. #11, Jackson County, June, 1977 JACKSON COUNTY PROBATE
RECORDS
Note: This entry is somewhat confusing in that it begins on Page 22 and
is completed on Page 31. It appears that Pages 23 through 30 were tipped
into this book and are possibly part of the first pages in the book. I
am giving this entry in its entirety. Page 22. "The undersigned by leave
as the Administrator of the estate of Leonard Cardin, Dec'd, late of
said county, to submit for your approval the following report of the
sale of the slaves belonging to the estate of the Decendent to wit:
"Eliza & her three children to Johnathan Latham - $2050. and took his
notes therefore with E. C. Williams & Thos. Latham, dated 11th March
1856 & due 12 months after date, "Preston the negro man sold at the same
time to James Hunter for $1314. 00, and took his note therefor with
James F. Graham and Wm. C. Berry dated and due as above stated. "Jane
the Negro Girl to Margarett Cardin onto[ ?I the same time and place
for $900. 00, took her note therefor with Wm. C. Berry and . " [Note:
rest of sentence missing.
Page 31. ". .. Joseph Berry ... above set .. 'Said sale held at
residence of the late Leonard Cardin on March 10, 1856. Signed by John
Berry, Margaret Berry, and James S. Cardin. The land of the estate sold
same day and purchased by James S. Cardin for $3700. on 12 month credit
with two securities and with estate retaining a lein until property paid
for. Cardin failed to comply with order of sale and real estate now
considered unsold. Heirs asked Probate Court for another time to sell
real estate. Signed by John Berry, Margaret Cardin, and James L. Cardin,
administrators of Leonard Cardin, deceased. Dated May 8, 1856. Valley
Leaves Vol. #12, Jackson County, June, 1978 Probate Records- 1855-1856
Page 67-68. LEONARD CARDEN Estate [Also written Leornard & Lenard].
Inventory. Oct. 19, 1853. John Berry and James L. Cardin,
Administrators. John G. Dixon, Probate Judge. Among this estate's assets
were notes on Isaac Denton, Richard Kelly, William W. Berry, Jacob
Wilson, James A. Coffey, Joab Willson, John Berry, A. C. Howell, William
Hunter, and James Cardin. Pages 68-69. LEONARD CARDEN Estate. Jan. 21,
1856. Annual Settlement. Margaret Cardin, John Berry, and James L.
Cardin, Admrls. The amount of sale of personal property was $578.51.
Monies recd. on outstanding notes from following persons: Miller Joab
Willson W. Berry John Berry William P. Coffey Jas. L. Carden Payments by
the estate made to: N. Robinson, B. L. Russell, J. G. Blackwell, G. W.
Gist (printer), Russ (tax collector), Byrom P. Dwyre, and Joseph Berry.
Valley Leaves Vol. #13, Jackson County, June, 1979 Probate Records
1856-1857 Page 122-123 Estate of Lenard Cardin John Berry, guardian of
John L. Cardin, Lenard Cardin, Margaret Cardin, and Sarah L. Cardin,
heirs of Lenard Cardin, decd., presented account and sale of personal
property from the estate of Lenard Cardin, decd.
CHILD 8 - Reuben Carden, born about 1805, in either Orange County or
Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, died Sept 1852, Coffee County,
Tennessee. Married 15 June 1825, Coffee County, Tennessee Sarah "Sally"
Henry. Sarah Henry was born on February 28, 1806 in Tennessee and died
February 14, 1893 in Coffee County, TN. Reuben's will is filed in Will
Book "0", p115, Coffee County, TN. He is buried in the Carden Cemetery
in Coffee County but does not have a headstone. Their children were:
William Lewis, James A., Martin A., Lucinda J., Robert C., Alexander,
and Martha. Abstract of Will of Rueben Carden REUBEN CARDEN Original
Book 0, pg 115; book1 pg 233 WPA Date Written: 4-21-1852 Wife Sally
(also Sarah) Carden to receive tract I live on and tract I bought from
John Eoff, in all 302 acres. Son Robert C. Carden to have his mother's
302 acres after her death. Son William L. Carden and Son Martin A.
Carden and Daughter Lewcinday [as found in original; transcribed in book
as Lucinda] J. Jackson to have land I bought from Thomas Hill and Henry
Powers on W side of Duck River. Son James A. Carden to have $1 only
Slaves: Clark, Jerry, Martha, Matilda and child; Peter.
Rest of property to be sold and proceeds divided among first four
children above.
Executor: none Date Proven: 10-4-1852
Witnesses: Robert McGuire, Elijah J. McGuire
CHILD 9- Lewis Carden Sr., born 17 May 1809, Siloam Springs, Surry
County, North Carolina, died 26 Sept 1887, Manchester, Coffee County,
Tennessee, buried Carden Cemetery ,Manchester, Coffee County, Tennessee.
Married Catherine Simpson 18 Jan 1830, Coffee County, Tennessee.
Lewis was listed as Lucius on the 1850 census. See Jean R. May FGS. See
"Goodspeed's Histories of Cannon, Coffee, DeKalb, Warren & White Co's of
TN. (DPL G976.8G6289can).
CHILD 11 - Robert Franklin Carden Sr. born 1810, Coffee County,
Tennessee, Died 1873 Pea Ridge, Benton County, Arkansas. Married Rachael
Mitchell 1829, Coffee County, Tennessee. Robert, according to a letter
from O.C. Carden, dated 28 Jul 1914, Shelty, IA., went to Arkansas.
(according to other information the family moved to Benton County,
Arkansas in 1837). Claire Patterson 3847 W Lane Ave, Phoenix AZ 80501,
17 Dec 1990 states he was born abt 1797 in North Carolina. Robert's
middle name given by Jim Danforth (jimd(a)winqs-n-things.com)
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Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:50:10 -0800
From: JWilliams <jfwilli(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] James J. Carden
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That is great! The documentation is really nice too. Thank you for
getting this out! Now I can put documentation down as a ref. Jeff
On Feb 2, 2008 6:49 PM, Chuck Carden <chuckcarden(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> Martha (and anyone else that is interested),
> Below is what I have on the male children of James J. Carden. If
> anyone has additional information, or can correct what I have, I would
> appreciate it. Thanks,
> Chuck Carden
>
>
> James J. Carden was born 1856, Goochland County, Virginia, son of
> Robert and Phyllis Woolbank Carden.
> James was married 20 Jan 1784 Granville County (VA) North Carolina.
> Stephen
> Fuller and Bennet Searcy, were surety and witness. "Marriage Records,
> 1765-1810, Mecklenburg Co., VA (LDS SLC book 975.5645V25e) and DPL
> G929.3755M466e1)
> There is a James Cardin of the 1786,1790 & 1800 NC state census in the
> Fishing Creek District, next to Ezekiel Fuller. Ezekiel Fuller, of
> Franklin
> Co., NC deeds to James Carden, of Granville Co., NC., land on 4 June
1787.
> (Deed Book " pg 545).
> James Carden sold land in Granville Co., NC to Matthew Garrett, of
Warren
> Co., NC, 7 Nov 1794 (Deed Book "P", pg 138)
> James Carden deeds land to Robert Carden, 6 Dec 1791 (Deed Book "Q", p
> 120)
> James Carden, Joel Moore & Richard Moore, all of Granville Co. sold
land
> jointly to Warner Taylor, Granville Co. on 20 May 1805 (Deed Book "S",
pg
> 107)
> He is not on the 1795 Mecklenburg Co., VA tax list.
> He is supposed to be on the 1840 Coffee Co., TN census, pg 171.
> Ezekiel Fuller deeded land to James Carden, Granville Co., VA (NC).
Deed
> proved 26 Sep 1804.
> There is a James & Elizabeth Carden that are listed in Orange Co., NC
as
> Grantors in book 25, pgs 298, 339, 340 & 495 in 1832, and a James
Carden,
> et
> al in book 29, pg 508 on 15 Nov 1841; and as Grantee in book 29, pg
170,
> 14
> Aug 1840.
> WIFE - Elizabeth Fuller, born about 1763, Granville County, (VA)
North
> Carolina.
> Elizabeth's headstone is the one at the Carden Cemetery that reads:
"Grand
> Mother-Wife of James Carden".
>
> CHILD 1 - John Carden, born abt 1784, Granville County, (VA) North
> Carolina. No marriage or family information.
> >From Claire Patterson, 3847 W. Lane Ave, Phoenix AZ, 85051, 17 Dec
> >1990.
> Jennifer Lewis states that John died in North Carolina in 1834.
>
> CHILD 2 - James Fuller Carden, born 12 Oct 1786, Mecklenburg County,
> North Carolina. Died 1 Oct 1855, Sebastian County, Arkansas. Married
> 1st, Susannah Floyd, 8 Oct 1810 in North Carolina. No known children.
> Married 2nd Jane Morrow. They were married in Franklin County,
> Tennessee in 1817. That part of Franklin County became part of Coffee
> County in 1836. James Fuller Carden, along with the Morrow's and
> Ward's were among the families who had obtained their lands as bounty
> for serving in the War of 1812. They were in the Battle of New Orleans
> with Andrew Jackson. James and
> his family came to Sebastian County about 1850. A child of his was
buried
> in
> the old Morrow Cemetery (now called the Ward or Williamson Cemetery)
in
> 1850.
>
> CHILD 6- Leonard Ansel Carden, born abt 1798, Granville County, North
> Carolina, died before 8 May 1853, Jackson County, Alabama. Married
> Margaret "Peggy" Berry about 1820, Franklin County, Tennessee.
> Leonard Ansel's estate was probated 8 May 1856 in Jackson County, AL.
> Administrator was John Berry, Margaret Carden and James S. Carden.
Will
> book
> "K", page 29. There was an estate sale on 10 Mar 1856.
> Valley Leaves Vol. #11, Jackson County, June, 1977
> JACKSON COUNTY PROBATE RECORDS
> Note: This entry is somewhat confusing in that it begins on Page 22
and is
> completed on Page 31. It appears that Pages 23 through 30 were tipped
into
> this book and are possibly part of the first pages in the book. I am
> giving
> this entry in its entirety.
> Page 22. "The undersigned by leave as the Administrator of the estate
of
> Leonard Cardin, Dec'd, late of said county, to submit for your
approval
> the
> following report of the sale of the slaves belonging to the estate of
the
> Decendent to wit: "Eliza & her three children to Johnathan Latham -
$2050.
> and took his notes therefore with E. C. Williams & Thos. Latham, dated
> 11th
> March 1856 & due 12 months after date,
> "Preston the negro man sold at the same time to James Hunter for
$1314.
> 00,
> and took his note therefor with James F. Graham and Wm. C. Berry dated
and
> due as above stated.
> "Jane the Negro Girl to Margarett Cardin onto[ ?I the same time and
place
> for $900. 00, took her note therefor with Wm. C. Berry and . "
[Note:
> rest of sentence missing.
> Page 31. ". .. Joseph Berry ... above set .. 'Said sale held at
residence
> of
> the late Leonard Cardin on March 10, 1856. Signed by John Berry,
Margaret
> Berry, and James S. Cardin. The land of the estate sold same day and
> purchased by James S. Cardin for $3700. on 12 month credit with two
> securities and with estate retaining a lein until property paid for.
> Cardin
> failed to comply with order of sale and real estate now considered
unsold.
> Heirs asked Probate Court for another time to sell real estate. Signed
by
> John Berry, Margaret Cardin, and James L. Cardin, administrators of
> Leonard
> Cardin, deceased. Dated May 8, 1856.
> Valley Leaves Vol. #12, Jackson County, June, 1978
> Probate Records- 1855-1856
> Page 67-68. LEONARD CARDEN Estate [Also written Leornard & Lenard].
> Inventory. Oct. 19, 1853. John Berry and James L. Cardin,
Administrators.
> John G. Dixon, Probate Judge. Among this estate's assets were notes on
> Isaac
> Denton, Richard Kelly, William W. Berry, Jacob Wilson, James A.
Coffey,
> Joab
> Willson, John Berry, A. C. Howell, William Hunter, and James Cardin.
> Pages 68-69. LEONARD CARDEN Estate. Jan. 21, 1856. Annual Settlement.
> Margaret Cardin, John Berry, and James L. Cardin, Admrls. The amount
of
> sale
> of personal property was $578.51. Monies recd. on outstanding notes
from
> following persons:
> Miller Joab Willson
> W. Berry John Berry
> William P. Coffey
> Jas. L. Carden
> Payments by the estate made to: N. Robinson, B. L. Russell, J. G.
> Blackwell,
> G. W. Gist (printer), Russ (tax collector), Byrom P. Dwyre, and Joseph
> Berry.
> Valley Leaves Vol. #13, Jackson County, June, 1979
> Probate Records 1856-1857
> Page 122-123 Estate of Lenard Cardin
> John Berry, guardian of John L. Cardin, Lenard Cardin, Margaret
Cardin,
> and
> Sarah L. Cardin, heirs of Lenard Cardin, decd., presented account and
sale
> of personal property from the estate of Lenard Cardin, decd.
>
> CHILD 8 - Reuben Carden, born about 1805, in either Orange County or
> Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, died Sept 1852, Coffee County,
> Tennessee. Married 15 June 1825, Coffee County, Tennessee Sarah
> "Sally" Henry. Sarah Henry was born on February 28, 1806 in Tennessee
> and died February 14, 1893 in Coffee County, TN. Reuben's will is
> filed in Will Book "0", p115, Coffee County, TN. He is buried in the
> Carden Cemetery in Coffee County but does not have a headstone.
> Their children were: William Lewis, James A., Martin A., Lucinda J.,
> Robert
> C., Alexander, and Martha. Abstract of Will of Rueben Carden
> REUBEN CARDEN
> Original Book 0, pg 115; book1 pg 233 WPA
> Date Written: 4-21-1852
> Wife Sally (also Sarah) Carden to receive tract I live on and tract I
> bought
> from John Eoff, in all 302 acres. Son Robert C. Carden to have his
> mother's
> 302 acres after her death.
> Son William L. Carden and Son Martin A. Carden and Daughter Lewcinday
[as
> found in original; transcribed in book as Lucinda] J. Jackson to have
land
> I
> bought from Thomas Hill and Henry Powers on W side of Duck River. Son
> James
> A. Carden to have $1 only
> Slaves: Clark, Jerry, Martha, Matilda and child; Peter.
> Rest of property to be sold and proceeds divided among first four
children
> above.
> Executor: none Date Proven: 10-4-1852
> Witnesses: Robert McGuire, Elijah J. McGuire
>
> CHILD 9- Lewis Carden Sr., born 17 May 1809, Siloam Springs, Surry
> County, North Carolina, died 26 Sept 1887, Manchester, Coffee County,
> Tennessee, buried Carden Cemetery ,Manchester, Coffee County,
> Tennessee. Married Catherine Simpson 18 Jan 1830, Coffee County,
> Tennessee. Lewis was listed as Lucius on the 1850 census. See Jean R.
> May FGS. See "Goodspeed's Histories of Cannon, Coffee, DeKalb, Warren
> & White Co's of TN. (DPL G976.8G6289can).
>
> CHILD 11 - Robert Franklin Carden Sr. born 1810, Coffee County,
> Tennessee, Died 1873 Pea Ridge, Benton County, Arkansas. Married
> Rachael Mitchell 1829, Coffee County, Tennessee.
> Robert, according to a letter from O.C. Carden, dated 28 Jul 1914,
Shelty,
> IA., went to Arkansas. (according to other information the family
moved to
> Benton County, Arkansas in 1837).
> Claire Patterson 3847 W Lane Ave, Phoenix AZ 80501, 17 Dec 1990 states
he
> was born abt 1797 in North Carolina. Robert's middle name given by Jim
> Danforth (jimd(a)winqs-n-things.com)
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 16:55:05 -0600
From: "Martha" <dixiepeanut(a)comcast.net>
Subject: [CARDEN] Blood Type Poll
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Carden folks...
Would you all (or y'all <s> ) mind taking an anonymous poll about your
blood type?
You may be (or already have been) asked to do this on several Rootsweb
lists as
it's an ongoing project to help more specifically determine family line
origins by
the expert Genetic Genealogist Mark Wade and a few others. He has
initiated
blood type polls like this one on several other Rootsweb lists. As DNA
projects have become more 'fine tuned' in the last few years these
experts have come to
believe that the genes determining blood type are more connected to
family origins than previously thought.
Blood groups are passed down in the maternal lines in the same manner as
in the paternal ones. Let's face it, we live in a patriarchal society,
folks. Women's
names tend to change at marriage and also
a woman only inherits her mother's maternal line DNA for certain
attributes, in
this case blood groups are included.
This is an anonymous poll. Voters' names will not be shown. If you do
choose to respond to it, you can do so privately, or via the list. I'll
keep your email address
private if it's sent to me, or if you choose to respond publically on
the list, that will show up how you voted. Either way is ok... it's
just up to you.
Please respond only if you have a bloodline connection to
Carden/in/an/on/ing surname either through your mother (maternal) or
your father (paternal) line (or
lines). Several weeks after initiating this poll, I'll report the
results to this list
via the format shown below :
For instance: my blood type is B+ ; my Carden relationship is
maternal.
Thanks, Martha
========================================================================
===
What is your blood group? Is your relationship to Carden/in'an'on -
maternal or paternal.
O+ M or P
O- M or P
A+ M or P
A- M or P
B+ M or P
B- M or P
AB+ M or P
AB- M or P
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."
-- Thomas Jefferson
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:33:10 +1000
From: "John Carden" <johncarden(a)vtown.com.au>
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Blood Type Poll
To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
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A+ Paternal. (John Carden (Barnane in Australia) dob: 10 April 1940)
-----Original Message-----
From: carden-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:carden-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of Martha
Sent: Monday, 4 February 2008 8:55 AM
To: CARDEN List
Subject: [CARDEN] Blood Type Poll
Carden folks...
Would you all (or y'all <s> ) mind taking an anonymous poll about your
blood type?
You may be (or already have been) asked to do this on several Rootsweb
lists as
it's an ongoing project to help more specifically determine family line
origins by
the expert Genetic Genealogist Mark Wade and a few others. He has
initiated
blood type polls like this one on several other Rootsweb lists. As DNA
projects have become more 'fine tuned' in the last few years these
experts have come to
believe that the genes determining blood type are more connected to
family origins than previously thought.
Blood groups are passed down in the maternal lines in the same manner as
in the paternal ones. Let's face it, we live in a patriarchal society,
folks. Women's
names tend to change at marriage and also
a woman only inherits her mother's maternal line DNA for certain
attributes, in
this case blood groups are included.
This is an anonymous poll. Voters' names will not be shown. If you do
choose to respond to it, you can do so privately, or via the list. I'll
keep your email address
private if it's sent to me, or if you choose to respond publically on
the list, that will show up how you voted. Either way is ok... it's
just up to you.
Please respond only if you have a bloodline connection to
Carden/in/an/on/ing surname either through your mother (maternal) or
your father (paternal) line (or
lines). Several weeks after initiating this poll, I'll report the
results to this list
via the format shown below :
For instance: my blood type is B+ ; my Carden relationship is
maternal.
Thanks, Martha
========================================================================
===
What is your blood group? Is your relationship to Carden/in'an'on -
maternal or paternal.
O+ M or P
O- M or P
A+ M or P
A- M or P
B+ M or P
B- M or P
AB+ M or P
AB- M or P
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."
-- Thomas Jefferson
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Martha
In the History of Arkansas, Perry, Co. John Wilson CARDEN'S father was
of Scotch and English descent. He was born in Orange Co. North Carolina
in 1801.
My husbands great grandmother was Mary Lucinda Carden, daughter of John
Wilson. His mother and children moved to Carroll, Co. Tn. after James
died in 1854 in Orange. Co.
I don't think it counts, but Eds blood type is 0 positive.
Diane
,
>Results of CARDEN BLOOD TYPE POLL
>
>This info. is a little early, but I haven't gotten any new results in
>the last couple of days. If there are any more responses later on, I'll
>update. What about the folks in England and Australia who are on this
>list? Arthur, what
>about you? Will you be responding ?
>
>BTW, since Rootsweb allows only 'plain text', the information below may
>not come thru without looking 'garbled'. If that happens, I'll re-send
>the results in a 'line by line' synopsis.
>
>================================================================
>
>
>Total # of Respondants as of 2/13/2008 = 29 (with 1 unknown)
>
>Blood /Rh Factor Total % B.G. Inheritance - World
>Compare
>Group # Maternal / Paternal Av.
>% Cardens
>
> O + 11 40 5 6
>38 Av
> O - 3 10 1 2
>7 Av
> A + 7 25 3 4
>34 Low
> A - 1 3 0 1
>6 Low
> B + 5 18 3 2
>9 High
> B - 0 0 0 0
>2 Low
> AB + 1* 3* unk unk
>3 Av
> AB - 0* - unk unk
>1 unk
>
>
>Another question I might have is this...
>For those of you who have had your y-DNA typed, do most of you have
>Haplogroup R1b or R1a ? If you've had deeper testing you may have more
>letters & # as extensions of those two basic groups. Do any of you have
>Haplogroups that differ from those, ex: Group E or I, for instance?
>It's occurring to me more and more that our Carden ancestors, may have
>been Ulster Scots, esp. looking at these few blood types.
>
>On my paternal side I'm abt. 80% Irish, 15% Scottish; the rest is a
>smat-
>tering of other European ethnic groups that aren't Celtic, Gaelic,
>Pictish
>or Welch. I have almost no Anglo-Saxon blood-ties among my paternal
>ancestors; and our family's dominant blood type is B+. But that's what
>you might expect for someone whose paternal ancestors came to America
>from Co. Cork, in SW Ireland.
>
>Some group studies have been done recently to determine the % of certain
>
>blood types in differing regions of Ireland. In the Northern 1/2 of the
>
>country the A+ type is most common; while in the South the B+ type is in
>the
>majority.
>
>Anyone have thoughts on this? Are the majority of us more Irish than
>Scottish? What did the explanation of your DNA results tell you?
>
>-- Thanks, Martha
>
>
>
>
>
Subject: Results of CARDEN BLOOD TYPE POLL
Yep, plain text 'fouls up' the margins.
Here are the results in compact, line by line form.
Hope it makes some sense.
... Martha
================================================================
Total # of Respondants to Poll as of 2/13/2008 =
29 (with 1 unknown)
BloodType,Rh,Total#,% /type, #/M/Female,World Av.%, Compare
O +, 11, 40, 5, 6, 38, Average
O - , 3, 10, 1, 2, 7, Average
A + , 7, 25, 3, 4, 34, Low
A - , 1, 3, 0, 1, 6, Low
B + , 5, 18, 3, 2, 9, High
B - , 0, 0, 0, 0, 2, Low
AB +, 1*,3*,uk,uk, 3, Average
AB -, 0*, - ,uk,uk, 1, uk
------------------------------------------
SUMMARY: Carden type % compared to World type %
O type = Average
A type = Low
B type = High (B+); Low (B-)
AB type = Average - Low
Results of CARDEN BLOOD TYPE POLL
This info. is a little early, but I haven't gotten any new results in
the last couple of days. If there are any more responses later on, I'll
update. What about the folks in England and Australia who are on this
list? Arthur, what
about you? Will you be responding ?
BTW, since Rootsweb allows only 'plain text', the information below may
not come thru without looking 'garbled'. If that happens, I'll re-send
the results in a 'line by line' synopsis.
================================================================
Total # of Respondants as of 2/13/2008 = 29 (with 1 unknown)
Blood /Rh Factor Total % B.G. Inheritance - World
Compare
Group # Maternal / Paternal Av.
% Cardens
O + 11 40 5 6
38 Av
O - 3 10 1 2
7 Av
A + 7 25 3 4
34 Low
A - 1 3 0 1
6 Low
B + 5 18 3 2
9 High
B - 0 0 0 0
2 Low
AB + 1* 3* unk unk
3 Av
AB - 0* - unk unk
1 unk
Another question I might have is this...
For those of you who have had your y-DNA typed, do most of you have
Haplogroup R1b or R1a ? If you've had deeper testing you may have more
letters & # as extensions of those two basic groups. Do any of you have
Haplogroups that differ from those, ex: Group E or I, for instance?
It's occurring to me more and more that our Carden ancestors, may have
been Ulster Scots, esp. looking at these few blood types.
On my paternal side I'm abt. 80% Irish, 15% Scottish; the rest is a
smat-
tering of other European ethnic groups that aren't Celtic, Gaelic,
Pictish
or Welch. I have almost no Anglo-Saxon blood-ties among my paternal
ancestors; and our family's dominant blood type is B+. But that's what
you might expect for someone whose paternal ancestors came to America
from Co. Cork, in SW Ireland.
Some group studies have been done recently to determine the % of certain
blood types in differing regions of Ireland. In the Northern 1/2 of the
country the A+ type is most common; while in the South the B+ type is in
the
majority.
Anyone have thoughts on this? Are the majority of us more Irish than
Scottish? What did the explanation of your DNA results tell you?
-- Thanks, Martha
------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------
* - respondant wasn't sure their AB blood type was "+" or "-" ;
probability says it's most likely AB+
unk = unknown
FYI --- If some others on the list don't know their blood type. I may
be 'preaching to the choir' on this topic, but there are several methods
to use in finding out if this information is in your medical records.
My 'sermon' is that you should already know your type, your spouse's (if
you have one) and those of your children & grandchildren. Many people
give blood bf/ they have scheduled surgery, but what if you, or one of
your family members, needs blood in an emergency situation> If you knew
blood types of your closest family members, you might be ablet o call on
one or more of them to give in an emergency. Otherwise you'll have to
depend on the local blood bank to supply whatever they had, and from
whomever they've had to get it to fulfill their required 'quota'. I
worked for the Red Cross some years ago, and found out there's no
telling who has AIDS, STDs, etc. that don't show up in a regular
screening at
the time of donation.
Here are some ways you can find out your blood type:
1. if you've had surgery in the last 5 yr.,
2. know both of your parents' blood types,
3. have given blood in the last 3 yr. (Red Cross keeps records),
4. contact your primary care physician
All agencies of this type are bound by law to reveal your medical
records
to YOU upon your request. If it's in your medical records, a hospital or
DR. is bound by law to tell you whatever you want to know. You may have
to fill out some forms, but they can't deny you anything they've
discovered
during your time of treatment, donation, etc. with them.
;)
-----Original Message-----
From: carden-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:carden-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of carden-request(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 5:34 PM
To: carden(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: CARDEN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13
Today's Topics:
1. James J. Carden (Chuck Carden)
2. Re: James J. Carden (JWilliams)
3. Blood Type Poll (Martha)
4. Re: Blood Type Poll (John Carden)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 10:51:57 -0500
From: "Chuck Carden" <chuckcarden(a)comcast.net>
Subject: [CARDEN] James J. Carden
To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
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Martha (and anyone else that is interested),
Below is what I have on the male children of James J. Carden. If anyone
has additional information, or can correct what I have, I would
appreciate it. Thanks, Chuck Carden
James J. Carden was born 1856, Goochland County, Virginia, son of Robert
and Phyllis Woolbank Carden. James was married 20 Jan 1784 Granville
County (VA) North Carolina. Stephen Fuller and Bennet Searcy, were
surety and witness. "Marriage Records, 1765-1810, Mecklenburg Co., VA
(LDS SLC book 975.5645V25e) and DPL
G929.3755M466e1)
There is a James Cardin of the 1786,1790 & 1800 NC state census in the
Fishing Creek District, next to Ezekiel Fuller. Ezekiel Fuller, of
Franklin Co., NC deeds to James Carden, of Granville Co., NC., land on 4
June 1787. (Deed Book " pg 545). James Carden sold land in Granville
Co., NC to Matthew Garrett, of Warren Co., NC, 7 Nov 1794 (Deed Book
"P", pg 138) James Carden deeds land to Robert Carden, 6 Dec 1791 (Deed
Book "Q", p 120) James Carden, Joel Moore & Richard Moore, all of
Granville Co. sold land jointly to Warner Taylor, Granville Co. on 20
May 1805 (Deed Book "S", pg
107)
He is not on the 1795 Mecklenburg Co., VA tax list.
He is supposed to be on the 1840 Coffee Co., TN census, pg 171. Ezekiel
Fuller deeded land to James Carden, Granville Co., VA (NC). Deed proved
26 Sep 1804. There is a James & Elizabeth Carden that are listed in
Orange Co., NC as Grantors in book 25, pgs 298, 339, 340 & 495 in 1832,
and a James Carden, et al in book 29, pg 508 on 15 Nov 1841; and as
Grantee in book 29, pg 170, 14 Aug 1840.
WIFE - Elizabeth Fuller, born about 1763, Granville County, (VA)
North
Carolina.
Elizabeth's headstone is the one at the Carden Cemetery that reads:
"Grand Mother-Wife of James Carden".
CHILD 1 - John Carden, born abt 1784, Granville County, (VA) North
Carolina.
No marriage or family information.
>From Claire Patterson, 3847 W. Lane Ave, Phoenix AZ, 85051, 17 Dec
>1990.
Jennifer Lewis states that John died in North Carolina in 1834.
CHILD 2 - James Fuller Carden, born 12 Oct 1786, Mecklenburg County,
North
Carolina. Died 1 Oct 1855, Sebastian County, Arkansas. Married 1st,
Susannah Floyd, 8 Oct 1810 in North Carolina. No known children. Married
2nd Jane Morrow. They were married in Franklin County, Tennessee in
1817. That part of Franklin County became part of Coffee County in 1836.
James Fuller Carden, along with the Morrow's and Ward's were among the
families who had obtained their lands as bounty for serving in the War
of 1812. They were in the Battle of New Orleans with Andrew Jackson.
James and his family came to Sebastian County about 1850. A child of his
was buried in the old Morrow Cemetery (now called the Ward or Williamson
Cemetery) in 1850.
CHILD 6- Leonard Ansel Carden, born abt 1798, Granville County, North
Carolina, died before 8 May 1853, Jackson County, Alabama. Married
Margaret "Peggy" Berry about 1820, Franklin County, Tennessee. Leonard
Ansel's estate was probated 8 May 1856 in Jackson County, AL.
Administrator was John Berry, Margaret Carden and James S. Carden. Will
book "K", page 29. There was an estate sale on 10 Mar 1856. Valley
Leaves Vol. #11, Jackson County, June, 1977 JACKSON COUNTY PROBATE
RECORDS
Note: This entry is somewhat confusing in that it begins on Page 22 and
is completed on Page 31. It appears that Pages 23 through 30 were tipped
into this book and are possibly part of the first pages in the book. I
am giving this entry in its entirety. Page 22. "The undersigned by leave
as the Administrator of the estate of Leonard Cardin, Dec'd, late of
said county, to submit for your approval the following report of the
sale of the slaves belonging to the estate of the Decendent to wit:
"Eliza & her three children to Johnathan Latham - $2050. and took his
notes therefore with E. C. Williams & Thos. Latham, dated 11th March
1856 & due 12 months after date, "Preston the negro man sold at the same
time to James Hunter for $1314. 00, and took his note therefor with
James F. Graham and Wm. C. Berry dated and due as above stated. "Jane
the Negro Girl to Margarett Cardin onto[ ?I the same time and place
for $900. 00, took her note therefor with Wm. C. Berry and . " [Note:
rest of sentence missing.
Page 31. ". .. Joseph Berry ... above set .. 'Said sale held at
residence of the late Leonard Cardin on March 10, 1856. Signed by John
Berry, Margaret Berry, and James S. Cardin. The land of the estate sold
same day and purchased by James S. Cardin for $3700. on 12 month credit
with two securities and with estate retaining a lein until property paid
for. Cardin failed to comply with order of sale and real estate now
considered unsold. Heirs asked Probate Court for another time to sell
real estate. Signed by John Berry, Margaret Cardin, and James L. Cardin,
administrators of Leonard Cardin, deceased. Dated May 8, 1856. Valley
Leaves Vol. #12, Jackson County, June, 1978 Probate Records- 1855-1856
Page 67-68. LEONARD CARDEN Estate [Also written Leornard & Lenard].
Inventory. Oct. 19, 1853. John Berry and James L. Cardin,
Administrators. John G. Dixon, Probate Judge. Among this estate's assets
were notes on Isaac Denton, Richard Kelly, William W. Berry, Jacob
Wilson, James A. Coffey, Joab Willson, John Berry, A. C. Howell, William
Hunter, and James Cardin. Pages 68-69. LEONARD CARDEN Estate. Jan. 21,
1856. Annual Settlement. Margaret Cardin, John Berry, and James L.
Cardin, Admrls. The amount of sale of personal property was $578.51.
Monies recd. on outstanding notes from following persons: Miller Joab
Willson W. Berry John Berry William P. Coffey Jas. L. Carden Payments by
the estate made to: N. Robinson, B. L. Russell, J. G. Blackwell, G. W.
Gist (printer), Russ (tax collector), Byrom P. Dwyre, and Joseph Berry.
Valley Leaves Vol. #13, Jackson County, June, 1979 Probate Records
1856-1857 Page 122-123 Estate of Lenard Cardin John Berry, guardian of
John L. Cardin, Lenard Cardin, Margaret Cardin, and Sarah L. Cardin,
heirs of Lenard Cardin, decd., presented account and sale of personal
property from the estate of Lenard Cardin, decd.
CHILD 8 - Reuben Carden, born about 1805, in either Orange County or
Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, died Sept 1852, Coffee County,
Tennessee. Married 15 June 1825, Coffee County, Tennessee Sarah "Sally"
Henry. Sarah Henry was born on February 28, 1806 in Tennessee and died
February 14, 1893 in Coffee County, TN. Reuben's will is filed in Will
Book "0", p115, Coffee County, TN. He is buried in the Carden Cemetery
in Coffee County but does not have a headstone. Their children were:
William Lewis, James A., Martin A., Lucinda J., Robert C., Alexander,
and Martha. Abstract of Will of Rueben Carden REUBEN CARDEN Original
Book 0, pg 115; book1 pg 233 WPA Date Written: 4-21-1852 Wife Sally
(also Sarah) Carden to receive tract I live on and tract I bought from
John Eoff, in all 302 acres. Son Robert C. Carden to have his mother's
302 acres after her death. Son William L. Carden and Son Martin A.
Carden and Daughter Lewcinday [as found in original; transcribed in book
as Lucinda] J. Jackson to have land I bought from Thomas Hill and Henry
Powers on W side of Duck River. Son James A. Carden to have $1 only
Slaves: Clark, Jerry, Martha, Matilda and child; Peter.
Rest of property to be sold and proceeds divided among first four
children above.
Executor: none Date Proven: 10-4-1852
Witnesses: Robert McGuire, Elijah J. McGuire
CHILD 9- Lewis Carden Sr., born 17 May 1809, Siloam Springs, Surry
County, North Carolina, died 26 Sept 1887, Manchester, Coffee County,
Tennessee, buried Carden Cemetery ,Manchester, Coffee County, Tennessee.
Married Catherine Simpson 18 Jan 1830, Coffee County, Tennessee.
Lewis was listed as Lucius on the 1850 census. See Jean R. May FGS. See
"Goodspeed's Histories of Cannon, Coffee, DeKalb, Warren & White Co's of
TN. (DPL G976.8G6289can).
CHILD 11 - Robert Franklin Carden Sr. born 1810, Coffee County,
Tennessee, Died 1873 Pea Ridge, Benton County, Arkansas. Married Rachael
Mitchell 1829, Coffee County, Tennessee. Robert, according to a letter
from O.C. Carden, dated 28 Jul 1914, Shelty, IA., went to Arkansas.
(according to other information the family moved to Benton County,
Arkansas in 1837). Claire Patterson 3847 W Lane Ave, Phoenix AZ 80501,
17 Dec 1990 states he was born abt 1797 in North Carolina. Robert's
middle name given by Jim Danforth (jimd(a)winqs-n-things.com)
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 09:50:10 -0800
From: JWilliams <jfwilli(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] James J. Carden
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That is great! The documentation is really nice too. Thank you for
getting this out! Now I can put documentation down as a ref. Jeff
On Feb 2, 2008 6:49 PM, Chuck Carden <chuckcarden(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> Martha (and anyone else that is interested),
> Below is what I have on the male children of James J. Carden. If
> anyone has additional information, or can correct what I have, I would
> appreciate it. Thanks,
> Chuck Carden
>
>
> James J. Carden was born 1856, Goochland County, Virginia, son of
> Robert and Phyllis Woolbank Carden.
> James was married 20 Jan 1784 Granville County (VA) North Carolina.
> Stephen
> Fuller and Bennet Searcy, were surety and witness. "Marriage Records,
> 1765-1810, Mecklenburg Co., VA (LDS SLC book 975.5645V25e) and DPL
> G929.3755M466e1)
> There is a James Cardin of the 1786,1790 & 1800 NC state census in the
> Fishing Creek District, next to Ezekiel Fuller. Ezekiel Fuller, of
> Franklin
> Co., NC deeds to James Carden, of Granville Co., NC., land on 4 June
1787.
> (Deed Book " pg 545).
> James Carden sold land in Granville Co., NC to Matthew Garrett, of
Warren
> Co., NC, 7 Nov 1794 (Deed Book "P", pg 138)
> James Carden deeds land to Robert Carden, 6 Dec 1791 (Deed Book "Q", p
> 120)
> James Carden, Joel Moore & Richard Moore, all of Granville Co. sold
land
> jointly to Warner Taylor, Granville Co. on 20 May 1805 (Deed Book "S",
pg
> 107)
> He is not on the 1795 Mecklenburg Co., VA tax list.
> He is supposed to be on the 1840 Coffee Co., TN census, pg 171.
> Ezekiel Fuller deeded land to James Carden, Granville Co., VA (NC).
Deed
> proved 26 Sep 1804.
> There is a James & Elizabeth Carden that are listed in Orange Co., NC
as
> Grantors in book 25, pgs 298, 339, 340 & 495 in 1832, and a James
Carden,
> et
> al in book 29, pg 508 on 15 Nov 1841; and as Grantee in book 29, pg
170,
> 14
> Aug 1840.
> WIFE - Elizabeth Fuller, born about 1763, Granville County, (VA)
North
> Carolina.
> Elizabeth's headstone is the one at the Carden Cemetery that reads:
"Grand
> Mother-Wife of James Carden".
>
> CHILD 1 - John Carden, born abt 1784, Granville County, (VA) North
> Carolina. No marriage or family information.
> >From Claire Patterson, 3847 W. Lane Ave, Phoenix AZ, 85051, 17 Dec
> >1990.
> Jennifer Lewis states that John died in North Carolina in 1834.
>
> CHILD 2 - James Fuller Carden, born 12 Oct 1786, Mecklenburg County,
> North Carolina. Died 1 Oct 1855, Sebastian County, Arkansas. Married
> 1st, Susannah Floyd, 8 Oct 1810 in North Carolina. No known children.
> Married 2nd Jane Morrow. They were married in Franklin County,
> Tennessee in 1817. That part of Franklin County became part of Coffee
> County in 1836. James Fuller Carden, along with the Morrow's and
> Ward's were among the families who had obtained their lands as bounty
> for serving in the War of 1812. They were in the Battle of New Orleans
> with Andrew Jackson. James and
> his family came to Sebastian County about 1850. A child of his was
buried
> in
> the old Morrow Cemetery (now called the Ward or Williamson Cemetery)
in
> 1850.
>
> CHILD 6- Leonard Ansel Carden, born abt 1798, Granville County, North
> Carolina, died before 8 May 1853, Jackson County, Alabama. Married
> Margaret "Peggy" Berry about 1820, Franklin County, Tennessee.
> Leonard Ansel's estate was probated 8 May 1856 in Jackson County, AL.
> Administrator was John Berry, Margaret Carden and James S. Carden.
Will
> book
> "K", page 29. There was an estate sale on 10 Mar 1856.
> Valley Leaves Vol. #11, Jackson County, June, 1977
> JACKSON COUNTY PROBATE RECORDS
> Note: This entry is somewhat confusing in that it begins on Page 22
and is
> completed on Page 31. It appears that Pages 23 through 30 were tipped
into
> this book and are possibly part of the first pages in the book. I am
> giving
> this entry in its entirety.
> Page 22. "The undersigned by leave as the Administrator of the estate
of
> Leonard Cardin, Dec'd, late of said county, to submit for your
approval
> the
> following report of the sale of the slaves belonging to the estate of
the
> Decendent to wit: "Eliza & her three children to Johnathan Latham -
$2050.
> and took his notes therefore with E. C. Williams & Thos. Latham, dated
> 11th
> March 1856 & due 12 months after date,
> "Preston the negro man sold at the same time to James Hunter for
$1314.
> 00,
> and took his note therefor with James F. Graham and Wm. C. Berry dated
and
> due as above stated.
> "Jane the Negro Girl to Margarett Cardin onto[ ?I the same time and
place
> for $900. 00, took her note therefor with Wm. C. Berry and . "
[Note:
> rest of sentence missing.
> Page 31. ". .. Joseph Berry ... above set .. 'Said sale held at
residence
> of
> the late Leonard Cardin on March 10, 1856. Signed by John Berry,
Margaret
> Berry, and James S. Cardin. The land of the estate sold same day and
> purchased by James S. Cardin for $3700. on 12 month credit with two
> securities and with estate retaining a lein until property paid for.
> Cardin
> failed to comply with order of sale and real estate now considered
unsold.
> Heirs asked Probate Court for another time to sell real estate. Signed
by
> John Berry, Margaret Cardin, and James L. Cardin, administrators of
> Leonard
> Cardin, deceased. Dated May 8, 1856.
> Valley Leaves Vol. #12, Jackson County, June, 1978
> Probate Records- 1855-1856
> Page 67-68. LEONARD CARDEN Estate [Also written Leornard & Lenard].
> Inventory. Oct. 19, 1853. John Berry and James L. Cardin,
Administrators.
> John G. Dixon, Probate Judge. Among this estate's assets were notes on
> Isaac
> Denton, Richard Kelly, William W. Berry, Jacob Wilson, James A.
Coffey,
> Joab
> Willson, John Berry, A. C. Howell, William Hunter, and James Cardin.
> Pages 68-69. LEONARD CARDEN Estate. Jan. 21, 1856. Annual Settlement.
> Margaret Cardin, John Berry, and James L. Cardin, Admrls. The amount
of
> sale
> of personal property was $578.51. Monies recd. on outstanding notes
from
> following persons:
> Miller Joab Willson
> W. Berry John Berry
> William P. Coffey
> Jas. L. Carden
> Payments by the estate made to: N. Robinson, B. L. Russell, J. G.
> Blackwell,
> G. W. Gist (printer), Russ (tax collector), Byrom P. Dwyre, and Joseph
> Berry.
> Valley Leaves Vol. #13, Jackson County, June, 1979
> Probate Records 1856-1857
> Page 122-123 Estate of Lenard Cardin
> John Berry, guardian of John L. Cardin, Lenard Cardin, Margaret
Cardin,
> and
> Sarah L. Cardin, heirs of Lenard Cardin, decd., presented account and
sale
> of personal property from the estate of Lenard Cardin, decd.
>
> CHILD 8 - Reuben Carden, born about 1805, in either Orange County or
> Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, died Sept 1852, Coffee County,
> Tennessee. Married 15 June 1825, Coffee County, Tennessee Sarah
> "Sally" Henry. Sarah Henry was born on February 28, 1806 in Tennessee
> and died February 14, 1893 in Coffee County, TN. Reuben's will is
> filed in Will Book "0", p115, Coffee County, TN. He is buried in the
> Carden Cemetery in Coffee County but does not have a headstone.
> Their children were: William Lewis, James A., Martin A., Lucinda J.,
> Robert
> C., Alexander, and Martha. Abstract of Will of Rueben Carden
> REUBEN CARDEN
> Original Book 0, pg 115; book1 pg 233 WPA
> Date Written: 4-21-1852
> Wife Sally (also Sarah) Carden to receive tract I live on and tract I
> bought
> from John Eoff, in all 302 acres. Son Robert C. Carden to have his
> mother's
> 302 acres after her death.
> Son William L. Carden and Son Martin A. Carden and Daughter Lewcinday
[as
> found in original; transcribed in book as Lucinda] J. Jackson to have
land
> I
> bought from Thomas Hill and Henry Powers on W side of Duck River. Son
> James
> A. Carden to have $1 only
> Slaves: Clark, Jerry, Martha, Matilda and child; Peter.
> Rest of property to be sold and proceeds divided among first four
children
> above.
> Executor: none Date Proven: 10-4-1852
> Witnesses: Robert McGuire, Elijah J. McGuire
>
> CHILD 9- Lewis Carden Sr., born 17 May 1809, Siloam Springs, Surry
> County, North Carolina, died 26 Sept 1887, Manchester, Coffee County,
> Tennessee, buried Carden Cemetery ,Manchester, Coffee County,
> Tennessee. Married Catherine Simpson 18 Jan 1830, Coffee County,
> Tennessee. Lewis was listed as Lucius on the 1850 census. See Jean R.
> May FGS. See "Goodspeed's Histories of Cannon, Coffee, DeKalb, Warren
> & White Co's of TN. (DPL G976.8G6289can).
>
> CHILD 11 - Robert Franklin Carden Sr. born 1810, Coffee County,
> Tennessee, Died 1873 Pea Ridge, Benton County, Arkansas. Married
> Rachael Mitchell 1829, Coffee County, Tennessee.
> Robert, according to a letter from O.C. Carden, dated 28 Jul 1914,
Shelty,
> IA., went to Arkansas. (according to other information the family
moved to
> Benton County, Arkansas in 1837).
> Claire Patterson 3847 W Lane Ave, Phoenix AZ 80501, 17 Dec 1990 states
he
> was born abt 1797 in North Carolina. Robert's middle name given by Jim
> Danforth (jimd(a)winqs-n-things.com)
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 16:55:05 -0600
From: "Martha" <dixiepeanut(a)comcast.net>
Subject: [CARDEN] Blood Type Poll
To: "CARDEN List" <CARDEN(a)rootsweb.com>
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Carden folks...
Would you all (or y'all <s> ) mind taking an anonymous poll about your
blood type?
You may be (or already have been) asked to do this on several Rootsweb
lists as
it's an ongoing project to help more specifically determine family line
origins by
the expert Genetic Genealogist Mark Wade and a few others. He has
initiated
blood type polls like this one on several other Rootsweb lists. As DNA
projects have become more 'fine tuned' in the last few years these
experts have come to
believe that the genes determining blood type are more connected to
family origins than previously thought.
Blood groups are passed down in the maternal lines in the same manner as
in the paternal ones. Let's face it, we live in a patriarchal society,
folks. Women's
names tend to change at marriage and also
a woman only inherits her mother's maternal line DNA for certain
attributes, in
this case blood groups are included.
This is an anonymous poll. Voters' names will not be shown. If you do
choose to respond to it, you can do so privately, or via the list. I'll
keep your email address
private if it's sent to me, or if you choose to respond publically on
the list, that will show up how you voted. Either way is ok... it's
just up to you.
Please respond only if you have a bloodline connection to
Carden/in/an/on/ing surname either through your mother (maternal) or
your father (paternal) line (or
lines). Several weeks after initiating this poll, I'll report the
results to this list
via the format shown below :
For instance: my blood type is B+ ; my Carden relationship is
maternal.
Thanks, Martha
========================================================================
===
What is your blood group? Is your relationship to Carden/in'an'on -
maternal or paternal.
O+ M or P
O- M or P
A+ M or P
A- M or P
B+ M or P
B- M or P
AB+ M or P
AB- M or P
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."
-- Thomas Jefferson
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:33:10 +1000
From: "John Carden" <johncarden(a)vtown.com.au>
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Blood Type Poll
To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
Message-ID: <000601c866bd$237d1070$2101a8c0@yourfaf04c394c>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
A+ Paternal. (John Carden (Barnane in Australia) dob: 10 April 1940)
-----Original Message-----
From: carden-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:carden-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of Martha
Sent: Monday, 4 February 2008 8:55 AM
To: CARDEN List
Subject: [CARDEN] Blood Type Poll
Carden folks...
Would you all (or y'all <s> ) mind taking an anonymous poll about your
blood type?
You may be (or already have been) asked to do this on several Rootsweb
lists as
it's an ongoing project to help more specifically determine family line
origins by
the expert Genetic Genealogist Mark Wade and a few others. He has
initiated
blood type polls like this one on several other Rootsweb lists. As DNA
projects have become more 'fine tuned' in the last few years these
experts have come to
believe that the genes determining blood type are more connected to
family origins than previously thought.
Blood groups are passed down in the maternal lines in the same manner as
in the paternal ones. Let's face it, we live in a patriarchal society,
folks. Women's
names tend to change at marriage and also
a woman only inherits her mother's maternal line DNA for certain
attributes, in
this case blood groups are included.
This is an anonymous poll. Voters' names will not be shown. If you do
choose to respond to it, you can do so privately, or via the list. I'll
keep your email address
private if it's sent to me, or if you choose to respond publically on
the list, that will show up how you voted. Either way is ok... it's
just up to you.
Please respond only if you have a bloodline connection to
Carden/in/an/on/ing surname either through your mother (maternal) or
your father (paternal) line (or
lines). Several weeks after initiating this poll, I'll report the
results to this list
via the format shown below :
For instance: my blood type is B+ ; my Carden relationship is
maternal.
Thanks, Martha
========================================================================
===
What is your blood group? Is your relationship to Carden/in'an'on -
maternal or paternal.
O+ M or P
O- M or P
A+ M or P
A- M or P
B+ M or P
B- M or P
AB+ M or P
AB- M or P
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."
-- Thomas Jefferson
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End of CARDEN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13
*************************************
SILAS LINK CARDEN - NC
Cheryl,
Thanks for the input on Silas Link Carden. He sounds like a fascinating
character for sure.
Also, do you know if your husband's Cardens stayed in NC past 1800, and
if not where they
went from NC? On the 1880 census my 2GGF Carden states that his father
(of whom we
know very little) was b. in NC & his mother in SC. 2GGF Carden was a
man known for ac-
curate record keeping, and the POB given for his mother as SC in that
same census was cor-
rect. Logically it stands to reason that his father's POB was also
correct . That's all the
info. we have regarding proof his POB. So, 3GGF Carden mar. in either
SC, or TN (abt.
1815-6); their 1st child (Stacey Carden Elliott) has a large engraved
obelisk-type tombstone
showing her DOB as 10/4/1817 & her POB as TN. Some sources say that she
was b. in Law-
rence Co, TN, but I'm thinking it could just as well have been Lawrence
Co, AL since this
state was still technically a part of MS Terr. at that time.
By 1818 3GGF Carden had brought his family to Marengo Co, AL as per the
extant marriage
record for his wife's younger sister on the courhouse books there.
Martha
-----Original Message-----
From: carden-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:carden-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of carden-request(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:03 AM
To: carden(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: CARDEN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 22
Today's Topics:
1. Re: CARDEN FAMILY Cemetery - Orange County, NC
(Cherylscarden99(a)cs.com)
2. Re: Blood Type Poll (Runningbull24(a)aol.com)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 15:00:50 EST
From: Cherylscarden99(a)cs.com
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] CARDEN FAMILY Cemetery - Orange County, NC
To: carden(a)rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <c0f.1d9c1229.34e0b1f2(a)cs.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
My husband Fred and I visited this cemetery several years ago when I was
in
culinary school with a kid named Bobby Carden who is descended from
Silas Link
Carden (infamous for his antics as a Confederate soldier). Bobby said
that
his father told him that Silas Link Carden is buried there at the foot
of a
large oak tree in that copse of trees (no marker for him though). He
had never
heard his dad mention the others named there on headstones however. The
small
graveyard is to the left of a private residence and is within one half
mile of
Duke Forest. Fortunately for us there was no one home the day we
hurriedly
looked it over.
Cheryl Carden </HTML>
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:28:21 EST
From: Runningbull24(a)aol.com
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Blood Type Poll
To: carden(a)rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <cfa.296c0122.34e11ad5(a)aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Richard Carden blood type A+
In a message dated 2/3/2008 5:54:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
dixiepeanut(a)comcast.net writes:
Carden folks...
Would you all (or y'all ) mind taking an anonymous poll about your
blood type?
You may be (or already have been) asked to do this on several Rootsweb
lists as
it's an ongoing project to help more specifically determine family line
origins by
the expert Genetic Genealogist Mark Wade and a few others. He has
initiated
blood type polls like this one on several other Rootsweb lists. As DNA
projects have become more 'fine tuned' in the last few years these
experts have come to
believe that the genes determining blood type are more connected to
family origins than previously thought.
Blood groups are passed down in the maternal lines in the same manner
as in the paternal ones. Let's face it, we live in a patriarchal
society, folks. Women's
names tend to change at marriage and also
a woman only inherits her mother's maternal line DNA for certain
attributes, in
this case blood groups are included.
This is an anonymous poll. Voters' names will not be shown. If you do
choose to respond to it, you can do so privately, or via the list.
I'll keep your email address
private if it's sent to me, or if you choose to respond publically on
the list, that
will show up how you voted. Either way is ok... it's just up to you.
Please respond only if you have a bloodline connection to
Carden/in/an/on/ing surname either through your mother (maternal) or
your father (paternal) line (or
lines). Several weeks after initiating this poll, I'll report the
results to this list
via the format shown below :
For instance: my blood type is B+ ; my Carden relationship is
maternal.
Thanks, Martha
========================================================================
===
What is your blood group? Is your relationship to Carden/in'an'on -
maternal or paternal.
O+ M or P
O- M or P
A+ M or P
A- M or P
B+ M or P
B- M or P
AB+ M or P
AB- M or P
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do
not."
-- Thomas Jefferson
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End of CARDEN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 22
*************************************
BLOOD TYPE POLL
Just a note of encouragement to any listers here who have not posted a
blood type in the poll
and would still like to do so.
As of today we have picked up a few more entries over the weekend for a
total of 27 so far.
If you haven't registered your blood type, and/or the maternal -
paternal feature; also your
Haplogroup (male or female) - if known - and still want to participate,
you will have until
2/16/08 to do so. This date will culminate the 2 wk. period originally
set to allow any regular
member of the list to participate.
Thanks for the responses so far,
Martha
-----Original Message-----
From: carden-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:carden-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of carden-request(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:03 AM
To: carden(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: CARDEN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 22
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:28:21 EST
From: Runningbull24(a)aol.com
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Blood Type Poll
To: carden(a)rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <cfa.296c0122.34e11ad5(a)aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Richard Carden blood type A+
Richard Carden blood type A+
In a message dated 2/3/2008 5:54:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
dixiepeanut(a)comcast.net writes:
Carden folks...
Would you all (or y'all ) mind taking an anonymous poll about your
blood type?
You may be (or already have been) asked to do this on several Rootsweb
lists as
it's an ongoing project to help more specifically determine family line
origins by
the expert Genetic Genealogist Mark Wade and a few others. He has
initiated
blood type polls like this one on several other Rootsweb lists. As DNA
projects
have become more 'fine tuned' in the last few years these experts have
come to
believe that the genes determining blood type are more connected to
family
origins than previously thought.
Blood groups are passed down in the maternal lines in the same manner as
in the
paternal ones. Let's face it, we live in a patriarchal society, folks.
Women's
names tend to change at marriage and also
a woman only inherits her mother's maternal line DNA for certain
attributes, in
this case blood groups are included.
This is an anonymous poll. Voters' names will not be shown. If you do
choose to
respond to it, you can do so privately, or via the list. I'll keep your
email address
private if it's sent to me, or if you choose to respond publically on
the list, that
will show up how you voted. Either way is ok... it's just up to you.
Please respond only if you have a bloodline connection to
Carden/in/an/on/ing
surname either through your mother (maternal) or your father (paternal)
line (or
lines). Several weeks after initiating this poll, I'll report the
results to this list
via the format shown below :
For instance: my blood type is B+ ; my Carden relationship is
maternal.
Thanks, Martha
========================================================================
===
What is your blood group? Is your relationship to Carden/in'an'on -
maternal or paternal.
O+ M or P
O- M or P
A+ M or P
A- M or P
B+ M or P
B- M or P
AB+ M or P
AB- M or P
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."
-- Thomas Jefferson
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My husband Fred and I visited this cemetery several years ago when I was in
culinary school with a kid named Bobby Carden who is descended from Silas Link
Carden (infamous for his antics as a Confederate soldier). Bobby said that
his father told him that Silas Link Carden is buried there at the foot of a
large oak tree in that copse of trees (no marker for him though). He had never
heard his dad mention the others named there on headstones however. The small
graveyard is to the left of a private residence and is within one half mile of
Duke Forest. Fortunately for us there was no one home the day we hurriedly
looked it over.
Cheryl Carden </HTML>
All the evidence suggests that your James CARDEN was the son of William
and Dicey CARDEN. William died Nov 1824 in Jasper Co GA and Dicey died
sometime after 1832, probably in Walton Co.
Steve
http://users.waymark.net/shmartonak/carden.htm
--
> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:34:32 -0500
> From: "Byron, Ruth" <RuthByron(a)fdle.state.fl.us>
> Subject: Re: [CARDEN] John Carden and the Rev. War
> To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
>
> I can go back to James Carden married Elizabeth Tillery 12/13/1807 but
> not to the Rev. War. Yet, that is.
>
> ruthbyron(a)fdle.state.fl.us
> Fort Myers Crime Lab
> 4700 Terminal Drive
> Fort Myers, FL 33907
>
I'm sure there was several. The only one that comes to mind at present was
Youen Carden. I've always thought he was a brother to Robert, who married
Phyllis, but I have never found any proof.
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: carden-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:carden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of JWilliams
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:25 PM
To: carden(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] John Carden and the Rev. War
well now...I guess I have other research and documentation to cleanup. Were
any of the Cardens in the Rev. War?
On Feb 6, 2008 10:52 AM, Chuck Carden <chuckcarden(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> Jeff,
> The Revolutionary War was 1775 to 1783. John Carden lived from about 1655
> to
> 1739. There were 2 other wars that he could have been involved with, King
> William's War 1689 to 1697 or Queen Anne's War 1702 to 1713. However,
> these
> were mainly in the New England states and southern Canada.
> Chuck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: carden-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:carden-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
> Behalf Of JWilliams
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:29 AM
> To: CARDEN(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: [CARDEN] John Carden and the Rev. War
>
> This is a "shot in the dark" so to speak, but I was told a long time ago,
> by
> an uncle of mine who is now long gone, that John Carden, husband of Mary
> Ann
> parker, was in the Rev. War. If so, I have no documentation at all on
> this.
> Does anyone have any documentation on this at all..or was my uncle
> mistaken?
> If there is any documentation on this at all..or even a generation past
> this, I would surely appreciate it.
> thanks, and looking forward from hearing from all of the Cousins out
> there.
> My past posting was great. I appreciate everyone who wrote me and gave me
> documentation as well. I will write everyone back as soon as I can
>
> Jefferson F. Williams II
>
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I can go back to James Carden married Elizabeth Tillery 12/13/1807 but
not to the Rev. War. Yet, that is.
ruthbyron(a)fdle.state.fl.us
Fort Myers Crime Lab
4700 Terminal Drive
Fort Myers, FL 33907
-----Original Message-----
From: carden-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:carden-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of JWilliams
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:29 AM
To: CARDEN(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CARDEN] John Carden and the Rev. War
This is a "shot in the dark" so to speak, but I was told a long time
ago, by
an uncle of mine who is now long gone, that John Carden, husband of Mary
Ann
parker, was in the Rev. War. If so, I have no documentation at all on
this.
Does anyone have any documentation on this at all..or was my uncle
mistaken?
If there is any documentation on this at all..or even a generation past
this, I would surely appreciate it.
thanks, and looking forward from hearing from all of the Cousins out
there.
My past posting was great. I appreciate everyone who wrote me and gave
me
documentation as well. I will write everyone back as soon as I can
Jefferson F. Williams II
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This is a "shot in the dark" so to speak, but I was told a long time ago, by
an uncle of mine who is now long gone, that John Carden, husband of Mary Ann
parker, was in the Rev. War. If so, I have no documentation at all on this.
Does anyone have any documentation on this at all..or was my uncle mistaken?
If there is any documentation on this at all..or even a generation past
this, I would surely appreciate it.
thanks, and looking forward from hearing from all of the Cousins out there.
My past posting was great. I appreciate everyone who wrote me and gave me
documentation as well. I will write everyone back as soon as I can
Jefferson F. Williams II
Heidi Farnsworth
O+ Paternal
Father--Roy W. Carden b. 10 Apr 1924 d. 17 Dec 2004
Grandfather--Otho Carden b. 1894 d. 1943
GGrandfather--Nathaniel T. Carden b. 1869 d. 1947
GGGrandfather--Landon Carden b. 1842 d. 1871
GGGGrandfather--Ansel Carden b. 1798 d. 1859
GGGGGrandfather--Reuben Carden b. 1775 d. 1861
GGGGGGrandfather--? John Carden b. 1740
GGGGGGGrandfather--Robert James Carden b. 1702
GGGGGGGGrandfather--John Carden b. 1655
GGGGGGGGGrandfather--Robert Carden b. 1630
GGGGGGGGGGrandfather--John Carden b. 1602
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Facts About Blood -- and Inheritance
Blood Type and RH % of the World Population :
Type % Results of Our study so far = 23 entries
O Positive 38% 8 = 35 % 3 % > average
O Negative 7% 3 = 13 % 6 % > average
A Positive 34% 6 = 18 % 16 % < average *
A Negative 6% 1 = 4 % 2 % < average
B Positive 9% 4 = 17 % 8 % > average **
B Negative 2% 0 = 0% 2 % < average
AB Positive 3% 0 = 0 % 3 % < average
AB Negative 1% 0 = 0 % 1 % < average
TYPE UNKNOWN = 1
* = in UK - Type A may indicate Nordic Vikings; your Haplogroup may be
R1a or Ia
* = in UK - Type B may indicate Celtic blood; your Haplogroup may be R1b
or R1b1c
* + in UK - Type O may indicate some non-European blood; the most
prevalent type =
plenty of antibodies, but no antigens = helpful
against more diseases;
can originate from many Haplogroups, esp. C,D,E,& G
(Genghis Khan=C)
Summary for the group so far:
Type O (averaged) = above world average;
Type A (averaged) = below than world average;
Type B (averaged) = above world average;
Type AB (averaged) = no result so far = below world average
THEREFORE:
O and B predominate;
A and AB are low
When this changes with more entries, I'll update.
Martha
James E Carden B+ Paternal
In a message dated 2/3/2008 4:54:11 P.M. Central Standard Time,
dixiepeanut(a)comcast.net writes:
Carden folks...
Would you all (or y'all ) mind taking an anonymous poll about your
blood type?
You may be (or already have been) asked to do this on several Rootsweb
lists as
it's an ongoing project to help more specifically determine family line
origins by
the expert Genetic Genealogist Mark Wade and a few others. He has
initiated
blood type polls like this one on several other Rootsweb lists. As DNA
projects
have become more 'fine tuned' in the last few years these experts have
come to
believe that the genes determining blood type are more connected to
family
origins than previously thought.
Blood groups are passed down in the maternal lines in the same manner as
in the
paternal ones. Let's face it, we live in a patriarchal society, folks.
Women's
names tend to change at marriage and also
a woman only inherits her mother's maternal line DNA for certain
attributes, in
this case blood groups are included.
This is an anonymous poll. Voters' names will not be shown. If you do
choose to
respond to it, you can do so privately, or via the list. I'll keep your
email address
private if it's sent to me, or if you choose to respond publically on
the list, that
will show up how you voted. Either way is ok... it's just up to you.
Please respond only if you have a bloodline connection to
Carden/in/an/on/ing
surname either through your mother (maternal) or your father (paternal)
line (or
lines). Several weeks after initiating this poll, I'll report the
results to this list
via the format shown below :
For instance: my blood type is B+ ; my Carden relationship is
maternal.
Thanks, Martha
========================================================================
===
What is your blood group? Is your relationship to Carden/in'an'on -
maternal or paternal.
O+ M or P
O- M or P
A+ M or P
A- M or P
B+ M or P
B- M or P
AB+ M or P
AB- M or P
"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."
-- Thomas Jefferson
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48)
Blood Type and RH % of the World Population :
O Positive 38%
O Negative 7%
A Positive 34%
A Negative 6%
B Positive 9%
B Negative 2%
AB Positive 3%
AB Negative 1%
Facts About Blood :
-- O+ is the most prevalent blood type; AB- is the rarest one
-- If one of your parents was O, you'll be an O.
-- If one of your parents was A & one was B, you're AB
-- Hospitals, blood banks, family doctors and sometimes
schools keep blood type records if you don't know yours
-- Most adults have bet. 10-12 pints of blood; men have more
than women bc/ they're more muscular; children generally
have 1/2 as much blood as adults
-- In an emergency, anyone can receive type O red blood cells
-- People with type O blood are known as "universal donors"
-- Type AB individuals can receive RBC's of any ABO type.
-- Those with type AB blood are known as "universal recipients."
-- In addition, AB plasma donors can give to all blood types.
Most Asian populations are abt. 50% type B ; and 50% AB
Most American Indians are type O
Peruvian Indians are 100% type O
Many Celtic Irish from northern Ireland are type A
Many Celtic Irish from southern Ireland are type B
http://www.lifeshare.org/facts/bloodtypes.htm
Martha
-----Original Message-----
From: carden-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:carden-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of carden-request(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:53 PM
To: carden(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: CARDEN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 16
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Blood Type Poll (Stephen Carden)
2. Blood Type- O - Negative (Art Carden)
3. Re: Blood Type- O - Negative (Byron, Ruth)
4. How did actress Reese Witherspoon get those big blue eyes?
(Martha)
5. maternal Haplogroups (Martha)
6. Re: maternal Haplogroups (Becky)
7. Re: Blood Type Poll (Edward Carden)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Message: 1
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 07:23:41 -0600
From: Stephen Carden <cardensd(a)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Blood Type Poll
To: carden(a)rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <284E2D5C-DC15-4770-9103-C96D16505842(a)earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
Hi folks,
Blood type: A-
Relationship: paternal
Stephen Carden
Utica, Kentucky
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:02:10 -0500
From: "Art Carden" <navyrealtor1(a)cox.net>
Subject: [CARDEN] Blood Type- O - Negative
To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
Message-ID: <002d01c86736$8978a820$6601a8c0@carden>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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Blood Type - O negative
Fairly rare I guess.
Paternal
Father- Orelan Ralph Carden
Grandfather- Rufus Hayes Carden
Thanks-
Arthur Bruce Carden
Virginia Beach, Virginia
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martha" <dixiepeanut(a)comcast.net>
To: "CARDEN List" <CARDEN(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 5:55 PM
Subject: [CARDEN] Blood Type Poll
>
>
> Carden folks...
>
> Would you all (or y'all <s> ) mind taking an anonymous poll about
> your blood type?
>
> You may be (or already have been) asked to do this on several Rootsweb
> lists as it's an ongoing project to help more specifically determine
> family line origins by
> the expert Genetic Genealogist Mark Wade and a few others. He has
> initiated
> blood type polls like this one on several other Rootsweb lists. As
DNA
> projects
> have become more 'fine tuned' in the last few years these experts have
> come to
> believe that the genes determining blood type are more connected to
> family
> origins than previously thought.
>
> Blood groups are passed down in the maternal lines in the same manner
> as in the paternal ones. Let's face it, we live in a patriarchal
> society, folks. Women's
> names tend to change at marriage and also
> a woman only inherits her mother's maternal line DNA for certain
> attributes, in
> this case blood groups are included.
>
> This is an anonymous poll. Voters' names will not be shown. If you do
> choose to respond to it, you can do so privately, or via the list.
> I'll keep your email address
> private if it's sent to me, or if you choose to respond publically on
> the list, that
> will show up how you voted. Either way is ok... it's just up to you.
>
> Please respond only if you have a bloodline connection to
> Carden/in/an/on/ing surname either through your mother (maternal) or
> your father (paternal) line (or
> lines). Several weeks after initiating this poll, I'll report the
> results to this list
> via the format shown below :
>
>
> For instance: my blood type is B+ ; my Carden relationship is
> maternal.
>
>
> Thanks, Martha
>
> ======================================================================
> ==
> ===
>
> What is your blood group? Is your relationship to Carden/in'an'on -
> maternal or paternal.
>
>
> O+ M or P
> O- M or P
> A+ M or P
> A- M or P
> B+ M or P
> B- M or P
> AB+ M or P
> AB- M or P
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do
> not."
> -- Thomas Jefferson
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:15:40 -0500
From: "Byron, Ruth" <RuthByron(a)fdle.state.fl.us>
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Blood Type- O - Negative
To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
Message-ID: <EB570BEA90AEB64FA088D5E72B400EB801F2AEC1(a)EVS1.myfdle.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Blood type 0 positive, blood line - maternal
Mother - Sarah Carden
Grandfather - James W. Carden
Ruth byron - Cape Coral, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: carden-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:carden-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of Art Carden
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 9:02 AM
To: carden(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [CARDEN] Blood Type- O - Negative
Blood Type - O negative
Fairly rare I guess.
Paternal
Father- Orelan Ralph Carden
Grandfather- Rufus Hayes Carden
Thanks-
Arthur Bruce Carden
Virginia Beach, Virginia
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martha" <dixiepeanut(a)comcast.net>
To: "CARDEN List" <CARDEN(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 5:55 PM
Subject: [CARDEN] Blood Type Poll
>
>
> Carden folks...
>
> Would you all (or y'all <s> ) mind taking an anonymous poll about
your
> blood type?
>
> You may be (or already have been) asked to do this on several Rootsweb
> lists as
> it's an ongoing project to help more specifically determine family
line
> origins by
> the expert Genetic Genealogist Mark Wade and a few others. He has
> initiated
> blood type polls like this one on several other Rootsweb lists. As
DNA
> projects
> have become more 'fine tuned' in the last few years these experts have
> come to
> believe that the genes determining blood type are more connected to
> family
> origins than previously thought.
>
> Blood groups are passed down in the maternal lines in the same manner
as
> in the
> paternal ones. Let's face it, we live in a patriarchal society,
folks.
> Women's
> names tend to change at marriage and also
> a woman only inherits her mother's maternal line DNA for certain
> attributes, in
> this case blood groups are included.
>
> This is an anonymous poll. Voters' names will not be shown. If you do
> choose to
> respond to it, you can do so privately, or via the list. I'll keep
your
> email address
> private if it's sent to me, or if you choose to respond publically on
> the list, that
> will show up how you voted. Either way is ok... it's just up to you.
>
> Please respond only if you have a bloodline connection to
> Carden/in/an/on/ing
> surname either through your mother (maternal) or your father
(paternal)
> line (or
> lines). Several weeks after initiating this poll, I'll report the
> results to this list
> via the format shown below :
>
>
> For instance: my blood type is B+ ; my Carden relationship is
> maternal.
>
>
> Thanks, Martha
>
>
========================================================================
> ===
>
> What is your blood group? Is your relationship to Carden/in'an'on -
> maternal or paternal.
>
>
> O+ M or P
> O- M or P
> A+ M or P
> A- M or P
> B+ M or P
> B- M or P
> AB+ M or P
> AB- M or P
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do
not."
> -- Thomas Jefferson
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 11:40:04 -0600
From: "Martha" <dixiepeanut(a)comcast.net>
Subject: [CARDEN] How did actress Reese Witherspoon get those big blue
eyes?
To: "CARDEN List" <CARDEN(a)rootsweb.com>
Message-ID: <07d801c86754$fa16c850$6401a8c0@Station12>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Subject: How did actress Reese Witherspoon get those big blue eyes?
Thought you'd like this one. The theory is novel, but maybe not so 'far
fetched' as we might think.
It's a little long, but if you 'hang in thee', a cute analogy at the end
will
make you smile ... ! <s>
Enjoy, Martha
================================================================
GENETIC MUTATION MAKES THOSE BROWN EYES BLUE
Scientists find that blue-eyed individuals have a single, common
ancestor
Carolyn Kaster / AP file
How did actress Reese Witherspoon get those big blue eyes? A team of
scientists has found that blue eyes are linked to a genetic mutation
that occurred between 6,000 and 10,000 years ago. People with blue eyes
have a single, common ancestor, according to new research.
A team of scientists has tracked down a genetic mutation that leads to
blue eyes. The mutation occurred between 6,000 and 10,000 years ago, so
before then, there were no blue eyes.
"Originally, we all had brown eyes," said Hans Eiberg from the
Department of Cellular and Molecular Medicine at the University of
Copenhagen.
The mutation affected the so-called OCA2 gene, which is involved in the
production of melanin, the pigment that gives color to our hair, eyes
and skin.
"A genetic mutation affecting the OCA2 gene in our chromosomes resulted
in the creation of a 'switch,' which literally 'turned off' the ability
to produce brown eyes," Eiberg said.
The genetic switch is located in the gene adjacent to OCA2 and rather
than completely turning off the gene, the switch limits its action,
which reduces the production of melanin in the iris. In effect, the
"turned-down" switch diluted brown eyes to blue. If the OCA2 gene had
been completely shut down, our hair, eyes and skin would be
melanin-less, a condition known as albinism.
"It's exactly what I sort of expected to see from what we know about
genetic selection in this area," said John Hawks of the University of
Wisconsin-Madison, referring to the study results regarding the OCA2
gene. Hawks was not involved in the current study.
Baby blues --
Eiberg and his team examined DNA from mitochondria, the cells'
energy-making structures, of blue-eyed individuals in countries
including Jordan, Denmark and Turkey. This genetic material comes from
females, so it can trace maternal lineages.
They specifically looked at sequences of DNA on the OCA2 gene and the
genetic mutation associated with turning down melanin production.
Over the course of several generations, segments of ancestral DNA get
shuffled so that individuals have varying sequences. Some of these
segments, however, that haven't been reshuffled are called haplotypes.
If a group of individuals shares long haplotypes, that means the
sequence arose relatively recently in our human ancestors. The DNA
sequence didn't have enough time to get mixed up.
"What they were able to show is that the people who have blue eyes in
Denmark, as far as Jordan, these people all have this same haplotype,
they all have exactly the same gene changes that are all linked to this
one mutation that makes eyes blue," Hawks said in a telephone interview.
Melanin switch ---
The mutation is what regulates the OCA2 switch for melanin production.
And depending on the amount of melanin in the iris, a person can end up
with eye color ranging from brown to green. Brown-eyed individuals have
considerable individual variation in the area of their DNA that controls
melanin production. But they found that blue-eyed individuals only have
a small degree of variation in the amount of melanin in their eyes.
"Out of 800 persons we have only found one person which didn't fit -
but his eye color was blue with a single brown spot," Eiberg told
LiveScience, referring to the finding that blue-eyed individuals all had
the same sequence of DNA linked with melanin production.
"From this we can conclude that all blue-eyed individuals are linked to
the same ancestor," Eiberg said. "They have all inherited the same
switch at exactly the same spot in their DNA." Eiberg and his colleagues
detailed their study in the Jan. 3 online edition of the journal Human
Genetics.
That genetic switch somehow spread throughout Europe and now other parts
of the world.
"The question really is, 'Why did we go from having nobody on Earth with
blue eyes 10,000 years ago to having 20 or 40 percent of Europeans
having blue eyes now?" Hawks said. "This gene does something good for
people--- IT MAKES THEM HAVE MORE KIDS !"
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:13:54 -0600
From: "Martha" <dixiepeanut(a)comcast.net>
Subject: [CARDEN] maternal Haplogroups
To: "CARDEN List" <CARDEN(a)rootsweb.com>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Carden Folks,
Thanks to all for the responses I've already been getting to the 'blood
type poll'. It's looking very interesting...
BTW, I just thought about it... maybe some of you would be interested
---
If any of you ladies have had your mt-DNA testing done (or men who have
had your maternal DNA tested as
well when you had your paternal testing done), would you be willing to
share your maternal Haplogroup result?
This would still be anonymous and would be included when I report the
blood poll results in a couple of weeks.
For example, my maternal profile was tested, the result being my
maternal Haplogroup is "W". As far as the
'big picture' (worldwide), for example... Mark Wade is working on the
Group "W" descendants right now (his
mother being a "W"). He's found that Haplogroup is just a little more
rare than some of those other European
'Daughters of Eve'.
Just some thoughts, Martha
-------------------------------------------------------
More about mtDNA Haplogroup Testing -
http://www.dnatesting.com/ancestral/maternalAncestryInfo.php
Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) has proven itself as an ideal tool for
tracking ethnic heritage. Inherited from
the maternal genetic line, mtDNA differs from nuclear DNA, because it
changes very little between generations;
this unique attribute has allowed scientists to use mtDNA for tracking
as many as hundreds of generations of
genetic history. This is how a woman's ethnic heritage - say American
Indian - can be discovered if she wants
to know it. Since men carry their mother's DNA, they could also have
this particular test to find out their mother's
ethnic heritage .
"Those who hammer their guns into plows, will plow for those who do
not." -- Thomas Jefferson
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:37:38 -0600
From: "Becky" <rec(a)hiwaay.net>
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] maternal Haplogroups
To: <carden(a)rootsweb.com>
Message-ID: <41B26B235B3B49E7A924C04F631A97A6@RebeccaPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Martha,
I would like to participate in the blood type query, but I don't even
know
what mine is! LOL
My Dad, Frank Carden, was O+.
Becky Carden, bloodtypeless
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martha" <dixiepeanut(a)comcast.net>
To: "CARDEN List" <CARDEN(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:13 PM
Subject: [CARDEN] maternal Haplogroups
>
>
> Carden Folks,
>
> Thanks to all for the responses I've already been getting to the
'blood
> type poll'. It's looking very interesting...
>
> BTW, I just thought about it... maybe some of you would be interested
> ---
> If any of you ladies have had your mt-DNA testing done (or men who
have
> had your maternal DNA tested as
> well when you had your paternal testing done), would you be willing to
> share your maternal Haplogroup result?
> This would still be anonymous and would be included when I report the
> blood poll results in a couple of weeks.
>
> For example, my maternal profile was tested, the result being my
> maternal Haplogroup is "W". As far as the
> 'big picture' (worldwide), for example... Mark Wade is working on the
> Group "W" descendants right now (his
> mother being a "W"). He's found that Haplogroup is just a little more
> rare than some of those other European
> 'Daughters of Eve'.
>
>
> Just some thoughts, Martha
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> More about mtDNA Haplogroup Testing -
> http://www.dnatesting.com/ancestral/maternalAncestryInfo.php
>
> Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) has proven itself as an ideal tool for
> tracking ethnic heritage. Inherited from
> the maternal genetic line, mtDNA differs from nuclear DNA, because it
> changes very little between generations;
> this unique attribute has allowed scientists to use mtDNA for tracking
> as many as hundreds of generations of
> genetic history. This is how a woman's ethnic heritage - say American
> Indian - can be discovered if she wants
> to know it. Since men carry their mother's DNA, they could also have
> this particular test to find out their mother's
> ethnic heritage .
>
>
>
>
>
> "Those who hammer their guns into plows, will plow for those who do
> not." -- Thomas Jefferson
>
>
> -------------------------------
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>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:52:12 -0500
From: "Edward Carden" <ecarden(a)cox.net>
Subject: Re: [CARDEN] Blood Type Poll
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Edward Carden, A+ Paternal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martha" <dixiepeanut(a)comcast.net>
To: "CARDEN List" <CARDEN(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 5:55 PM
Subject: [CARDEN] Blood Type Poll
>
>
> Carden folks...
>
> Would you all (or y'all <s> ) mind taking an anonymous poll about
your
> blood type?
>
> You may be (or already have been) asked to do this on several Rootsweb
> lists as
> it's an ongoing project to help more specifically determine family
line
> origins by
> the expert Genetic Genealogist Mark Wade and a few others. He has
> initiated
> blood type polls like this one on several other Rootsweb lists. As
DNA
> projects
> have become more 'fine tuned' in the last few years these experts have
> come to
> believe that the genes determining blood type are more connected to
> family
> origins than previously thought.
>
> Blood groups are passed down in the maternal lines in the same manner
as
> in the
> paternal ones. Let's face it, we live in a patriarchal society,
folks.
> Women's
> names tend to change at marriage and also
> a woman only inherits her mother's maternal line DNA for certain
> attributes, in
> this case blood groups are included.
>
> This is an anonymous poll. Voters' names will not be shown. If you do
> choose to
> respond to it, you can do so privately, or via the list. I'll keep
your
> email address
> private if it's sent to me, or if you choose to respond publically on
> the list, that
> will show up how you voted. Either way is ok... it's just up to you.
>
> Please respond only if you have a bloodline connection to
> Carden/in/an/on/ing
> surname either through your mother (maternal) or your father
(paternal)
> line (or
> lines). Several weeks after initiating this poll, I'll report the
> results to this list
> via the format shown below :
>
>
> For instance: my blood type is B+ ; my Carden relationship is
> maternal.
>
>
> Thanks, Martha
>
>
========================================================================
> ===
>
> What is your blood group? Is your relationship to Carden/in'an'on -
> maternal or paternal.
>
>
> O+ M or P
> O- M or P
> A+ M or P
> A- M or P
> B+ M or P
> B- M or P
> AB+ M or P
> AB- M or P
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do
not."
> -- Thomas Jefferson
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Edward Carden, A+ Paternal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martha" <dixiepeanut(a)comcast.net>
To: "CARDEN List" <CARDEN(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 5:55 PM
Subject: [CARDEN] Blood Type Poll
>
>
> Carden folks...
>
> Would you all (or y'all <s> ) mind taking an anonymous poll about your
> blood type?
>
> You may be (or already have been) asked to do this on several Rootsweb
> lists as
> it's an ongoing project to help more specifically determine family line
> origins by
> the expert Genetic Genealogist Mark Wade and a few others. He has
> initiated
> blood type polls like this one on several other Rootsweb lists. As DNA
> projects
> have become more 'fine tuned' in the last few years these experts have
> come to
> believe that the genes determining blood type are more connected to
> family
> origins than previously thought.
>
> Blood groups are passed down in the maternal lines in the same manner as
> in the
> paternal ones. Let's face it, we live in a patriarchal society, folks.
> Women's
> names tend to change at marriage and also
> a woman only inherits her mother's maternal line DNA for certain
> attributes, in
> this case blood groups are included.
>
> This is an anonymous poll. Voters' names will not be shown. If you do
> choose to
> respond to it, you can do so privately, or via the list. I'll keep your
> email address
> private if it's sent to me, or if you choose to respond publically on
> the list, that
> will show up how you voted. Either way is ok... it's just up to you.
>
> Please respond only if you have a bloodline connection to
> Carden/in/an/on/ing
> surname either through your mother (maternal) or your father (paternal)
> line (or
> lines). Several weeks after initiating this poll, I'll report the
> results to this list
> via the format shown below :
>
>
> For instance: my blood type is B+ ; my Carden relationship is
> maternal.
>
>
> Thanks, Martha
>
> ========================================================================
> ===
>
> What is your blood group? Is your relationship to Carden/in'an'on -
> maternal or paternal.
>
>
> O+ M or P
> O- M or P
> A+ M or P
> A- M or P
> B+ M or P
> B- M or P
> AB+ M or P
> AB- M or P
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."
> -- Thomas Jefferson
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
> CARDEN-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes
> in the subject and the body of the message
>