You know, I was typing off the top of my head and at late night, so I could
be realllly wrong in that info. All the names you mentioned were familiar -
so I think we are talking about the right names, but I misspoke. I need to
go back and get the real info from my files. I'll get back to you later
tonight after I have survived the day. I'm glad you have made contact with
Elinor and now we have Pam Brown as another contact. This is all good news.
Talk soon. Sandy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Johnson" <ron.johnson39(a)gte.net>
To: <CANFIELD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: [CANFIELD] Canfield's with Indian wives
Hello cousin! (4th cousin, actually, if Hezekiah is our common
ggg-grandfather.)
I've been in touch with Elinor also.
Elijah & Emeline "Bagley"?
I know there were several Elijah's in various generations.
My ancestor, Elija[h] E., son of Hezekiah was born c.1817 in NY, and had 3
wives that I know of: Eveline Workman, Sarah Maria Griggs, and Mrs Nancy
Greer/Grear maiden name uncertain. The time frame you give below for the
land sale, 1841-1842, fits the period he was married to Eveline & living
in
Ripley Co, IN. The were married Nov 1837 in Ripley Co. IN. Appeared
together
in the 1840 census of Ripley Co, and the June 1 1850 census of Ripley
Co
[enumerated in Aug]. Then in Ripley Co in Sep 1850 he married Sarah
Griggs.
Dont know yet what happened to Eveline that summer, probably died.
My
gr-grandfather John was born to Elija & Sarah in abt 1861, supposedly in
Clay Co, IL. I lose track of the family till 1880, then they are in
Montgomery Co, IL, where Elijah is married to Nancy, whom he married in
Dec
1874 in Montgomery Co IL. Again, havent found out yet what happened
to
Sarah, my gg-grandmother. For that matter, haven't found Elijah's death
info
either.
I have found records of land sales by the Fed Gov to Elijah Canfield in
Ripley Co IN in Mar 1837 & Aug 1839. Haven't proven that is same as my
ancestor, but most likely since I cant find any other Elijah in the county
during this time frame.
You didn't mention where that land transaction took place. IN maybe?
Could Eveline Workman/Emeline Bagley be the same person? Perhaps she had
been married prior to her marriage to Elijah?
I wish I had more "family lore" to work with, but my gr-grandfather John
Canfield walked out on his wife shortly after my grandfather was born in
1891, so Grandpa never knew his father or anything of his father's family.
John was apparently a bit of a drifter, working as a laborer, no known
land
deals or anything. Then Grandpa died young, at age 56, when my Mom
was
just
shy of her 21st birthday, long before I was even a gleam in
anyone's eye.
(Just to make matters worse, my grandmother was an orphan. So I have
really
really had to work at putting my entire maternal line together!)
And yes, we definitely need to keep in touch!
Ron
WorldConnect site at:
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=rsjfamily
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry And Sandy Childs" <jsChilds(a)pacbell.net>
To: <CANFIELD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: 16 September 2002 01:22
Subject: Re: [CANFIELD] Canfield's with Indian wives
> Ron: I am so glad to make contact with you. I think we have a lot to
> share.
>
> You will be more pleased when I say that just a few weeks ago I made
contact
> with an Elinor Jackson who is a direct descendant of Elija's brother,
Minor
> Canfield. Both were sons of Hezekiah Graham. I am forwarding your
message
> to her to see if you two can share some information. She is quite
> knowledgeable on Canfield line -- wonderful to talk to someone with this
> amount of knowledge both on Genealogy and on the Canfield line.
>
> Her ggg grandfather Hezekiah Graham Canfield and my ggg grandfather Ira
are
> brothers. My Ira is quite illusive while her Hezekiah Graham is well
> documented. She has paper work to show that Hezekiah served in the War
of
> 1812 and that his brother "Ira" served the last two
months of it for
him.
> That is the first time I have connected him with Hezekiah and
therefore,
> Silas. Although I also have a copy of a letter from Ira to another
brother,
> Thaddeus, in Yates Co., NY circa 1846.
>
> By the way, on my last trip to Salt Lake, I found a couple of land
> transactions circa 1841-2 where Elijah & Emeline Canfield were selling
land.
> One was sold to a Walter Bagley which I understand is the brother to
Emeline
> (Bagley) Canfield. Perhaps you already have these.
>
> Another thing: Don't know if you know about this site, but I found a
website
> on the Internet that has a story about our Silas Canfield and his buddy,
> Webster, who were soldiers with Col. Seth Warner's company stationed at
Ft.
> George, NY, and they went outside the Fort to feed the horses. Indians
came
> upon them, robbed them and then kidnapped them. Took them up to Canada
> where they were sold to the British....well, the whole story is there
for
> you to see: Just go through your regular search engine and
type in
"Silas
> Canfield and Webster" and see the description of the site where the
story
is
> located. It is quite wonderful and full of adventure. It is simply
amazing
> that they lived through this! Take care -- and lets keep in touch.
Please
> feel free to contact me outside the group: jschilds(a)pacbell.net
Sandy
> Childs in Calif.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Johnson" <ron.johnson39(a)gte.net>
> To: <CANFIELD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 4:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [CANFIELD] Canfield's with Indian wives
>
>
> > I'm from the same line: Matthew, Samuel, Ebenezer, Timothy, Silas,
> Hezekiah,
> > Elijah, John, Joseph.
> > Joe (1891-1948) was my maternal grandfather. I never knew him, but my
mom
> &
> > my aunts have said that he always claimed one of his gr-grandfathers
was
> > Indian. I have not been able to confirm this at all, in
fact all I
have
> > found of Joe's ancestry leans away from that. But ...
there are
physical
> > indications that even strangers have noted as recently as my own
> > generation -- high cheekbones, dark thick hair, etc. And in photos of
> > Grandpa, the characteristics are even more pronounced. He had the very
> dark
> > eyes too, which got lost in succeeding generations.
> >
> > Ron Johnson
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sandy & Jerry Childs" <jschilds(a)pacbell.net>
> > To: <CANFIELD-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> > Sent: 15 September 2002 15:30
> > Subject: [CANFIELD] Canfield's with Indian wives
> >
> >
> > > Does anyone have any information about Canfield family marrying
women
of
> > Indian extraction?
> > >
> > > My great-grandmother's Canfield line (Matthew, Samuel, Ebenezer,
> Timothy,
> > Silas, Ira, Orsemus, Alice) has been in America since 1640. I have a
> > picture of her and her brothers and sisters (circa 1860-70) which
indicate
> > that one sister and brother are very light eyed & complected while
another
> > sister and my great-grandmother (Alice/Allis) are very dark complected
> with
> > dark (almost black) eyes and black hair.
> > >
> > > After marrying a fair-eyed and complected man, all of Alice's
children
> > including my grandfather have this black hair, black eyed
legacy.
Also,
> from
> > what I hear most did not turn gray until late 70's and then only a
little,
> > which my hair dresser tells me is a unique trait. (I have brown hair
at
> age
> > 60 and very,very little gray hair (yea!). Anyway It makes me wonder
> whether
> > there may be some indian blood in her or her ancestors. Has anyone
> > confirmed Canfields marrying Indian women? Sandy
> > >
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