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I lived and worked in Tenn for 15 years. I can regale- did I spell that
right- with stories about moonshine, gun shots, roads not to go up - etc-
How much time have we got. Big smile, here. Barb in St Pete
Jan 20, 2011 08:02:56 AM, campbell(a)rootsweb.com wrote:
my father in law now deceased, had a private stihl and would make shine
in his basement back in the 60's until the gas and electric man found
it! lol
On 1/19/2011 10:32 PM, Beverly Luther wrote:
> My Dad moved us to South FL from NC in 1966 to take a job as an airline
pilot.
> I remember when my uncle came down probably in the late 60's he brought
some
> moonshine with him. They were drinking it but I just smelled it. That
was
> enough for me to not want to taste it.
>
>
> Bev
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: dgp
> To: campbell(a)rootsweb.com
> Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 6:27:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Campbell] WINTER PEOPLE
>
> My uncle Robert Campbell, b.1924 (?) "ran" a bit of it in his younger
days
> . Life was hard back then and there, so it took a tough people to
survive.
>
> Dorothy in N. FL.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
>> CUZ, Bev& DOT, Shucks Younguns, WELL i reckon so, ya be younguns, as I
>> am
>> going be 85 come March, 6th, Cuz ah jus wonder tha meaning ov da making
>> tha Campbell's lookin BAD____________??. I went to our Campbell KIDS
>> reunion
>> in 2009& mentioned Moonshineing to the elderly Cousin that was Sighning
>> us is, her reply was shore nuff, when>> was a way of life, Course I
have not found no hoss thieves in the Croud,
>> BUt
>> am right with the right in the know ah Body would most likely find a
>> snort
>> of tha resecipe, inny fo sho nuff letts hopr to see this MOVIE
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My husband did home restorations- or buildings- he was working up in the ceiling of a big warehouse- knocked one bottle of clear fluid down onto the cement floor- this is in Tenn, years ago. It broke all over the place, of course- and he brought one home. He said all the workers were so woozy- foggy- that they laughed and stumbled around. He sipped a little, at home- I just smelled it, too - we dumped it down the drain. Homemade stuff. Whew. Probably cleared the drains out. Barb in St Pete
Jan 19, 2011 10:33:24 PM, campbell(a)rootsweb.com wrote:
My Dad moved us to South FL from NC in 1966 to take a job as an airline pilot.
I remember when my uncle came down probably in the late 60's he brought some
moonshine with him. They were drinking it but I just smelled it. That was
enough for me to not want to taste it.
Bev
________________________________
From: dgp
To: campbell(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 6:27:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Campbell] WINTER PEOPLE
My uncle Robert Campbell, b.1924 (?) "ran" a bit of it in his younger days
. Life was hard back then and there, so it took a tough people to survive.
Dorothy in N. FL.
----- Original Message -----
From:
> CUZ, Bev & DOT, Shucks Younguns, WELL i reckon so, ya be younguns, as I
> am
> going be 85 come March, 6th, Cuz ah jus wonder tha meaning ov da making
> tha Campbell's lookin BAD____________??. I went to our Campbell KIDS
> reunion
> in 2009 & mentioned Moonshineing to the elderly Cousin that was Sighning
> us is, her reply was shore nuff, when
Atpowelljr(a)aol.com wrote:
>> In a message dated 1/20/2011 5:46:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> hardyplants(a)gmail.com writes:
>>
>> Atpowelljr(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>> NOT intendening to implicate any one; <BUT> ???< the <D. N. A.
>>>> MUTATION<?? <Genetic OR promiscous <???> YEP I know, But the
>>>> Human being has over
>>>> time,
>>
>> That would not change things by one allelle, even brothers are
>> further
>> apart than
>> that.
>> OK CUZ,
I am NOT your cousin.
And we were discussing the situation of one allele difference in the Y chromosome,
and not the introduction of a completely different set of DNA.
This is not opinion, or gossip, this is the science of DNA and how mutations etc
works and can be observed in genetic study.
Jill
ANOTHER MYSTRY Descendendant, IF you are a member of THE CLAN Campbell,
AND, as there is ONly one Clan Campbell, Just what evidence is there that
we are NOT COUSINS??
?? Mutation/S;
1 The act or process of being altered or changed;
2; an Alteration as in form, nature, or quality,
3; Biol; a. inheritable alteration of the genes or chrosomes of an
orgasam, So My contension that the difference in the <D. N. A. in one Child
born into a Multi child family Could very well be from Different Fathers, How
ever that might have Happened. Question to CUZ Kevin. if there would be as
Different <D. N. A. Result in one Child in a Famioy, Is it Not posiable
for there to have been another Male involved & not Nessarley A freek of
Nature. CUZ A T
In a message dated 1/21/2011 3:09:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
hardyplants(a)gmail.com writes:
Atpowelljr(a)aol.com wrote:
>> In a message dated 1/20/2011 5:46:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> hardyplants(a)gmail.com writes:
>>
>> Atpowelljr(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>> NOT intendening to implicate any one; <BUT> ???< the <D. N. A.
>>>> MUTATION<?? <Genetic OR promiscous <???> YEP I know, But the
>>>> Human being has over
>>>> time,
>>
>> That would not change things by one allelle, even brothers are
>> further
>> apart than
>> that.
>> OK CUZ,
I am NOT your cousin.
And we were discussing the situation of one allele difference in the Y
chromosome,
and not the introduction of a completely different set of DNA.
This is not opinion, or gossip, this is the science of DNA and how
mutations etc
works and can be observed in genetic study.
Jill
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In a message dated 1/20/2011 5:46:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
hardyplants(a)gmail.com writes:
Atpowelljr(a)aol.com wrote:
>> NOT intendening to implicate any one; <BUT> ???< the <D. N. A.
>> MUTATION<?? <Genetic OR promiscous <???> YEP I know, But the
>> Human being has over
>> time,
That would not change things by one allelle, even brothers are further
apart than
that.
OK CUZ, How about that Neighbour who helped put out the Crop while, PA was
away in the War, CUZ You are putting too much Trust in Your Hopes, That
The Mother did not STRAY. When A difference in < D. N. A.
results would be involved__________________>??> I would rely on the side
od reality in stead Of on Hope.
All True, it takes two to tango, BUT when it comes to intiment relations,
There have been Many Tango's.
So when Junior's, Willies, & brother John comes out the same, & Brother,
Lawrence shows ____________ With a Different <D. N. A. > ???
A Flaw of nature,?? Grannys SHHISH, has swept much under the rug, I will
have to rely on my experence & observation of the action of the Human
instead of Blameing nature, for a Flaw.
BUT as the right to disagree is in My opinion, THE greatest right on this
earth. TO Each their Own. CUZ A T
THIS IS THE greatest Misconception Any one ever had, About FAMILY TREES.
TRY to imagine how ANY thing would have got on record IF NOT FROM A human
HEAD. It would be imposiable for any record to exist if the information had
not came from a Human MIND
Where so many Stricklers, FLUB their research, <IS> they forget that the
Ancestor who left the record at the Court house, Knew the Difference in the
Same First & Last Named Members of their families Were, that Person that
you are Blaming for makeing a Family record that YOU/WE are unable to
understand is, <SIMPLE> The person that you & I/WE blame___Wrongly KNEW the
<NICK> Name for every one of those members with the same first & last Named
family Members
There is very liottle wrong with the Family TREES, The problem is , that
we do not have the <IDING KEY, namely, <NICK NAME> Which were not
registered at the Court Houses, THAT is why those old trunks would be of so much
Help.
THINK & say what one wishes,
but the NICK Name is most likely the KEY that is needed. CUZ A T
In a message dated 1/20/2011 4:01:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
braydon29(a)kc.rr.com writes:
agreed 100%. The census are among the best records. The family trees are
garbage and they just copy one from each other.
Donna Bray
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from what I understand of what I read on the dna discussion lists, it
is exactly by examining a man's ydna (male ancestral dna) that we find
out about ancestors, indescretions and adoptions.
for example. 5 people test for...let's say Archibald Campbell (not
the line I'm researching as far as I know, but I'm brickwalled on
Samuel of Piller Point, Jefferson, NY). anyway, so 5 people test for
Archie. one has full data, well documented, the rest run the gamit
from just knowing their great grandfather to up to a possible link to
Archie. they all test to 67 markers (the only real way to find out how
connected you are to others who've tested, and especially important
for the more common names, which includes Campbell). the one with the
most documented data becomes the CVR, the one that everyone else is
compared against. no-one can test Archie without finding his burial,
exhuming him (difficult both legally and financially, over $1000 just
to exhume, plus plenty of paperwork-if you can get the ok, which is
rare.) and testing extant hair or tooth dna (sometimes marrow is
done, it depends) all of these tests makes our saliva/cell tests a
pitance in cost comparison. so unless by some miracle dna remains
extant above ground (hair in a hairbrush, saliva on a postage stamp
sort of stuff) you have to go with decendant's saliva or gum cells.
so the guy who has the documented data on Archie is compared against
the other people who test. some will match, some wont. some will
match very, very distantly. the way to tell is through mutations.
some people have one or two mutations. that makes them sons, siblings
or first cousins. usually. sometimes the dna stays "clean" for
generations and you can run into a 5th cousin who has only 1 or 2
mutations from the CVR, but usually there's at least 5-7. sometimes a
family branch mutates radically, or, in the case of my husband (a
Scots Moore) most of the other testees with his surname are of Irish
ancestry. my husband also has a unique mutation. of 402 Moore testees
he is the only R21+ (shorthand for his haplotype, which is very long)
with 9 markers at DYS 572-usually Moores have 13 markers at DYS 572.
there is an E haplotype with 9 markers at DYS 572, but he's an Irish
Moore. we know my husband's ancestry, having connected with another
Moore at 23andme, and the ancestry is definitely Scottish, but we are
missing the connecting ancestors. well, I digressed, but it was to
present an example with which I am quite familiar. at Family Tree
dna, my husband's matches are mostly non-Moores, not (as FTdna have
assured me) because he is from a line of indescretion or adoption,
but because the people he matches are. at both sites few people
closely related to him have tested. everyone we've spoken to with a
Moore connection is further than 5th cousin out. if there is an
indescretion, or an adoption, it will show up in the dna. as an
example (no-one specific, making this up on the wing), someone tests
to 67 markers. they've researched, with some difficulty, to an
ancestor in the late 1700's, a John Yokum. just for the example we'll
say 50 people with male Yokum ancestry have tested, most of them to 67
markers. this individuals results come back, and he's told that he can
go look in his file. he does so...and every match is a Coder. wait a
minute, where are my Yokum relatives?!?...he doesn't have any because
there's an NPE in his line-a non-parental event. the dna has disclosed
something no-one thought would ever be discovered, great, great grama
wasn't toeing the line. either before or after she married great,
great grampa there was a tumble he didn't know about. or knew about
and chose to live with. but you didn't discuss those things back
then, and great grampa may have never known. so the dna will out,
every time. and how did it prove he was a Coder? because there's 120
Coders who tested and he fits their modal, not the Yokum's. those
modals are very specific to some groups, and harder to tell with
others.
if you go to FTdna there's a place to put your surname in. when you
do and click on go, it will take you to the surname site. investigate
the site and see where the files are kept. check your names in the
ydna and mtdna returns. examine the markers. you'll notice a pattern.
the first 12 say basically "I am related to this name. it can't tell
you much more than that. test to 24 markers, it will tell you "I come
from this subgroup", and if the name is specific to an area, it can
tell you that as well. test out to 67 markers, it will tell you "I am
related closely/distantly to the others near me who also tested to
12/24/37/67 markers, and less closely to those listed further away
from me. a numerical map and relationship chart begins to emerge. it
takes time and close observation to work it out, but it will give you
an idea-and it's free to study these lists of markers. for the more
fully managed dna surname sites, you can find some genealogy
included. poke around, each site is different.
I hope this explains dna in such a manner that we all understand it.
I've been testing for 3 years and it took a lot of reading to get this
much, and it's just a shell to a growing amount of information. there
is medical/health dna testing which I did not mention, and more
technical and complicated stuff that I can only say sign up for the
dna discussion lists on Rootsweb for that, it's pretty much over my
head.
best,
Cornelia
NOT intendening to implicate any one; <BUT> ???< the <D. N. A.
MUTATION<?? <Genetic OR promiscous <???> YEP I know, But the Human being has over
time, Straid __________?? Not intending to create a SQUABLE< BUT the unknown
does leave much to wonder about?? CUZ A T
I am coming to this discussion late, so I may not be answering the
question.
I assume that Alexander was the distant forefather of a bunch of Campbells.
If that is so, Alexander's DNA was obtained from one or more of his
descendants.
It is an oversimplification to say that the Y-chromosome is passed from
father to
son unchanged. Every so often a mutation occurs. For example, the
Y-chromosome
of a third-cousin of mine and my Y-chromosome differ by one allele. So even
though we share a g-g-grandfather our Y-chromosomes are slightly different.
These mutations actually make DNA genealogy possible. The fewer differences
in two male's DNA the more closely they are related. If every Campbell's
Y-chromosome were identical it would not be possible to use DNA for
genealogy.
Jim Campbell
On 1/20/2011 10:31 AM, Donna Garland wrote:
> i feel that way about all of the families that do the dna project and
> have been wanting to ask the same question!
>
> On 1/19/2011 2:24 AM, Atpowelljr(a)aol.com wrote:
>> Every man and woman has 22 pairs of chromosomes plus a 23rd pair which
>> contains the sexual
>> chromosomes X and Y. Men have the pairing of XY -chromosomes. Women
have
>> an XX pair. The
>> Y-chromosome is passed down, essentially unchanged from father to son.
>> Science can now
>> uniquely identify a father and son by the Y-chromosome. Of course, the
>> father’s father also had
>> the same Y-chromosome and so forth back in history. I have the same
>> Y-chromosome as
>> Alexander Campbell’s father, grandfather and so on. GRANTED, Question??
>> Just how was Alexander Campbell's<D. N. A. Obtained??? CUZ A T
>> _______________________________________
<p><br>
Oh stuff happens no doubt AT but I'm pretty sure he means Darwin typa stuff. I'm also quite certain he's right about how your Alexander was ID'd</p>
<p>Sue</p>
<p>Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android</p>
<p><br>
Oh stuff happens no doubt AT but I'm pretty sure he means Darwin typa stuff. I'm also quite certain he's right about how your Alexander was ID'd</p>
<p>Sue</p>
<p>Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android</p>
i feel that way about all of the families that do the dna project and
have been wanting to ask the same question!
On 1/19/2011 2:24 AM, Atpowelljr(a)aol.com wrote:
> Every man and woman has 22 pairs of chromosomes plus a 23rd pair which
> contains the sexual
> chromosomes X and Y. Men have the pairing of XY -chromosomes. Women have
> an XX pair. The
> Y-chromosome is passed down, essentially unchanged from father to son.
> Science can now
> uniquely identify a father and son by the Y-chromosome. Of course, the
> father’s father also had
> the same Y-chromosome and so forth back in history. I have the same
> Y-chromosome as
> Alexander Campbell’s father, grandfather and so on. GRANTED, Question??
> Just how was Alexander Campbell's<D. N. A. Obtained??? CUZ A T
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http://www.amazon.com/Winter-People-Kurt-Russell/dp/B000059TGF
Starring Kurt Russell, Kelly McGillis, Lloyd Bridges, 1989
DVD is available for $13.49
VHS is available for $ 1.75
Or watch instantly with Video on Demand for $2.99
Netflix's availability is "uncertain".
May be at your local library...?
Jim,
This Alexander Campbell That You Are Talking About, What Time Frame Are You Talking About { late 1700's , ect. } , & Location He Lived In { VA. / TN. / Ect. } ???????
The Reason That I Am Asking, My Fountain Campbell { born 1803 VA. }, Is Listed As Poss. Son Of Alexander Campbell In Russell County, VA. 1850 Census .............
Hoping To Hear From You Soon !!!!!!!
Sincerely,
Sam Campbell
--- On Thu, 1/20/11, Jim Campbell <jim(a)w4bqp.net> wrote:
From: Jim Campbell <jim(a)w4bqp.net>
Subject: Re: [Campbell] JUST HAD TO ASK
To: campbell(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 11:43 AM
I am coming to this discussion late, so I may not be answering the question.
I assume that Alexander was the distant forefather of a bunch of Campbells.
If that is so, Alexander's DNA was obtained from one or more of his
descendants.
It is an oversimplification to say that the Y-chromosome is passed from
father to
son unchanged. Every so often a mutation occurs. For example, the
Y-chromosome
of a third-cousin of mine and my Y-chromosome differ by one allele. So even
though we share a g-g-grandfather our Y-chromosomes are slightly different.
These mutations actually make DNA genealogy possible. The fewer differences
in two male's DNA the more closely they are related. If every Campbell's
Y-chromosome were identical it would not be possible to use DNA for
genealogy.
Jim Campbell
how do we know that this movie is about the campbell family?
On 1/20/2011 1:39 AM, Atpowelljr(a)aol.com wrote:
> AW CUZ, Ya didn't miss alot more that A bad head aike, Any how you are
> just as well off. CUZ A T
>
>
> In a message dated 1/19/2011 10:34:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> beverlysueluther(a)yahoo.com writes:
>
> My Dad moved us to South FL from NC in 1966 to take a job as an airline
> pilot.
> I remember when my uncle came down probably in the late 60's he brought
> some
> moonshine with him. They were drinking it but I just smelled it. That
> was
> enough for me to not want to taste it.
>
>
> Bev
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: dgp<dgpagano(a)earthlink.net>
> To: campbell(a)rootsweb.com
> Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 6:27:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Campbell] WINTER PEOPLE<SHO HOPE TO SEE CUZ A T>
>
> My uncle Robert Campbell, b.1924 (?) "ran" a bit of it in his younger
> days
> . Life was hard back then and there, so it took a tough people to survive.
>
> Dorothy in N. FL.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:<Atpowelljr(a)aol.com>
>> CUZ, Bev& DOT, Shucks Younguns, WELL i reckon so, ya be younguns, as I
>> am
>> going be 85 come March, 6th, Cuz ah jus wonder tha meaning ov da making
>> tha Campbell's lookin BAD____________??. I went to our Campbell KIDS
>> reunion
>> in 2009& mentioned Moonshineing to the elderly Cousin that was Sighning
>> us is, her reply was shore nuff, when<I--She. was a youngen
> Moonshinning
>> was a way of life, Course I have not found no hoss thieves in the
> Croud,
>> BUt
>> am right with the right in the know ah Body would most likely find a
>> snort
>> of tha resecipe, inny fo sho nuff letts hopr to see this MOVIE
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AW CUZ, Ya didn't miss alot more that A bad head aike, Any how you are
just as well off. CUZ A T
In a message dated 1/19/2011 10:34:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
beverlysueluther(a)yahoo.com writes:
My Dad moved us to South FL from NC in 1966 to take a job as an airline
pilot.
I remember when my uncle came down probably in the late 60's he brought
some
moonshine with him. They were drinking it but I just smelled it. That
was
enough for me to not want to taste it.
Bev
________________________________
From: dgp <dgpagano(a)earthlink.net>
To: campbell(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 6:27:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Campbell] WINTER PEOPLE <SHO HOPE TO SEE CUZ A T>
My uncle Robert Campbell, b.1924 (?) "ran" a bit of it in his younger
days
. Life was hard back then and there, so it took a tough people to survive.
Dorothy in N. FL.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Atpowelljr(a)aol.com>
> CUZ, Bev & DOT, Shucks Younguns, WELL i reckon so, ya be younguns, as I
> am
> going be 85 come March, 6th, Cuz ah jus wonder tha meaning ov da making
> tha Campbell's lookin BAD____________??. I went to our Campbell KIDS
> reunion
> in 2009 & mentioned Moonshineing to the elderly Cousin that was Sighning
> us is, her reply was shore nuff, when <I--She. was a youngen
Moonshinning
> was a way of life, Course I have not found no hoss thieves in the
Croud,
> BUt
> am right with the right in the know ah Body would most likely find a
> snort
> of tha resecipe, inny fo sho nuff letts hopr to see this MOVIE
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Where did CUZ Robert Campbell LIVE? My late Mama made Daddy leave Amherst
County, Va in 1937 in her idea to keep her Sons from becomeing
Moonshiners, YEP it worked CUZ A T
In a message dated 1/19/2011 7:27:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
dgpagano(a)earthlink.net writes:
My uncle Robert Campbell, b.1924 (?) "ran" a bit of it in his younger
days
. Life was hard back then and there, so it took a tough people to survive.
Dorothy in N. FL.
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From: <Atpowelljr(a)aol.com>
> CUZ, Bev & DOT, Shucks Younguns, WELL i reckon so, ya be younguns, as I
> am
> going be 85 come March, 6th, Cuz ah jus wonder tha meaning ov da making
> tha Campbell's lookin BAD____________??. I went to our Campbell KIDS
> reunion
> in 2009 & mentioned Moonshineing to the elderly Cousin that was Sighning
> us is, her reply was shore nuff, when <I--She. was a youngen
Moonshinning
> was a way of life, Course I have not found no hoss thieves in the
Croud,
> BUt
> am right with the right in the know ah Body would most likely find a
> snort
> of tha resecipe, inny fo sho nuff letts hopr to see this MOVIE
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