Many Thanks to all those who responded to my message asking for general DNA
discussion / information. It would be nice if others would tell us about your
experience, what you learned and what questions you have. ( My original message
copied at the end of this message)
Perhaps my choice of words when I asked "what course of action" was a poor
choice. Perhaps it might have been better to say "how did those of you who made
an investment in the DNA get something for your money"?
Below are a couple of additional thoughts and summaries about the responses
that were posted.
1- Some months ago, I thought there might be a connection between my brick
wall, Wiley Campbell (b1846) and Ellis Campbell (b1804) [ a father / son
relationship] I wrote to Marge Campbell, Ellis is her ancestor, and her input
strengthened my suspicion.
However a review of the DNA results of the descendants of Ellis and Wiley for
the 25 marker test revealed four (4) differences in the 25 markers. I now
assume that there is only a small chance that this is a father son relationship
and probably not even a close family relationship. Is there someone who
disagrees or could provide additional comments about this assumption?
2-On 5-22-05 Kevin. Provided some good information about the cost for those
who have not submitted a sample as of yet. Kevin must spend a lot of time and
effort compiling all this information on this project; special thanks to that
3-On 5-22-06 Jim C provided information about the experience he and his
cousin had with the 25 and 37 marker tests. He also suggested expanding your tree
by use of the Internet. For those of you who do not want to place you tree
information on the Internet, let me suggest using the world family tree as a
source of information to expand your family tree and maybe get through the brick
4-On 5-24- 06 Lilly, certainly provided some excellent information concerning
checking for paternity.
5- On 5-22-06, Laura, provided some excellent questions (in blue italics
below). I was hopping someone would answer. I am not any sort of authority on this
subject but I will give my amateur type answers. Perhaps others will correct
me or add to the answers.
A- Is there a single nationwide or worldwide repository for test results, or
the various labs and organizations all keep their own databases and a person
would need to send samples or results to multiple organizations to locate all
matches for their Campbell DNA?
I believe there is no worldwide repository or organization. There seem to be
more and more new organizations. I believe legitimate ones will do their best
to maintain confidentiality. Caution is appropriate.
B- Once you have submitted a sample, is there a constantly updated list of
matches you will have access to? If so, for how long? Will there be annual
or something of the sort?
Kevin updates the data base. I am not sure how often, or if all information
is made public. I have found some indication that participants get more
information than what is made public on the Internet. There is no annual fee, that I
know of, pertaining to the Campbell project.
C- If I offer to pay for the testing of a genealogy-disinterested male
relative, can I be made the contact person?
I believe the answer is yes.
D- Would my test results be grouped with others and used for profit in any
I am thinking along the lines of the Social Security CD's that used to be
(and possibly still are) sold commercially.
I believe the answer is no, at least for now. The real answer should come
from the organization in question, but the answer to this question will be
I certainly hope more people will provide information about their experiences
of the DNA data and / or questions about the program.
In April, Kevin wrote that there were about 140 participants in the Campbell
DNA Testing Program. I believe we need many more, so more participants are
On May 13 Lilly Martin suggested a discussion of DNA. I share her
having a discussion of this list concerning all phases of DNA
Hopefully list members will ask questions and someone knowledgeable on
subject will provide answers to basic, practical and complex questions.
Or perhaps someone who has had an actual positive result will share their
Here are some starter questions.
My family cousin has supplied a DNA sample up through the 37 marker
test. The 12 and 25 marker test was made and the result was no
(zero) deviation from certain selected other samples (or kits as they are
But that leaves a 225 year gap between our last known
ancestor (in this case Wiley Campbell, we think born 1846) and the earliest
connected ancestor family (who happens to be John Campbell (born 1621)
I realize the result would only be a POSSIBLE answer. There is nothing in
result that will be absolute. But I am hopping to get some clue or
course of action as to where and how to search.
1- How do we go about closing this 225 year gap to get a possible answer?
2-What are the possible courses of action to resolve this problem?
It seems that the name John Campbell (b1621) and his wife Grace Hay
from time to time. Perhaps everyone that has any sort of connection to this
John Campbell and Grace Hay on this list, should be connected together.
3- If you are connected what is your name and address?
Another basic question, If these DNA samples point back to 1600s
4-How did they come up with a sample from back then?
If this information comes by way of some sort of paper trail:
5-Who has it? How do we get that paper trail made public?
Perhaps these questions seem dumb; good, enlighten me and the rest of