Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 08:34:11 -0000
From: "Donna Endicott" <donna(a)wazoo.com>
To: <Campbell-L(a)emcee.com>
Subject: Question
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Hello,
I was told by another Campbell that my Campbell's came from Glenurchy,
Scotland. I am looking at the Clan Map of Scotland and I see Campbell's
were from Perth county. Does anyone know if Glenurchy is a town and if so
what county it is in? Thank you,
Donna
the url for the clan map is
http://www.hebrides.com/radiance/clanmapf.htm
Donna,
Greetings to another Campbell of Breadalbane (Glenorchy/Glenurchy)! There
are a few of us on this list.
The Campbells of Breadalbane are another of the three Campbell Clans -
Argyll, Breadalbane and Cawdor. The second biggest of the three, I
believe. Glenorchy/Glenurchy was an earlier name of the same family. Not
certain about Scottish geography, but I'll take Iain's word as to
location. The Breadalbanes/Glenurchies hailed from the vicinty of
Perthshire, as I understand it. (Pronounced bred-AWL-bin, and glen-UR-key
or glen-OR-key - right?)
I believe one of the early ancestors (probably named Colin or Duncan!) was
granted the lands of Glenorchy by the King. Glenorchy was originally
Macgregor land - but I think they may have been turfed off it when they
were procscribed. There was a fair amount of interaction (and quite a bit
of intermarriage) between the Campbells of Glenorchy and the
MacGregors. But it can't all of it have been cheerful since Black Duncan of
Glenorchy was apparently known as "Scourge of the MacGregors". I understand
that Black Duncan, also known as "of the Seven Castles", had an ambition to
acquire land from one end of Scotland to the other - which he achieved.
If your ancestors were Campbells of Breadalbane then they were probably
descended from Black Duncan or one of his ancestors.
There is a book about the family called the "Black Book of Taymouth". I
haven't been able to get my hands on it yet, since when I went to the
library, and ordered it from the historical documents section, someone
pinched it from the holding shelves before I could collect it!
Regards,
Rowena Campbell
Sydney, Oz
PS Happy first of spring - for those in the Southern Hemisphere!
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 09:08:48 -0000
From: "Donna Endicott" <donna(a)wazoo.com>
To: <Campbell-L(a)emcee.com>
Subject: Breadalbane question
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I asked earlier if anyone knew where Glenurchy was.
In digging thru my papers I found something that I should
have remembered. My Campbell's are of the Breadalbane Campbell's
and not Argyll Campbell's. Does anyone know right off the top of their
head the county they are from?
I will lok myself but am wanting to host the county page for Scotland
on where they came from and am looking for a quick answer so I can contact
the Host for Scotland to let her know. Thank you,
Donna (still ignorant about her lineage :-)
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 18:31:50 GMT
From: isomme(a)globalnet.co.uk (Iain Sommerville)
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Subject: Re: Breadalbane question
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I've never heard of Glenurchy. Perhaps it should be Glen Orchy, which
runs between Dalmally and Bridge of Orchy in the county of Argyll.
Breadalbane is in Perthshire.
Hope this helps.
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Iain Sommerville
Burntisland, Fife, Scotland
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 19:30:27 GMT
From: isomme(a)globalnet.co.uk (Iain Sommerville)
To: "Donna Endicott" <donna(a)wazoo.com>
Cc: Campbell-L(a)emcee.com
Subject: Re: Breadalbane question
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Donna
It would have been more helpful if I had explained in my earlier
message that Glen Orchy is close to the eastern part of Breadalbane,
although they are in different counties. In fact, I doubt if
Breadalbane has a clearly defined boundary.
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Iain Sommerville
Burntisland, Fife, Scotland