It was Sir Cailein Mor Campbell's grandfather Dugald on Lochawe who is said
to have been the first given the nickname "Cam Beul" since he apparently had
the engaging trait of talking out of one side of his mouth. Cam beul means
curved mouth in the Gaelic. This Duncan was so much loved by his family that
they took his nickname as their family name and held to it even beyond
The spelling of the surname (family name) was originally Cambel. Then when
Robert the Bruce's son King David came to the throne as King of Scots he
brought with him a number of Norman knights to whom he gave lands in an
attempt to introduce Norman efficiency in administration. David had been at
the English court and admired the Norman system of feudalism. The use of the
spelling "Campbell" may perhaps have been as a result of Norman rather than
Gaelic scribes attempting to write the Gaelic name.
The name Cambel was first used by the family in the 13th century. The first
chief of the clan to appear on record as "Campbell" may well have been Sir
Duncan of Lochawe when he was created Lord Campbell in 1445
SIR ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL
OR DUGALD CAMPBELL
He was born 1182 in Lochow, Argyllshire, Scotland and died 1204 in Scotland.
He married Finlay MacGILLIVRAIL between 1196/1203 in Scotland.
Children of Sir Archibald CAMPBELL and Finlay MacGILLIVRAIL:
Archibald Gillespic CAMPBELL(Below)
he was born between 1199/1205
he was born between 1199/1205
Moir Maith CAMPBELL,
he was born between 1199/1205
I hope this helps.
I have a page dedicated to the family name of Campbell in the family album
am preparing for my mother. I have it as Dugald of Loch Awe, Sir
grandfather, who was the first to be given the name Cam Beul, means
mouth in the Gaelic, he had a specific trait of talking out of one
his mouth. I read that he was so loved by everyone that the entire family
kept the name even beyond Argyll. And that the Normans are the ones who
rearranged the spelling. Is this accurate, or even close to accurate? I
an accurate family tree album with factual data.
Thank you in Advance
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Brown <omega(a)attbi.com>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 3:16 AM
Subject: (DIARMID) Sir Neil Campbell Of Loch Awe
> Can you then explain the material and the links below. I am in the
> Thank you for responding. I am not trying to put you on the spot, I
sincerly want to know why so very few know about Sir Neil Campbell.
> I don't know where you got the information you sent me, but it is full
> in-accuracies, as I suspect you knew or you would not have asked
> it. Here are some facts:
> SIR NEIL CAMPBELL
> His father was Cailain 'mor' (big or great in the Gaelic) who died near
> Awe on the String of Lorn, killed by a MacDougall arrow in 1296. Sir
> was possibly knighted about the time of his father Gillespic's death in
> circa.1281. The head of the Lochawe family, now represented by the
> Chiefs, the Dukes of Argyll, take their 'patronymic' (paternal name)
> Colin as 'son of great Colin' or 'MacCailein
mor', often spelt
> Mor'. The wife of either Cailein 'mor' or his
father Gillespic (meaning
> Archibald, living in 1263 and who seemingly died circa. 1281) was
> (daughter or grand-daughter of Duncan Earl of Carrick who d.
> Sir Neil was likely born in Scotland and died 1315. He married secondly
> (first wife's name not known) his cousin, the sister of Robert Bruce,
> of Carrick and later King of Scots, by whom he had one son John,
> made Earl of Atholl but died young in battle and had no children. Sir
> had succeeded his father in 1296. He was a was a staunch ally of
> (2nd cousin?) Robert Bruce from the start to finish of his campaigns
> up to Bannockburn and was one of the Barons in Parliament that met at
> April 26, 1315 when the succession to the Crown of Scotland was settled.
> was said to be the 10th Knight of Lochow but this is traditional and not
> supported on record. On his death he was succeeded by his son Colin by
> first wife. Colin was granted the Lordship of Lorn in 1315, but whether
> father had owned lands on Loch Awe (also spelt 'Lochawe' and earlier
> 'Lochow') is not known, although Neil's father Cailein 'mor' was
> certainly acting for the king in an administrative capacity on Loch Awe.
> Sons of Sir Colin Campbell, lord of Lochawe (small 'L' for lord at that
> i. Colin (Cailein in the Gaelic) Campbell. Sir Colin was granted the
> Lordship of Lochawe. His place and date of birth are not known, and he
> before 1343.
> (Next there were possibly three sons called Neil, Thomas and Alexander
> may have died young)
> ii. Duncan Campbell of whom little is known.
> iii. Dugald Campbell who was still alive in 1323.
> iv John Campbell, (by Sir Neil's second wife Marjory Bruce) who was
> Earl of Atholl and killed at Halidon Hill in 1333. Presumably
> I hope this is some initial help but the sources I mentioned above are
> best bet. DAC.
> Can you please help with some extended information on the below SIR
NEIL CAMPBELL. I have read bits and pieces on him
> over the years, but nothing more than a paragraph or two. Can you
tell me why more has not been written on him, just the fact that he
school with William Wallace and that they fought
> side by side in the Wars Of Independence, should give him more of
> a mention than what I have read to date. Not to mention that he fought
for The Bruce and married his sister. Can you expound on this Sir? It
would be highly appreciated .
> SIR NEIL CAMPBELL
> MacCAILEN MORE ~ LAIRD OF LOCHOWE
> He was born 1258 in Lochow, Argyllshire, Scotland and died 1315. He
married Mariota CAMERON, between 1276/1294. Mariota CAMERON was born
1260 in Lochow, Argyllshire, Scotland and died between 1285/1295. She
the daughter of Sir John CAMERON. Sir Neil CAMPBELL succeeded his father.
He fought for King Robert, The Bruce at Methven and at Bannockburn and was
one of the great Barons in Parliament that met at Ayr on April 26, 1315
the succession to the Crown of Scotland was settled. He was also the
Knight of Lochow
> Children of Sir Neil CAMPBELL and Mariota CAMERON:
> Colin Callen Oig CAMPBELL(Below)
> Dugald CAMPBELL,
> he was born 1281 in Lochow, Argyllshire, Scotland and died between
> Duncan CAMPBELL,
> he was born about 1283.
> Reprisals for the Bishop of Glasgow, Robert Wishart's internment was
swift in coming, as William Wallace launched an attack on Glasgow, Antony
Bek's seat of administration. At 9.00am William Wallace led three hundred
horsemen across Glasgow Bridge and rode into the High Street where they
engaged Antony Bek's guards, the elite troops of the St. Cuthbert's Host.
Whilst Adam Wallace and Patrick Auchinleck led one hundred and forty men
along the North East Row to attack the rear flank of the English troops.
12.00p.m., four hundred English troops were killed during the course
battle, but William Wallace's primary target Antony Bek had
and by 1.00p.m., Wallace and his rebel army were well north of
> William Wallace regrouped his forces at Dunduff, then they
indulged in a five day period of R and R. Then an old friend called Duncan
of Lorn together with his elderly guide, Gilmichael, finally tracked
Wallace down and brought him the bad news. That the Earls of Atholl,
(John Comyn), Menteith and John of Lorn (Duncan's nephew) have
themselves with MacFadyen, the English appointed Lord of Argyll and Lorn.
With their combined force of fifteen thousand men, MacFadyen engaged on a
campaign of wanton destruction throughout Argyll and they had overwhelmed
the local resistance organised by Sir Neil Campbell of Lochawe.
> At Glendochart, William Wallace rendezvoused with Gilmichael and the
local resistance leader, Sir Neil Campbell, they reported that MacFadyen's
army was beyond Loch Dochart. William Wallace then attacked MacFadyen's
at dawn on the following day, utilising the advantage of surprise,
though Wallace had been briefed that he was outnumbered.
> The ensuing battle raged on for more than two hours, at
stage it could have gone either way, but gradually William Wallace
the upper hand. The surviving members of the Irish contingent in
army were summarily executed, as they neither asked for nor any
given. But William Wallace spared the lives of the Scottish
laid down their arms and begged for mercy.
> As for MacFadyen himself, he fled from the scene as soon
he knew that defeat was inevitable. But he was closely pursued by
Lorn and a large band of men, who found him hiding in a cave under
Craigmore, shielded by fifteen bodyguards. Duncan returned triumphantly
holding aloft MacFadyen's head as a trophy, 'which Lord Campbell placed
in Craigmore upon a stone, for the honour of Ireland'
> As was the custom in those days, the younger brothers followed the
education of the church while the eldest would inherit lands and title's.
The uncle which he was now with was also a priest of the district and it
here, now at the age of 17 or 18 that William continued his education
Dundee. It was here that William met John Blair, who soon after became a
Benedictine monk, following that he eventually left his monastery to
his friend William and become his chaplain and comrade in arms.
> In this church school William also met and became friends with Duncan of
Lorn and Sir Neil Campbell of Lochawe, both young men like William who
to take a major part in William's first exploits. Why such a well
physically strong youth would follow the career of a priest is
answered. As I have already said it was the custom for both the Wallace
family (his fathers side) and the Craufurd family (his mothers side) to
the youngest sons to the church for their education, and in unsettled
as there were, it was prudent to have a firm grasp on languages and
and the learning's of the church, as the church was a major
> Sir Alexander Seton (2nd) succeeded his good father and was Knighted by
King Robert before 1302. He publicly signed an Oath at Lindores afirming
the rights of Robert Bruce as King, and later joined Sir Gilbert Hay and
Neil Campbell in defending the rights of King Robert the Bruce and
of the signatories of the Declaration of Arbroath, April 6, 1320, which
confirmed the Independence of Scotland to Pope John XXII. Present at the
Battle of Bannockburn, June 24th, 1314, he was by the King's side during
victory celebrations. He also accompanied the King's brother
in his claim of the crown of Ireland.
> Tour Lindores Abbey in The Kingdom of Fife
> Newburgh, in north Fife, on the banks of the River Tay, has had a
settlement or a village on the present site from a period much earlier
the end of the twelfth century, but it was at this time that the
grew in importance, due to the founding of Lindores Abbey.
> Perhaps the most important and historic event ever witnessed at
Lindores Abbey was the meeting here in 1306 of three puissant knights, Sir
Gilbert Hay of Errol, Sir Neil Campbell of Lochaw, and Sir Alexander
and the sealing before the high altar of the vow they made to "
King Robert Bruce and his crown to the last of their blood and fortunes. "
> William Wallace was also here when he stole hither out of Black
Earnside Wood for water for his wounded men. And in Newburgh tradition,
Clatchard Craig, which faces the Abbey with a sheer cliff of two
feet, is pointed to as the stone whereon he whetted his great two-handed
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