Vic, as I mentioned on the other site, I am convinced that the 88 year old
Nancy Campbell living with Patsy Grigsby is Patsy Grigsby's mother, Nancy
(possibly Shierley) wife of John Zach Campbell, father of Caleb and Lewis.
Jim Robinson
----- Original Message -----
From: "V Williams" <m5x95(a)sbcglobal.net>
To: <campbell(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Campbell] The Galiath Snow ball, CUZ,<ASK & ANSWER QUESTIONS
SOME ONE KNOWS>
WE have tryed to prove the old tales & got nowhere. When we challanged them
with lots of hard work, answers began to immerge.
**** Much thanks for the Campbell kids who supplied us & helped us prove
with wills & family charts. You too AT, for pushing & challenging! ****
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~**~*~*~*~*~~*
1. John Couch father was Ance/Ancel ...??....NO FATHER has been found yet
2. John Couch is German.....No English DNA says do
3. John Couch born in Berks Pa..No Couch in Berks
just the family in Buckingham Va, Orange Co NC then some moved to Old 96
Dist SC
4. John Couch had 3 wives.....No proven in Orange Co NC
5. Orange Co NC 1783 marriage does NOT belong to Perry Co
Couch....documented
6. John Couch weight 500 lbs.... NO size of the wagon he drove. common sense
please!
7. John Couch is Rev War soldier.......????
8. John Couch died in Perry Co......no record has been found of him there.
9. Mary Boon sister/cousin to Daniel....Not sister those are
documented.....cousin
Maybe, still can't find proof.
10. Mary Elizabeth Boon is her full name......documented
11. Mary Elizabeth Boon has land in her name in Charleston
WV.....documented.
12. Patrick Campbell father to John & Wm.....DNA says NO
13. Patrick Campbell marriage & divorce records have never been found
14. Patrick Campbell Sr. or Jr. never married Eliz James...his family is
well
documentated.
15. Lettice Taylor or Grace Grissel Hay ....No......relation to us.
16. Elizabeth James who is she & who was she married too????
17. Elizabeth James is she really mother to John & Wm.????
18. Elizabeth James ......NOT.... related to Jesse, his family is well
documented.
19. 2 different Campbell families in Perry Co 1800's....DNA now separates
them.
20. James "Barlett" Couch...NO... Jms Bartlett Couch paid taxes in
Buckingham Va. too
old to be s/o John & Mary.
21. John Couch,Jr of Mufflenburg Co Ky. did he really marry Janet Campbell
(& who is she? Parents?)
22. Nancy Hall wife of Wm Campbell...who is she???
23. 1850 census has an very old woman living with Pasty Grigsby. who is the
old
woman???? Does the Grigsby's belong to the other DNA Campbells.
24. Mary Patterson buried in Perry co Ky....NO she never left Orange Co NC
25. And who is buried at Campbell's bend where Mary Patterson's stone
lays????
26. What happen to John Couch's stone? It wasn't there the past spring
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From: "Atpowelljr(a)aol.com" <Atpowelljr(a)aol.com>
To: campbell_kids(a)yahoogroups.com
Cc: campbell(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:26:11 AM
Subject: [Campbell] The Galiath Snow ball, CUZ, <ASK & ANSWER QUESTIONS SOME
ONE KNOWS>
You might have a FEW Campbell's <ID,ED> BUT CUZ, hate to bust your
Buble, but that part about the Family tales, <???> Each & every record Any
where on earth Came from some Human Mind.
Most of those Official records that are found in the Court House Records
came from many of those old Ancestors that Created the Family
Records/Tales that you & so many of Us DOUBT.
Sure I have seen family Lists/Records that upon Sight I knew that were
Wrong. Many mistakes are Made by the Holder of the Information, when they
find new INFO they add it too theirs, <A Major Goof> Be sure to keep it,
But separate
The first Greatest asset of a Genealogical Researcher Is a Memory.
What good is information in a Computer IF ya don't Remember where &
what_______??
Then, Learn the geographical Location of the Person Or persons that you
are looking for.
A bit about the State of Virginia;
1718 there was New Kent County, in 1720 Hanover County was forme d from
New Kent, in 1782 Louisa County from Hanover, Co. in 1744
Albemarle County was formed from Part of Louisa & Goochland County, In
1761 Amherst & Buckingham Counties were formed from Albemarle, Co. then in
1807/8 Nelson County was formed from Amherst County, Then in 1865 The
records of New Kent & Hanover were Destroyed, Our Ole George Campbell,s
Parents, very likely, <there has not been any thing to prove other
wise>located
in the Part of Hanover County That Became, Louisa, Albemarle, Amherst &
todays Nelson County. The story abt My 4th Great Grand Pa, Johyn Campbell
being Born in Albemarle, Co in 1750, <??> & relocating to amherst County at
an
early age, as Amherst County was formed in 17 61 that would have Mae John
Campbell 11 years old, when Amherst County was Formed, There My Cousins Is
a Very good Misconception
Fits the Galiath TALES.
Now Here is another way that the Local story can be a Reason for not
finding a Record of what has come down as Family stories:
It has always & still req uired that the Marriage Liscence be Bought in
the Jurrisdiction of the Bride, BUT, in olden times there was a shortedge
Of Preachers, For those Younge ns who might have started the Family before,
the Preacher there was Common Law Marriage or Unions until the Circuit
Rider Came Through.
Now say that the Circuit Ride r came into Amherst County From the East,
& performed some Marriages by the time that he Got to Amherst C H. he
could record those Marriages in Amherst C. H. No problem, BUT he Travels up
to
Sandiges, an old Post office, in the Temprence Dist, Then on to The Forkd
Of Buffalo, More Marriages, then to Pedlar, Then to Pleasant View, then To
Elon, to Madison Heights all along the way marrying The Locals with Marriage
Liscencs
Properly in the Brides County, BUT here is where the Local Folks Tale
is Correct & the Like of A recorded Marriage in Amherst County, Is no
Proof of Anything, because there was NO law requireing those Marriages to
be recorded in Amherst County so the Circuit Rider Recorded the Marriage
Records in the Next County Seat that he Came to, Which was very Likely
Campbell County, Va
So my Idea would be To check an Adjoining County Records before Marking
the Family record of Ole Grt Gran DAD, Up as a FAKE,
D, N, A, with out a doubt one of the Most correct method of Proving a
Family Connection BUT just like Doting I's & crossing T;s there has to be an
up right, with D. N. A. there must be another Member of the Same Family to
get a Match.
I believe that Our ole George Campbell's Father was Named <GEORGE>, But
the supposed George & Margaret, as they are recorded, can not be the Parents
of Our ole George, Check the Time of their Children's Birth Days, to close
togeather.
I have traced George & Marget ampbell's Children through West Va. to KY,
to Scotland Co. Mo to a female Descendant Near Tampa FLA.
But no <D. N. A. > yet, Further, Two of The Kids of George & Margaret's
Descendants went from West Va to KY. to Mo, Where are You, Would be great to
have you youngens thae CUZ VIC'S <D> N> A> > test CUZ A T JUST Asking
&
Wondering <atpowelljr(a)aol.com>
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