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I am trying to contact Arthur and Etty Carden (our Guru). My letter was
returned and the emails are bouncing. Can anyone help please or if Arthur
is on line can he please contact me.
The holiday lifestyle must be agreeing with him.
regards Ronnie Bates
ronnie(a)southwest.com.au
Web page http://www.southwest.com.au/~ronnie/
Book Indexes:
http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/books/books-04.htm#INDEXES
Grandma! Where did I come from? Book 1 & 3 are Indexed on line.
I Have a Columbus Carden m. Etta ROGERS..OCT. 24, 1899 performed by James A.
Cole at the home of Harvey Gitts, Sullivan County, TN. this was Columbus's
4th or 5th marriage..don't know where he went after 1899. Wonder if there is
any connection between Etta Rogers and the Julia Rodgers?? Wonder if Arthur
is one of Columbus's Children from a prev. marriage..There were so few
carden's in Sullivan County after 1900.
JAN
Re: William M. Carden and his wife, Demarius Overman
They are listed in the Orange County, North Carolina Census of 1870 on page
272, dwelling/family #72.
William's age is given as 50, Demarius is 23. The children listed with them
are:
Nancy A. (7 years old)
John W. (5 years old)
Thomas I. or Thomas J. (3 years old)
James I. (1 year old)
Everyone in the family was born in North Carolina. William's occupation is
given as Chairmaker.
I apologize for the lateness of this response. Our computer required a major
overhaul after an unsuccessful attempt to install Windows XP.
It's encouraging to run into Orange County Carden seekers. I'm still trying
to get beyond George Carden, born 1828, who married Lucretia Gilbert. They,
and son James Jamison Carden, are buried in the cemetery at Little River
Presbyterian Church in Orange County. Their first child, William, was born in
1849 and died before 1860. Other children were:
John W., Martha Jane, Henry M., Mary Elizabeth (Mollie), Laura, and George
Crawford Carden.
Carol Scarlett
Cardens on the list,
I have updated my Carden webpage with more Cardens. Have a look. And if
you are new to the Carden list I am volunteering to post photos of our
Carden men and women ancestors so that the list can compare the physical
characteristics and familial resemblances. It is all just for fun.
You can see what I've already posted at:
http://www.tcarden.com/tree/ensor/Carden1.html
You'll see the various links located under the Carden coat of arms.
Cheryl,
Thanks for the photo of your handsome Carden men.
I have posted the photo on
http://www.tcarden.com/tree/ensor/00CardenCheryl.html
You can also see it on
Carden Males Photo Gallery (smaller versions)
http://www.tcarden.com/tree/ensor/CardenThumbnails.html
Sincerely,
Trisha Swallows Carden
Nashville, Tennessee
G-ma(a)home.com
http://www.tcarden.com/tree/ensor/http://www.foygenealogy.com/index.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: <Cherylscarden99(a)cs.com>
To: <g-ma(a)home.com>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: Carden Genealogy and photos
> Trish I am attaching photo--- not good enough with the scanner etc. to add
> text at bottom. This is a pix of Clark Fred Carden, Jr. left and his son
Ken
> neth Clark Carden I taken on May 2, 1987.
>
> Also I have looked through the Teague magazines I have and although there
are
> several Hannahs in this area, none of them married a Barnes unless he was
a
> subsequent husband that was not listed. I will look some more and see if
I
> can come up with any info for you.
>
> Thanks. Cheryl Staley Carden
>
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James married Anasticia Carden- they had 3 children, and 10
grandchildren
James McGeever's parents were John McGeever and Annie Gallagher. Annie's
parents were Edward and Bridget Gallagher from Co Donegal, Ire. James is
one of the 14 children of John Francis and Annie Gallagher McGeever of
PA. Ring any bells?
Trish, I will send the photo of the headstone of America Ann Carden
to you as soon as I can tonight. There has been too much going on for me to look for it before now. Sorry to hold you up.
The photo is a bit dark at the top, will try to lighten and re-do it so it is more readable.
Jo Yates
Becky Carden wrote:
> Trish,
> We're talking good old "snail mail" here! LOL
>
> I mailed it yesterday, so it might be there by Monday, but who knows these days!
>
> Becky
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Trish,
I just wanted to let you know, that I mailed you those pictures yesterday, one of George Washington Carden, and one of my Owen Hendrix, and family.
I'm sorry it took me so long to get those off!!
Just wanted you to be on the look out for them.
Becky Carden
Dave, Thanks for a printing of this article. This is what happens to a
lot of houses full of these things. If a person doesn't have family,
and has a court appointed guardian, when they run out of money, and are
put in a nursing home, or if they die, the guardian has some auction, or
usually a person hired already, to do his estate sales of such
properties.Whatever looks dirty is usually discarded. The estate sales
are getting better, learning what will sell.But all of it goes to
different strangers. It is heartbreaking, to see. I have witnessed it,
firsthand.I wish the universities or some organization could find most
of these"genealogists".They are not fictional and it shouldn't be hard
to trace them.If only these contents could be archived!
Almost on-topic, and a good reminder to people and their relatives.
Taken from an Article at Ancestory.com
Every family historian's nightmare!!
"Cleaning Mother's House" by Michael John Neill
It has been nearly a year since fictional genealogist Barbara passed away.
Her daughter Charlene reflects upon that year in a letter to her friend
Karen. Charlene truly has been busy. Barbara is probably rolling over in her
grave.
Karen,
As usual, my cards are late. It has been a busy year.
We spent much of the year settling up Mother's estate. The house sold well,
but cleaning it took longer than we expected.
You are probably the only person who did not know Mother was a genealogy
buff. She told practically every human she encountered. I'm convinced that
genealogy "nut" was the most accurate phrase. The stuff was all over the
house. The inheritance would have been enough to pay for my new Mercedes had
she not insisted on spending money on that blasted hobby. I don't know why
she couldn't be more like Tom's mother. Nadine spends her day doing
needlepoint and watching reruns of 50s television shows. Tom just does not
realize how lucky he is, but men never do. My mother had to run off to
cemeteries and courthouses. She even went to a conference in Davenport,
Iowa, last year! Can you imagine? Davenport, Iowa! After she got back, she
was so excited about all that she had learned and all the fun she had. She
was planning on going to another one in California this year. Well, the grim
reaper took care of that.
Because of my promotion to head of knick knack sales at Garbageforless.com,
I had not been home for several years. I was appalled to learn that Mother
had converted my old bedroom into her family history "headquarters." My
shelves of Teen Beat and other magazines documenting my adolescence had been
replaced with old family photographs, copies of old documents, and something
called family group sheets. She even got rid of the pants I wore to my first
junior high dance. I cried at the thought.
I could not bear to go in the room and be reminded that my childhood had
been stripped from me and replaced with an obsession with the past. I told
the children that if they would clean the room and prepare the items for the
garage (should I say "garbage")? sale they could have the proceeds. I
learned what true entrepreneurs they are.
Kenny stripped Mother's hard drive in under ten minutes. I kept hearing him
say "GedCom is GedGone . . .GedCom is GedGone . . ." I have no idea what it
meant, but the computer fetched a good price. Before he unplugged the
computer, he erased all Mom's floppy disks and downloaded public domain
games. He sold these at a nominal price.
Susan took the old photographs to a flea market and was able to sell many of
them. Some special labels had to be taken off and we had to take them out of
protective envelopes. Mother had written the names on the back of many of
them. At least none of those pictures of depressing old dead people had our
last name written on them. I don't want to be associated with such sour
people.
Mother had some type of old plat book -- whatever that is. Kenny tore out
the pages individually and sold them separately on Ebay. It was so clever.
His dad said he got much more than if he had left the book in one piece.
Susan didn't tear the bibles apart though. I thought that showed
tremendously good sense. She's learning that not everything can be marketed
in the same way. The 1790 bible brought her a good penny, but she couldn't
get the one from 1900 to bring more than fifty cents. She donated it to a
local church, and here is where I am so proud of her. We can write if off as
a charitable deduction. Someone had written what they had paid for the bible
on the back cover. Susan converted that to 2001 dollars and will use that
for our tax deduction amount. I've already enrolled Susan in tax lawyer
summer camp this coming August.
There was some old large certificate of written on heavy paper. The silly
thing wasn't even in English, so why would Mother keep it? Kenny used the
other side to keep track of the things he had sold. Waste not, want not.
When we were finished we put the paper in the recycling bin.
The kids put an old wedding dress from the 1870s in the washer to get the
stains out. It was terribly filthy. The worthless thing didn't even survive
the extra long cycle and the half-gallon of bleach. It's doubtful we can
even use it for cleaning rags.
The dress was in some kind of old trunk. I'm not certain what it was for,
but it had a name stenciled on the front in huge letters along with the name
of a town. Susan gave it a good coating of red paint and sold it as a toy
box.
The filing cabinets were emptied of their contents, as were the three
shelves of binders. Kenny got the bright idea to shred the paper and sell it
in bags as New Year's confetti. The file folders were too heavy to shred.
The baby did not react well to any of this. She cried and fussed almost the
entire time. Kenny thought she wanted tea, which made no sense to me at all.
As she cried, it sounded like she was saying "family tee." She can't even
talk yet and I think Kenny was hearing things. The baby does look exactly
like my mother though, it's the oddest thing. The fussing didn't stop until
she spit up an entire bottle of strained prunes on my junior high jeans,
which we did find in the basement. They were ruined -- it was the one real
loss. Now my past has really been taken from me -- magazines and all.
Charlene
Whether you have a child like Charlene or not, have you thought about what
might happen to your genealogy collection upon your demise?
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Hi,
I don't suppose you have a "Dixie" Carden in your family tree do you? We think "Dixie" might have been a nickname, but that's how she's listed on her son's death certificate. We do know she was from Georgia and was married to an Arch or William Evans. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Julie
----- Original Message -----
From: Joanne Yates
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 8:09 AM
To: CARDEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [CARDEN-L] Roll Call
My gg grandmother was America Ann Carden, first husband James L. Ingles, second husband Robert Rose.
America born 1838 in New Kent County, VA, died 1914 in Henrico County, VA. Two known siblings: Elizabeth Jane Carden - sister;
James Jefferson Carden - brother.
Jo Yates
Mike C wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I just wanted to wish everyone a Merry Christmas. My roll call is still the
> same as last time. However, I would like to thank everyone on the list who
> has helped me obtain information and come up with new connections.
> Especially Pauline Carden Roberts in Villa Rica, Georgia and Joyce Bates in
> Bremen, Georgia. Joyce helped with information early when I started and got
> me back another generation. I attended her family reunion in 1999 and had a
> blast, that is where I met Pauline. Pauline has been very busy researching
> the Carden line in Georgia and has kept me updated. She has sent several
> pictures as well copies of legal documents and is trying to get information
> in the local libraries. I also had a comment about using Carden as a first
> or middle name. There was a Carden who married a Summers in Georgia, they
> named one of there children Carden Summers. I do not know if Carden was a
> first or middle name and I do not know if Carden is a male or female. My
> mother has corresponded with a lady who named her daughter Carden Rose ?. I
> do not know her last name. She stated Carden Rose was named after a
> grandmother (some time back). She said her father was in to genealogy and
> that it was his idea to preserve her name and heritage. We have not
> exchanged information but I assumed her line is America Ann Carden. Also, I
> have family pictures posted on my website at
> http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/o/l/Mike-Collins/ , Trish you
> are welcome to copy photos to your web site. The thing I have noticed with
> most of our Cardens is the nose. I am 6'4" and both brothers are over 6'.
> My mother is 5'8" and my sister 5'8". I was always told our height came
> from the Atkins. My grandfather is 5'6"-5'8" and I have one uncle the same
> size. Mom said she thought are Cardens were short and plump. The other 2
> uncles are 6' and over. Well enough already..... Our line is
>
> John Carden b circa 1770 m Catherine Jane Davis 11/25/1791 in Buckingham
> Co., VA. They had 6 children.
>
> Andrew Jackson Carden b abt. 1814 in Jasper Co., Georgia, m Adeline Crawford
> 3/4/1838 in Pike Co., Georgia. They had 8 children.
>
> Henry Carden b circa 1852 in Pike Co., Georgia, m Marion Blisit. They had 7
> children.
>
> David Jackson Carden b 4/10/1874 in Monroe Co., Georgia m Amanda Ada Hinman
> 8/26/1900 and Opal Azilia Smith 1/19/1920. He had 6 children with Amanda
> and 2 with Opal (after Amanda passed away.)
>
> Ollie David Carden b 11/07/1906 in Rome Co., Georgia, m Maggie Rene Atkins
> 4/15/1936. They had 6 children (2 died in infancy).
>
> Alpha Joyce Carden b 10/30/1947 in Dawson Co., Texas, m James D. Collins
> 11/30/1964. They had 5 children (1 died at birth).
>
> Michael Collins b 11/11/1972 in Hopkins Co., Texas, never married and no
> children.
>
> I guess I'll close for now. Merry Christmas to all.
>
> Mike
>
> Ps. Chuck sorry to hear about your crash. You can download my gedcom off
> my site at myfamily.com if you have forgot your password let me know. I
> hope you are able to restore all your data.
>
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no proof is right been trying to find out more also.. keep me posted Russell
county Cardens were my relatives also until after the Civil war .. Richard
My family is also in GA and still here:
Here is my roll call
John Carden b. about 1602
Robert Carden b. England?Died 2-18-1683/84 Rappahanock Co.
Virginia (Fauquier Co?)
John Carden b. abt 1655 Rappajampcl Co/ Virginia d.
abt 1739 Essex Co., VA
Robert James Carden b. Goochland Co., VA pos
Fauquier Co abt 1702
James Carden b. abt 1756 Goochland Co.,
VA D. abt 1842 Coffee Co., TN
Rueben Carden B. abt 1805
Meckenberg or Orange Co., NC,d. Coffee Co., TN
Robert Columbus Carden b.
7-1-1843 Coffee Co., TN d. 6-13-1915 Coffee Co., TN
Sallie Ruby Carden B.
5-13-1877 Manchester,TN (Coffee Co) Di. 6-30-1951 Atlanta,
Ga. Married
James Edgar McGuire b. 5-1-1885 Manchester, TN, d. 3-29-1948
Atlanta, Ga.
Bertha DeLoras
McGuire b. 3-30-1915 Manchester, TN d. 1-23-2000 Macon,
Ga.
M. Orrie Shutze Grainger
ME Marilyn
DeLoras Grainger b. 12-17-1938 Atlanta, Ga. Lives Macon, GA
Steven Alan Stowe B. Atlanta, Ga. Lives inMacon, Ga.
Jacqueline Leah Stowe - b. Atlanta, Ga. Lives Macon, Ga.
Timothy Mark Nugent -b. Atlanta, Ga. lives Macon, Ga.
Amy Deloras Nugent B. Atlanta, Ga. Lives Macon, Ga.
Gerald
Shutze Grainger b. 10-5-1941 Atlanta, Ga. lives Lincoln, AL
Teresa
Jacqueline Grainger b. 1-10-1944 Atlanta, Ga. Lives Tarpon
Springs, FL
Mark
Edgar Grainger b. 11-10-1950 Atlanta, Ga. Lives Roswell, Ga.
Thomas Carden
McGuire B. 9-15-1916 Manchester, TN lives in Augusta, Ga.
Phyliss Clara McGuire b. 7-26-1939 Atlanta, Ga. lives in Augusta, Ga.
Thomas Carden McGuire, Jr. b. 9-9-1942 lives in Covington, Ga.
Diane Eliz. McGuire b. 1-19-1944 Atlanta, Ga. lives in ?
Douglas Edgar McGuire b 12-9-1952 Atlanta, Ga. lives in Acworth, Ga.
As you see there are quite a bit of Carden descendants in Ga.
Marilyn White