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My great grandfather was Andrew J. Campbell b 1 Mar 1810 in Mansfield, Ct.
Do you know how many Andrew J. Campbell's there are? I hope my ggandather is
who you are looking for. I only have one brother who is very ill and won't
do a DNA although I have sent him the package. ean Campbell Bunch
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Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Campbell] Andrew Campbell, Mansfield, CT
> What are his dates of birth and death if you have them-- I have an Andrew
> that I am hunting for.
>
> Liz Langmann
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 4:21 PM
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> Subject: [Campbell] Andrew Campbell, Mansfield, CT
>
>> Has anyone who is a descendant of Andrew Campbell of Mansfield, CT done
>> a DNA test? I am a Campbell and my brother's DNA test indicated we are
>> not Campbell but Stewart. At the 67 Marker level all close match
>> surnames are Stewart.
>>
>> Dee Owens
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Has anyone who is a descendant of Andrew Campbell of Mansfield, CT done
a DNA test? I am a Campbell and my brother's DNA test indicated we are
not Campbell but Stewart. At the 67 Marker level all close match
surnames are Stewart.
Dee Owens
I just found out something. Don't know wether to laugh or cry!!!
My grandfather 1901-1990.
In July 1937 he became a father 3 times, the wife & 2 girlfriends!!
Yes he also had Campbell blood. Busy, busy man.
Vic
ps
yes AT Dna does not match. 3 Campbell men stand alone in their group.
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Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 8:49 AM
To: campbell(a)rootsweb.com
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Subject: Re: [Campbell] DNA
WHEE DANG! NOTE I am not stateing, JUST ASKING, BUT wondering IF I should
expect an Answer???
In a message dated 6/14/2011 9:27:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
spaceman(a)capecod.net writes:
In reading posts about DNA, several years ago I saw a program from England
in which a Dr. kept records for over 50 years on child birth. By his
records he stated that one in 26 women gave birth in which the husband was
NOT
the father of the child. People haven’t changed much over thousands of
years. Women seem to enjoy sex just about as much as men do. So while my
Campbell ancestor was out pillaging and plundering and creating mayhem, is
it
possible that the Doyle gardener, or Boyle or McShea neighbor across the
glen “done me wrong betwixt my sheets”? Considering that one in 26 is NOT
my
ancestor, how does this affect the DNA project? And how about cousins
marrying cousins? I personally don’t think DNA is a good long term
research
tool because we really don’t know went on betwixt the sheets of our long
dead
ancestors. After all, the only form of birth control available then was
chastity belts!! And someone surely learned to pick the locks. DNA is
good for paternity suits, because you are dealing with only a couple people
and you can do direct testing.
That’s my thoughts!! Happy hunting those prolific Campbells!!
Steve Campbell, (Dougherty, Iowa) ancestor Neis Campbell from Craghey,
Dungloe, Co. Donegal, Ireland
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WHEE DANG! NOTE I am not stateing, JUST ASKING, BUT wondering IF I should
expect an Answer???
In a message dated 6/14/2011 9:27:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
spaceman(a)capecod.net writes:
In reading posts about DNA, several years ago I saw a program from England
in which a Dr. kept records for over 50 years on child birth. By his
records he stated that one in 26 women gave birth in which the husband was NOT
the father of the child. People haven’t changed much over thousands of
years. Women seem to enjoy sex just about as much as men do. So while my
Campbell ancestor was out pillaging and plundering and creating mayhem, is it
possible that the Doyle gardener, or Boyle or McShea neighbor across the
glen “done me wrong betwixt my sheets”? Considering that one in 26 is NOT my
ancestor, how does this affect the DNA project? And how about cousins
marrying cousins? I personally don’t think DNA is a good long term research
tool because we really don’t know went on betwixt the sheets of our long dead
ancestors. After all, the only form of birth control available then was
chastity belts!! And someone surely learned to pick the locks. DNA is
good for paternity suits, because you are dealing with only a couple people
and you can do direct testing.
That’s my thoughts!! Happy hunting those prolific Campbells!!
Steve Campbell, (Dougherty, Iowa) ancestor Neis Campbell from Craghey,
Dungloe, Co. Donegal, Ireland
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Watch out for them danged Elliots!!!
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From: Atpowelljr(a)aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 8:49 AM
To: campbell(a)rootsweb.com
Cc: campbell_kids(a)yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Campbell] DNA
WHEE DANG! NOTE I am not stateing, JUST ASKING, BUT wondering IF I should
expect an Answer???
In a message dated 6/14/2011 9:27:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
spaceman(a)capecod.net writes:
In reading posts about DNA, several years ago I saw a program from England
in which a Dr. kept records for over 50 years on child birth. By his
records he stated that one in 26 women gave birth in which the husband was
NOT
the father of the child. People haven’t changed much over thousands of
years. Women seem to enjoy sex just about as much as men do. So while my
Campbell ancestor was out pillaging and plundering and creating mayhem, is
it
possible that the Doyle gardener, or Boyle or McShea neighbor across the
glen “done me wrong betwixt my sheets”? Considering that one in 26 is NOT
my
ancestor, how does this affect the DNA project? And how about cousins
marrying cousins? I personally don’t think DNA is a good long term
research
tool because we really don’t know went on betwixt the sheets of our long
dead
ancestors. After all, the only form of birth control available then was
chastity belts!! And someone surely learned to pick the locks. DNA is
good for paternity suits, because you are dealing with only a couple people
and you can do direct testing.
That’s my thoughts!! Happy hunting those prolific Campbells!!
Steve Campbell, (Dougherty, Iowa) ancestor Neis Campbell from Craghey,
Dungloe, Co. Donegal, Ireland
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In reading posts about DNA, several years ago I saw a program from England in which a Dr. kept records for over 50 years on child birth. By his records he stated that one in 26 women gave birth in which the husband was NOT the father of the child. People haven’t changed much over thousands of years. Women seem to enjoy sex just about as much as men do. So while my Campbell ancestor was out pillaging and plundering and creating mayhem, is it possible that the Doyle gardener, or Boyle or McShea neighbor across the glen “done me wrong betwixt my sheets”? Considering that one in 26 is NOT my ancestor, how does this affect the DNA project? And how about cousins marrying cousins? I personally don’t think DNA is a good long term research tool because we really don’t know went on betwixt the sheets of our long dead ancestors. After all, the only form of birth control available then was chastity belts!! And someone surely learned to pick the locks. DNA is good for paternity suits, because you are dealing with only a couple people and you can do direct testing.
That’s my thoughts!! Happy hunting those prolific Campbells!!
Steve Campbell, (Dougherty, Iowa) ancestor Neis Campbell from Craghey, Dungloe, Co. Donegal, Ireland
1650 Campbell, Duncan M 1674 Mccoy, Mary 1675
Campbell, Eliza F Girven, Charles
Campbell, James M Wilson, Mary Jane 1867
1721 Campbell, John M Walker, Elizabeth 1703
1721 Campbell, John M 1698 Walker, Elizabeth 1703
1670 Campbell, John M 1650 Hay, Grace 1650
1705 Campbell, Lady Mary F 1690 Woods, Michael 1684
1853 Campbell, Martha F 1832 Brown, James A. 1832
1705 Campbell, Mary F Wood, Michael 1684
THANKS CUZ TOM,
OLE CUZ BH, will do good in Amherst Court house & Lovingston, Nelson
County.
OTHER WISE tha CRITER is so far --------------------, That he is lucky to
wonder, Course if he fails to see OUR OLE George Out on the Porch Waveing
his Red Flanales, wa-ll hit JUS dont be. da OLE CUZ does right good BUT He
refuses to alow for Potential, ONE of the MOST important Reason for Research
<POTENTIAL>
CUZ AT, Believing every thing that I see, NOTY A Chance, BUT I have
LEARNED a great deal by takeing Some farfetched Claims APART, where as CUZ BH
just, COMES up with that Genealogicasl <NO-NO <IT JUST CAIN"T BE> The
Foundation for THE GREATEST GENEALOGICAL Brick wall ONE will ever Encounter
I have reason to <NOTE> Wonder if we Would take a bit of time & search
some OTHER families records: For instance it is a FACT that all Families DID
NOT OWN LAND, That happened in My Family From 1932 When My Father Lost His
Farm untill the 1940'sb when My Mother inherted Land from Her Father.
MY POINT is this;DID or What Kind of rexcord Did MR. Higgenbothan KEEP OF
his RENTER, I have no doubt but what there are CAMPBELL_KIDS, Liveing that
remember their Parents & Other family Members that Have Rented Land to Farm
to make a Living on <??> The land Owner must have kept SOME KIND OF A
RECORD> Cousins, i can NOT believe that My Faqther was THE only Person that
RENTED, FACT, I know That one of BOSS JOSH'S other Descendants RENTED
He was JIM BUCKS son, James Campbell he aqt one time rented a Farm from
Mr. HAM Wilkins On High Peak Road in Amherst County Joining the farm of Mr.
John cam That WE lived on. That was in the 1930's. BUT just THINK If & when
Our non land owning ancestors rented, IF their descendants MIGHt have aq
record that is Potential that we COULD very well have over looked &, it
will never show up in official RECORDS.
Costless But Valuable POTENTIAL Information CUZ AT <atpowelljr(a)aol.com>
In a message dated 6/13/2011 7:55:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
k4ija(a)yahoo.com writes:
I have seen quite a bit on the Campbell families
Lately But CUZ BH, input is to gripe abouit CUZ A T Has it goten to be
all ya
can think of OR is it that you just don't have any concern about GRANNY
KATY?? MAYBE IT would suit CUZ BH, If I JUST STOP? CUZ AT
Cuz AT,
That is the reason that I dropped the discussions, on this group. One or
two, especially one, was always the one to criticize any suggestion offered
by someone, as stupid conjecture. AT, your knowledge has not given me any
connections, but, has kept me from some wild goose chases. For that I am
greatful. Now, back to the sidelines!!!
Tom Campbell
South Carolina
DNA#63616
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Gabriele is correct that autosomal DNA samples all grandparents. However,
the Campbell project at FTDNA only does Y-STR and so doesn't have any
samples from the your maternal line
- Kevin
In a message dated 6/13/2011 6:15:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Atpowelljr(a)aol.com writes:
It will in FF and RF because that is autosomal and does not matter, the
relationships are calculated by chromosome matches and not y or mt dna.
His
father was a STAFFORD, his mother a CAMPBELL. The RF and FF will find
matches from both lines, trick is figuring out "which" line your matches
are
from. If the matches are either of those 2 names it is easy to know.
However, the relationship could be many generations back and be through
daughters of either line whose surnames have changes often through the
generations. Means digging through family trees and finding where the
match
is. Gabriele
Cousins should I get the boxing gloves out? Hey now lets not argue over things we can't prove or disprove folks.
I respect both of you, so I wouldn't know who to place my bet on anyway.
The positive end of all this, is we have met one another on line and know of each others family lines to an extent.
we all have a common bond in the fact that we are closely related, just how is the mystery and the adventure.
Maybe when we reach them ol Perlly Gates, then we will know and we can all then have a good reunion and know
for sure. Right now gentlemen we are still on the journey. It is always good to hear from you all, even if it is a bit heated at times.
Richard L. Brown
OK WISE CUZ, With your Critisizing CUZ A T HAS proven <WHAT??? Hopefuly
There Just might be SOME one With information BUT so far I have Caught the
NON BELIEVER & NONE Producerr of Information I have tried to tell you that
NOTHING IS TO BE Learned <FROM A QUITER> JUST WHAT & where is any thing
FROM CUZ BH Except Crittcise, CUZ AT, I have Never seen any where that CUZ
BH was interested in Seeking any potentional about GRANNY CATY? Let CUZ AT
SAY something & da OLE Aligator Smacks his Silent JAWS & Complains bout da
silent Campbell_KIDS. I have seen quite a bit on the Campbell families
Lately But CUZ BH, input is to gripe abouit CUZ A T Has it goten to be all ya
can think of OR is it that you just don't have any concern about GRANNY
KATY?? MAYBE IT would suit CUZ BH, If I JUST STOP? CUZ AT
In a message dated 6/13/2011 2:31:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bharris1932(a)comcast.net writes:
Cuz AT;
Your rationale for identifying our Granny Caty Campbell as an American
Native is far fetched. She has only one name therefore she is a Native
American!! How smart. Then, all our wives and mothers that we do not know
their surname, are Native American? Most all of our female ancestors that were
married by banns must be American Natives as we seldom know their
surname. Cuz BH
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:07
Subject: THIS IS A WIDE NET INTENDING TO ATRACT MANY CAMPBELL COUSINS<CUZ
AT>
ALWAYS Remember to ASK & ANSWER QUESTIONS SOME ONE KNOWS> I may not Know
the answer BUT I will try to locate SOME ONE Who Does Know Something CUZ AT
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I located this By High lighting, the 2nd Line in your POST; SO, 1818 -
1835 Emigration Rolls. Eastern Emigration Rolls
Eastern Cherokee Emigrating To ARK.
Now You can Highlight Each of those Lines & Very likely find Just what
Y;all are looking for. I am a Descendant of One Gerogr Campbell Born in Va in
1720 & died in 1791 He Married Catherine <UNK> I am of the Impression
That Granny Catherine was Native American, Be Cause Native American Women Had
only one Name AND it was illegale for White & People of Color to Marry in
Virginia Until 1969. I get an Argument that is too much of A guess, With
the Other Side Giving Nothing BUT personal Opinion. This George Campbell &
Catherine were My 8th Great Grand Parents. From OUR OLE George to My Great
Great Grand Son is 12 Generations, That we have very good record OF.
A Grt Grt Grand Pa Bit of PRIDE, <??> Wondering Just how many Grt grt
grand Pa's There are in our Campbell Familr. <SOUND OFF>
CUZ AT ,atpowelljr(a)aol.com>
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Randy
But keep in mind even with familytreedna that the y-dna chromosome is how
ancestry is traced. To clarify that is the male dna, you are the same as
your father is the same as your grandfather, etc. Another aspect of FtDNA
is that they also participate in a National Geographic program and will
provide you with a halpogroup, most likely "R" if your ancestry dates
through UK and western Europe. Native American is yet another letter of the
alphabet. Another thing to do is once you are part of the Campbell project,
look at other surnames and projects such as the Border reiver project which
might just connect you to the ancestry you are seeking - you can join as
many projects as you wish with FtDNA. Join the project first as there is a
different cost when already identified as a project member.
-----Original Message-----
From: Leonard Campbell
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 4:50 PM
To: ranbud(a)gmail.com
Cc: campbell(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [Campbell] CAMPBELL Digest, Vol 6, Issue 134
Randy,
I use www.FamilyTreeDna.com It has a large group of Campbells who are
part of the process. I haven't found any direct relationships, but I do
keep seeing a name (Alexander) popping up with many of the matches.
I'm now following all of his descendants in the hopes of finding something.
If nothing else, I'll have a good descendant genealogy:-))
Or I may end up with a connection.
Or I may end up with nothing. Such is genealogy research!
Pax,
Len
On Jun 13, 2011, at 5:41 PM, campbell-request(a)rootsweb.com wrote:
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:51:01 -0700
> From: Randy Campbell <ranbud(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Campbell] Campbell DNA Tests
> To: campbell(a)rootsweb.com
> Message-ID: <BANLkTikMzcCcc5wkuxp0Z0y8KTK9=KWwnw(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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> To anyone with information on DNA testing...
>
> Can you recommend a particular test to give me both of the following:
>
> 1. Identify if my ancestors were in fact Indian, or even better, Cherokee
> Indian, *AND*
> 2. Identify my Campbell ancestry lines if my line is not Indian.
>
> Thanks
>
> Randy
>
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Randy,
I use www.FamilyTreeDna.com It has a large group of Campbells who are part of the process. I haven't found any direct relationships, but I do keep seeing a name (Alexander) popping up with many of the matches.
I'm now following all of his descendants in the hopes of finding something.
If nothing else, I'll have a good descendant genealogy:-))
Or I may end up with a connection.
Or I may end up with nothing. Such is genealogy research!
Pax,
Len
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 13:51:01 -0700
> From: Randy Campbell <ranbud(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Campbell] Campbell DNA Tests
> To: campbell(a)rootsweb.com
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> To anyone with information on DNA testing...
>
> Can you recommend a particular test to give me both of the following:
>
> 1. Identify if my ancestors were in fact Indian, or even better, Cherokee
> Indian, *AND*
> 2. Identify my Campbell ancestry lines if my line is not Indian.
>
> Thanks
>
> Randy
>
Richard;
AT and I don't have a problem. We talk with each other about ever Friday on the phone and get along just fine. Regards BH
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 18:19
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Cousins should I get the boxing gloves out? Hey now lets not argue over things we can't prove or disprove folks.
I respect both of you, so I wouldn't know who to place my bet on anyway.
The positive end of all this, is we have met one another on line and know of each others family lines to an extent.
we all have a common bond in the fact that we are closely related, just how is the mystery and the adventure.
Maybe when we reach them ol Perlly Gates, then we will know and we can all then have a good reunion and know
for sure. Right now gentlemen we are still on the journey. It is always good to hear from you all, even if it is a bit heated at times.
Richard L. Brown
OK WISE CUZ, With your Critisizing CUZ A T HAS proven <WHAT??? Hopefuly
There Just might be SOME one With information BUT so far I have Caught the
NON BELIEVER & NONE Producerr of Information I have tried to tell you that
NOTHING IS TO BE Learned <FROM A QUITER> JUST WHAT & where is any thing
FROM CUZ BH Except Crittcise, CUZ AT, I have Never seen any where that CUZ
BH was interested in Seeking any potentional about GRANNY CATY? Let CUZ AT
SAY something & da OLE Aligator Smacks his Silent JAWS & Complains bout da
silent Campbell_KIDS. I have seen quite a bit on the Campbell families
Lately But CUZ BH, input is to gripe abouit CUZ A T Has it goten to be all ya
can think of OR is it that you just don't have any concern about GRANNY
KATY?? MAYBE IT would suit CUZ BH, If I JUST STOP? CUZ AT
In a message dated 6/13/2011 2:31:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bharris1932(a)comcast.net writes:
Cuz AT;
Your rationale for identifying our Granny Caty Campbell as an American
Native is far fetched. She has only one name therefore she is a Native
American!! How smart. Then, all our wives and mothers that we do not know
their surname, are Native American? Most all of our female ancestors that were
married by banns must be American Natives as we seldom know their
surname. Cuz BH
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:07
Subject: THIS IS A WIDE NET INTENDING TO ATRACT MANY CAMPBELL COUSINS<CUZ
AT>
ALWAYS Remember to ASK & ANSWER QUESTIONS SOME ONE KNOWS> I may not Know
the answer BUT I will try to locate SOME ONE Who Does Know Something CUZ AT
_Cherokee Census Rolls - FREE Lookups, Dawes, Guion Miller, Baker_
(http://www.comanchelodge.com/cherokee-rolls.html) Please Left Click Both of These
I located this By High lighting, the 2nd Line in your POST; SO, 1818 -
1835 Emigration Rolls. Eastern Emigration Rolls
Eastern Cherokee Emigrating To ARK.
Now You can Highlight Each of those Lines & Very likely find Just what
Y;all are looking for. I am a Descendant of One Gerogr Campbell Born in Va in
1720 & died in 1791 He Married Catherine <UNK> I am of the Impression
That Granny Catherine was Native American, Be Cause Native American Women Had
only one Name AND it was illegale for White & People of Color to Marry in
Virginia Until 1969. I get an Argument that is too much of A guess, With
the Other Side Giving Nothing BUT personal Opinion. This George Campbell &
Catherine were My 8th Great Grand Parents. From OUR OLE George to My Great
Great Grand Son is 12 Generations, That we have very good record OF.
A Grt Grt Grand Pa Bit of PRIDE, <??> Wondering Just how many Grt grt
grand Pa's There are in our Campbell Familr. <SOUND OFF>
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Gabnele< Cuz Kevin Campbell IS THE Campbell Family <D. N. A. > expert 7 is
located in AZ. With the Clan Campbell <D. N. A. > records, JUST maybe CUZ
Kevin can help CUZ AT
In a message dated 6/13/2011 3:47:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
ngharkey(a)sbcglobal.net writes:
It will in FF and RF because that is autosomal and does not matter, the
relationships are calculated by chromosome matches and not y or mt dna.
His
father was a STAFFORD, his mother a CAMPBELL. The RF and FF will find
matches from both lines, trick is figuring out "which" line your matches
are
from. If the matches are either of those 2 names it is easy to know.
However, the relationship could be many generations back and be through
daughters of either line whose surnames have changes often through the
generations. Means digging through family trees and finding where the
match
is. Gabriele
From: Owen Stiles
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 3:35 PM
To: campbell(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [Campbell] CAMPBELL DNA tests
The main difficulty with your friend's DNA test is that he is a Stafford by
birth I am assuming - unless he is a Campbell and adopted. His Y-DNA which
is what would be recorded is in a paternal line not maternal as you
indicate
his mother is a Campbell. DNA in this case might not give him the results
he wishes in the Campbell line.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gabriele Harkey-Bornkessel
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:09 PM
To: campbell(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [Campbell] CAMPBELL DNA tests
I am helping out my neighbor who knows nothing about the "how to" of
genealogy or DNA testing.
He has taken the 23andme Relative Finder test and his results are just
starting to come in so we have nothing to compare just yet but should in a
few days, at the latest. He has had some suspicions that he may have been
adopted.
Is there anyone on list who has participated either in the Relative Finder
test at 23andme, or the Family Finder test at Family Tree and uploaded,
additionally, to gedmatch.com. If he indeed is a Campbell descendant,
there
should be some Campbell out there that he will match. Anyone recognize
and/or tie into the line of Campbell below AND taken dna tests? Reuven has
not done any y-dna testing, and cannot afford to right now, so adding him
to
a Campbell yDNA study isn't possible at this time.
His name at birth was Richard Lee Stafford but he changed his first name to
Reuven. He was born in Indianapolis, Indiana in 1953. His mother was Emma
Genne Campbell, born 07 Mar 1920 in Olive Hill, Carter County, Kentucky.
She
was the daughter of
J(ames) Elmer Campbell b. 22 Jan 1884, also in Kentucky and died in
Indianapolis, Indiana in 1955. As far as we can tell he is buried at
Pleasant Valley Cemetery. His wife was Elizabeth (Lizzie) Sinfia Adams.
Father of J Elmer Campbell is Thomas Campbell, b. abt 1847 in West
Virginia,
married Elizabeth Sams.. In turn his father is Henry Campbell, b. 1816 and
died Nov 1871 in Kanawha County, West Virginia (married Angeline Whitten).
His father is said to be Lemuel Campbell who I have no dates or location
for
and for a spouse I only have the name Sarah - no surname.
TIA, Gabriele
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Cuz AT;
You asked for it. Your quote:
"CUZ BH, WHA YA hideing from HERE Maybe YOU Do not SMELL A Cousin BUT it is FO SHO Something to ponder, CUZ YA gitin as QUITE as da rest ov em Campbell _KIDS CUZ AT"
There has never been even a hint or a suggestion that Granny Caty was a Native American until you got on the subject of the Cherokee Indian connection and then you apparently felt compelled to post the following:
" He Married Catherine <UNK> I am of the Impression That Granny Catherine was Native American, Be Cause Native American Women Had only one Name AND it was illegale for White & People of Color to Marry in Virginia Until 1969"
I just think there is no reason to assume Granny Caty was Native American just because we do not know her surname. We do not know their son George Jr's wife's Elisabeth surname either. Shall we assume she is a Native American as well?
I am not griping about you as you have the right to say what you want to say but I will call you out when I think you are way out in left field. And I don't expect you to get upset. When you find me out in left field, I expect you to call me on it as well. Cuz BH
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 17:23
Subject: Re: THIS IS A WIDE NET INTENDING TO ATRACT MANY CAMPBELL COUSINS<CUZ AT>
OK WISE CUZ, With your Critisizing CUZ A T HAS proven <WHAT??? Hopefuly There Just might be SOME one With information BUT so far I have Caught the NON BELIEVER & NONE Producerr of Information I have tried to tell you that NOTHING IS TO BE Learned <FROM A QUITER> JUST WHAT & where is any thing FROM CUZ BH Except Crittcise, CUZ AT, I have Never seen any where that CUZ BH was interested in Seeking any potentional about GRANNY CATY? Let CUZ AT SAY something & da OLE Aligator Smacks his Silent JAWS & Complains bout da silent Campbell_KIDS. I have seen quite a bit on the Campbell families Lately But CUZ BH, input is to gripe abouit CUZ A T Has it goten to be all ya can think of OR is it that you just don't have any concern about GRANNY KATY?? MAYBE IT would suit CUZ BH, If I JUST STOP? CUZ AT
In a message dated 6/13/2011 2:31:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bharris1932(a)comcast.net writes:
Cuz AT;
Your rationale for identifying our Granny Caty Campbell as an American Native is far fetched. She has only one name therefore she is a Native American!! How smart. Then, all our wives and mothers that we do not know their surname, are Native American? Most all of our female ancestors that were married by banns must be American Natives as we seldom know their surname. Cuz BH
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:07
Subject: THIS IS A WIDE NET INTENDING TO ATRACT MANY CAMPBELL COUSINS<CUZ AT>
a.. ALWAYS Remember to ASK & ANSWER QUESTIONS SOME ONE KNOWS> I may not Know the answer BUT I will try to locate SOME ONE Who Does Know Something CUZ AT
a..
a.. Cherokee Census Rolls - FREE Lookups, Dawes, Guion Miller, Baker Please Left Click Both of These I located this By High lighting, the 2nd Line in your POST; SO, 1818 - 1835 Emigration Rolls. Eastern Emigration Rolls
a.. Eastern Cherokee Emigrating To ARK.
Now You can Highlight Each of those Lines & Very likely find Just what Y;all are looking for. I am a Descendant of One Gerogr Campbell Born in Va in 1720 & died in 1791 He Married Catherine <UNK> I am of the Impression That Granny Catherine was Native American, Be Cause Native American Women Had only one Name AND it was illegale for White & People of Color to Marry in Virginia Until 1969. I get an Argument that is too much of A guess, With the Other Side Giving Nothing BUT personal Opinion. This George Campbell & Catherine were My 8th Great Grand Parents. From OUR OLE George to My Great Great Grand Son is 12 Generations, That we have very good record OF.
A Grt Grt Grand Pa Bit of PRIDE, <??> Wondering Just how many Grt grt grand Pa's There are in our Campbell Familr. <SOUND OFF>
CUZ AT ,atpowelljr(a)aol.com>
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If you have your chromosomes tested (not the dna tests) you will potentially
have markers for one, or several, of 3 groups. Europeans, Asian or African.
So the test is of your chromosomes, autosomal, genome testing.
If you have Native ancestry your chromosomes would have some Asian markers.
How many depends on how far ago the Native is in your ancestry. However, it
can only identify the Asian marker, not a specific tribe.
There has been talk of a Cherokee in my husbands ancestry. My son came out
as 100% European, no Asian marker. My husbands tests will come back soon.
I am guessing he will not have any Asian markers either and the story of the
Native ancestor was someone's fantasy and not a fact.
Gabriele
From: Randy Campbell
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 4:51 PM
To: campbell(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [Campbell] Campbell DNA Tests
To anyone with information on DNA testing...
Can you recommend a particular test to give me both of the following:
1. Identify if my ancestors were in fact Indian, or even better, Cherokee
Indian, *AND*
2. Identify my Campbell ancestry lines if my line is not Indian.
Thanks
Randy
OK WISE CUZ, With your Critisizing CUZ A T HAS proven <WHAT??? Hopefuly
There Just might be SOME one With information BUT so far I have Caught the
NON BELIEVER & NONE Producerr of Information I have tried to tell you that
NOTHING IS TO BE Learned <FROM A QUITER> JUST WHAT & where is any thing
FROM CUZ BH Except Crittcise, CUZ AT, I have Never seen any where that CUZ
BH was interested in Seeking any potentional about GRANNY CATY? Let CUZ AT
SAY something & da OLE Aligator Smacks his Silent JAWS & Complains bout da
silent Campbell_KIDS. I have seen quite a bit on the Campbell families
Lately But CUZ BH, input is to gripe abouit CUZ A T Has it goten to be all ya
can think of OR is it that you just don't have any concern about GRANNY
KATY?? MAYBE IT would suit CUZ BH, If I JUST STOP? CUZ AT
In a message dated 6/13/2011 2:31:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bharris1932(a)comcast.net writes:
Cuz AT;
Your rationale for identifying our Granny Caty Campbell as an American
Native is far fetched. She has only one name therefore she is a Native
American!! How smart. Then, all our wives and mothers that we do not know
their surname, are Native American? Most all of our female ancestors that were
married by banns must be American Natives as we seldom know their
surname. Cuz BH
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Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:07
Subject: THIS IS A WIDE NET INTENDING TO ATRACT MANY CAMPBELL COUSINS<CUZ
AT>
ALWAYS Remember to ASK & ANSWER QUESTIONS SOME ONE KNOWS> I may not Know
the answer BUT I will try to locate SOME ONE Who Does Know Something CUZ AT
_Cherokee Census Rolls - FREE Lookups, Dawes, Guion Miller, Baker_
(http://www.comanchelodge.com/cherokee-rolls.html) Please Left Click Both of These
I located this By High lighting, the 2nd Line in your POST; SO, 1818 -
1835 Emigration Rolls. Eastern Emigration Rolls
Eastern Cherokee Emigrating To ARK.
Now You can Highlight Each of those Lines & Very likely find Just what
Y;all are looking for. I am a Descendant of One Gerogr Campbell Born in Va in
1720 & died in 1791 He Married Catherine <UNK> I am of the Impression
That Granny Catherine was Native American, Be Cause Native American Women Had
only one Name AND it was illegale for White & People of Color to Marry in
Virginia Until 1969. I get an Argument that is too much of A guess, With
the Other Side Giving Nothing BUT personal Opinion. This George Campbell &
Catherine were My 8th Great Grand Parents. From OUR OLE George to My Great
Great Grand Son is 12 Generations, That we have very good record OF.
A Grt Grt Grand Pa Bit of PRIDE, <??> Wondering Just how many Grt grt
grand Pa's There are in our Campbell Familr. <SOUND OFF>
CUZ AT ,atpowelljr(a)aol.com>
Free Forums Include: Cherokee Queries for ALA, ARK, GA, KT, MO, NC, SC,
Indian Territory/OK, TN, TX, ... 1817-1835 Emigration Rolls - Cherokees whom
filed to emigrate to Arkansas. ... 1909 Guion Miller East Roll - Eastern
Cherokee Roll. ...
www.comanchelodge.com/cherokee-rolls.html - _Similar_
(http://search.aol.com/aol/search?s_it=similarPages.search&v_t=TB20&o_q=18... Emigration
Rolls - East Cherokees emigrating to
Arkansas.&q=related:www.comanchelodge.com/cherokee-rolls.html+1817-1835 Emigration Rolls - East Cherokees emigrating to
Arkansas.)
_All Things Cherokee: FAQ - I Know I'm Cherokee, But How Do I ..._
(http://www.allthingscherokee.com/faq_proving.html) PLEASE Left Click
... on the Cherokee reservation (Eastern Band). Emigration Rolls
1817-1835. Recorded those Cherokee who chose to "emigrate" to Indian Territory west
of the Mississippi River in present day Oklahoma and Arkansas (prior to the
Trail of Tears. ... Description: Indexes all rolls of the Eastern
Cherokee, taken from 1817 ...
www.allthingscherokee.com/faq_proving.html - _Similar_
(http://search.aol.com/aol/search?s_it=similarPages.search&v_t=TB20&o_q=18... Emigration
Rolls - East Cherokees emigrating to
Arkansas.&q=related:www.allthingscherokee.com/faq_proving.html+1817-1835 Emigration Rolls - East Cherokees emigrating
to Arkansas.)
I have seen quite a bit on the Campbell families
Lately But CUZ BH, input is to gripe abouit CUZ A T Has it goten to be all ya
can think of OR is it that you just don't have any concern about GRANNY
KATY?? MAYBE IT would suit CUZ BH, If I JUST STOP? CUZ AT
Cuz AT,
That is the reason that I dropped the discussions, on this group. One or two, especially one, was always the one to criticize any suggestion offered by someone, as stupid conjecture. AT, your knowledge has not given me any connections, but, has kept me from some wild goose chases. For that I am greatful. Now, back to the sidelines!!!
Tom Campbell
South Carolina
DNA#63616
The DNA tests will not show any direct relationship to any one person.
What the DNA test will indicate is a haplo group or a higher likely-hood that one is related from a particular family.
The relationships are only indicated by others who have the same results.
But none of these results are conclusive nor can they be used to prove any relationships.
The benefit of these tests are to find others who have the same results and compare proven relationships and hopefully find some links.
Use the matches to compare notes, and if you are lucky, you find a link.
On Jun 13, 2011, at 4:08 PM, campbell-request(a)rootsweb.com wrote:
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:09:47 -0400
> From: "Gabriele Harkey-Bornkessel" <ngharkey(a)sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [Campbell] CAMPBELL DNA tests
> To: <campbell(a)rootsweb.com>
> Message-ID: <2784B50CB7A54856A2A8293E044C63FA@GabrielePC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> I am helping out my neighbor who knows nothing about the "how to" of
> genealogy or DNA testing.
>
> He has taken the 23andme Relative Finder test and his results are just
> starting to come in so we have nothing to compare just yet but should in a
> few days, at the latest. He has had some suspicions that he may have been
> adopted.
>
> Is there anyone on list who has participated either in the Relative Finder
> test at 23andme, or the Family Finder test at Family Tree and uploaded,
> additionally, to gedmatch.com. If he indeed is a Campbell descendant, there
> should be some Campbell out there that he will match. Anyone recognize
> and/or tie into the line of Campbell below AND taken dna tests? Reuven has
> not done any y-dna testing, and cannot afford to right now, so adding him to
> a Campbell yDNA study isn't possible at this time.
>
> His name at birth was Richard Lee Stafford but he changed his first name to
> Reuven. He was born in Indianapolis, Indiana in 1953. His mother was Emma
> Genne Campbell, born 07 Mar 1920 in Olive Hill, Carter County, Kentucky. She
> was the daughter of
> J(ames) Elmer Campbell b. 22 Jan 1884, also in Kentucky and died in
> Indianapolis, Indiana in 1955. As far as we can tell he is buried at
> Pleasant Valley Cemetery. His wife was Elizabeth (Lizzie) Sinfia Adams.
>
> Father of J Elmer Campbell is Thomas Campbell, b. abt 1847 in West Virginia,
> married Elizabeth Sams.. In turn his father is Henry Campbell, b. 1816 and
> died Nov 1871 in Kanawha County, West Virginia (married Angeline Whitten).
> His father is said to be Lemuel Campbell who I have no dates or location for
> and for a spouse I only have the name Sarah - no surname.
>
> TIA, Gabriele
It will in FF and RF because that is autosomal and does not matter, the
relationships are calculated by chromosome matches and not y or mt dna. His
father was a STAFFORD, his mother a CAMPBELL. The RF and FF will find
matches from both lines, trick is figuring out "which" line your matches are
from. If the matches are either of those 2 names it is easy to know.
However, the relationship could be many generations back and be through
daughters of either line whose surnames have changes often through the
generations. Means digging through family trees and finding where the match
is. Gabriele
From: Owen Stiles
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 3:35 PM
To: campbell(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [Campbell] CAMPBELL DNA tests
The main difficulty with your friend's DNA test is that he is a Stafford by
birth I am assuming - unless he is a Campbell and adopted. His Y-DNA which
is what would be recorded is in a paternal line not maternal as you indicate
his mother is a Campbell. DNA in this case might not give him the results
he wishes in the Campbell line.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gabriele Harkey-Bornkessel
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:09 PM
To: campbell(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: [Campbell] CAMPBELL DNA tests
I am helping out my neighbor who knows nothing about the "how to" of
genealogy or DNA testing.
He has taken the 23andme Relative Finder test and his results are just
starting to come in so we have nothing to compare just yet but should in a
few days, at the latest. He has had some suspicions that he may have been
adopted.
Is there anyone on list who has participated either in the Relative Finder
test at 23andme, or the Family Finder test at Family Tree and uploaded,
additionally, to gedmatch.com. If he indeed is a Campbell descendant, there
should be some Campbell out there that he will match. Anyone recognize
and/or tie into the line of Campbell below AND taken dna tests? Reuven has
not done any y-dna testing, and cannot afford to right now, so adding him to
a Campbell yDNA study isn't possible at this time.
His name at birth was Richard Lee Stafford but he changed his first name to
Reuven. He was born in Indianapolis, Indiana in 1953. His mother was Emma
Genne Campbell, born 07 Mar 1920 in Olive Hill, Carter County, Kentucky. She
was the daughter of
J(ames) Elmer Campbell b. 22 Jan 1884, also in Kentucky and died in
Indianapolis, Indiana in 1955. As far as we can tell he is buried at
Pleasant Valley Cemetery. His wife was Elizabeth (Lizzie) Sinfia Adams.
Father of J Elmer Campbell is Thomas Campbell, b. abt 1847 in West Virginia,
married Elizabeth Sams.. In turn his father is Henry Campbell, b. 1816 and
died Nov 1871 in Kanawha County, West Virginia (married Angeline Whitten).
His father is said to be Lemuel Campbell who I have no dates or location for
and for a spouse I only have the name Sarah - no surname.
TIA, Gabriele
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