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In a message dated 07/25/2003 4:51:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
inverawe(a)shaw.ca writes:
> The Campbell motto is NE OBLIVISCARIS and as best as can be translated
> means DON'T FORGET.
Isn't this the Latin translation though? I've always wondered what
the Gaelic spelling was.
And I always assumed what we weren't to forget was how others treated
us, either good or bad, and to react accordingly.
dgp
Does anyone know the correct Gaelic translation of "Never
forget" or "Do not forget" the Clan motto? I'd be interested in seeing it.
Thanks,
Dale Patterson
The Campbell motto is NE OBLIVISCARIS and as best as can be translated means DON'T FORGET. and for
what it's worth, have yet to meet anyone who might be able to shed some light on exactly what it is that
we are not to forget - probably the motto:))
Trust this helps...
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Subject: Gaelic translation?
>
>
> Does anyone know the correct Gaelic translation of "Never
> forget" or "Do not forget" the Clan motto? I'd be interested in seeing it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dale Patterson
>
>
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Hi all.... thought I would post again in hopes of finding more information on my Campbell's. Looking for a connection to my Campbell line from South Carolina,Georgia and Flordia.
William Campbell b. about 1750 lived in Barnwell Co. South Carolina, and died about 1822/23. His children were: Sarah b. abt. 1774, Israel b. about 1775, d. about 1818, m. Loudicy (Dicy) BEST, Millicent m. __ BRYANT, Joshua m. Zilpha _____(?), Alexander m. Elizabeth ___(?), and Mary m. ____(?) FULLERTON and then Cornelius TAYLOR. William did draw land lots in Liberty Co., Georgia in 1796.
Israel and Loudicy's children were William D. b. 1800-01 in South Carolina, m. Elizabeth LEWIS of Screven Co., Georgia, Thomas B., d. before 5 Jan 1820, and Mary B. (Pollie) m. James Weston BOWIE.
William D. CAMPBELL b. abt. 1801 in SC and m. Elizabeth LEWIS b. in GA. abt. 1812, m. 7 Jan. 1828. They are listed in the 1850, 1860 Screven Co. Ga Census, 1870 Dooly Co. GA. Census with the following children: Catherine b. abt.1829, Mary b. abt. 1833, Henry b. abt 1835, Elizabeth b. abt. 1836, Nancy b. abt. 1838, William D.Jr., b. abt. 1840, Louisiana b. abt. 1847, Jane b. abt. 1845, Thomas b. abt. 1847, Sarah b. abt. 1850, John Madison b. abt. 1852 and Richard W.(Wilson) b. abt. 1853.
Richard W. CAMPBELL b. 1854 (Ga) m. Sarah Isabella SUTTON b. 1847 (Ga) abt. 1875 their children were:
Sidney Smith b. 4 Dec. 1883 Worth Co. Georgia m. Nina Pearl JONES (my line)
Richard Wilson b. ? (worked for the Railroad and is buried at Westview Cem. in Atlanta, Georgia.
John (JW) also worked for the Railroad and moved to Jacksonville Fl.
Thomas H. m. Sallie Kate (?) moved to Tampa Fl.
Sally L. m. Tip (PT) HILL moved to Winter Park Fl.
Thanks for all of you help,
Pam
> Does anyone have any information on books published by the American
> Bible Society, 1857, NY?
There still is an American Bible Society
http://www.americanbible.org/library/
scroll down to ABS timeline.
Are you looking for information about the society or about a specific book?
A friend has asked me to trace his mothers relatives from the Dumfries & Galloway area of Scotland around 1927.
His information about the family is as follows
My mums parents were William Campbell and M.S(nickname Alexina) Campbell, nee Downie. All we know about them was that they were married on 31st Dec 1925, at Inchture, Dumfries, in what is possibly now Perthshire. They had 4 kids- James the eldest, then my mum Miriam Stewart (on 25 0ct 1927, at either Boghall or St Martins, one location being given as her birth place on her birth certificate, the different one on her marriage certificate) then Margaret and finally Colin, the youngest.
My mum was adopted out to an aunt around 1932, married name of Rennie, and forbidden contact with her birth family.
She then went on to marry my dad, James Fulton, on 9th June 1951, in Dundee.Then they came out to NZ in 1966.
Both my parents are still in NZ and though my Dad has dementia my mum's still a source of info, though being adopted at 5 she can't really recollect much about her birth family.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please reply direct.
Mike Cuming Ina frosty Hamilton, New Zealand
Does anyone have any information on books published by the American
Bible Society, 1857, NY?
I realize that is a long time ago, perhaps they are still in business
and have other publications available. If not, anything like that ring a
bell that might be on line?
Thanks, Gwen
Thanks Diramid,
I will show this letter to my neighbor! It is always nice to find out truth
in these matters. I thank you for your time to respond to my question.
Allen Lawrence
"Diarmid Campbell" <diarmid(a)diarmid.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
Allen,
There is probably an incident which has produced the idea about Campbells
and Munns which your friend believes in. But just as with genealogy, it
would be interesting to have some factual documentary proof, not just
tradition and then it would be possible to look into the business (if it
occurred as he believes) and figure out if and why it happened.
I find the idea curious since Saint Munn was from the earliest times the
patron saint of the Campbell family - from even before they took the surname
Campbell and were still using the kindred name O'Duine. There is a Kilmun
(church of St. Munn) near each place where the chiefs of the family have
made their home and the Mediaeval Chiefs of Clan Campbell are buried at
Kilmun near Dunoon in the Cowal district of Argyll. There is a mausoleum
there. (see The History of Clan Campbell, Vol. I, by Alastair Campbell of
Airds, Edinburgh University Press, still in print). The Munns here in
Argyll whom I have met have no such tradition and appear to descent from
people who lived cheerfully adjacent to Campbells here. There was much
killing over religious issues in the Civil War of the 17th century in
Scotland and perhaps there was some incident at that time upon which your
friend's beilief is based.
Diarmid
Campbell in Argyll in Scotland.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Allen Lawrence" <awl1957(a)hotmail.com>
To: <CAMPBELL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 3:40 PM
Subject: Cambell's and the Munn's
>
> Hi List,
>
> Recently a friend was visiting in my home and he noticed my Clan Campbell
> Journal and he state that the Campbells nearly wiped out the Munn Family.
> Is there any facts to this thought! He is a Munn very headstrong (unlike
me
> (GRIN)) and insists that this is true.
>
> Allen Lawrence
>
> My line
>
> Charles C. Campbell b. about 1772 in North Carolina, USA died Abt.
January
> 16, 1839 in Houston Co., Republic of TX married to Selah Carter b.1795 in
> Mississippi, USA d.January 23, 1839 in Houston Co., Republic of TX
(indian
> raid) they married September 01, 1813 in Natchez, Adams Co., MS
>
> Their Son: Elon A. Campbell b Bet. 1809 - 1815 in Meadville, Franklin
Co.,
> MS died Unknown in LA? USA
> married Mary Strickland b June 1830 died September 01, 1913 in New
Boston,
> Bowie County Texas USA
>
> Their Daughter Mary Idella Campbell b Feb 13,1871 in Desoto Parish,
> Louisiana USA Died November 23, 1958 in New Boston, Bowie County, Texas,
USA
> Who married Sam Patton Lawrence B Bet. 1868 - 1870 Georgia USA D. 1900
in
> unknown TEXAS. They married January 04, 1894 in Red River County Texas
USA.
>
> Their Son: Walter Andrew Lawrence B. May 18, 1897 in Red River County,
> Texas, USA Died July 08, 1985 in New Boston, Bowie County Texas, USA.
> married Lula Bertha Hawkins b. October 10, 1900 in Simms, Bowie County,
> Texas, USA Died 12.26.1987 in New Boston, Bowie County Texas. They
married
> November 17, 1918 In Bowie County Texas USA
>
> Thier son: J. S. Lawrence - Mary Lois Abney
>
> Me Allen W. Lawrence - Emily Rose Perry
>
> Our Daughter Karen Renee` Lawrence
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Anyone out there researching the family of Dr. Amos E. Barton, born
11/6/1875 in PA, died St. Petersburg, Fla 4/25/1956. Graduated from
Bucknell University and lived most of his life in NY City then moved to
Fla.
His family is also related to the Campbells, Hands, Northrups, Halls, &
Blackwells.
Any information is appreciated. Thank you, Gwen
I have Laura Campbell born 1865 from PA Allegheny & Westmoreland Co.
I think she might have been marrried to a man whose last name is MORAN
there was 3 children Katherine, Walter, Charley 1886 - 1890
Laura then marry's Lewis Shondelmyer about 1890
Sherry
Thank-you. I hope many people will benefit from them going forward.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Diarmid Campbell" <diarmid(a)diarmid.fsnet.co.uk>
To: <CAMPBELL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: CAMPBELL Marriages from OPRs
> Patricia,
>
> Thank you for putting all those Ayrshire Campbell records which you have
> copied from the OPR on line for us. A large work and generous of you.
>
> Diarmid
>
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Yes, even though I don't have our Campbell's out of America yet... I know
how much went into putting that information online.
Thanks for the hard work
Margie Campbell
Lodi, CA USA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diarmid Campbell [mailto:diarmid@diarmid.fsnet.co.uk]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 1:36 AM
> To: CAMPBELL-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: CAMPBELL Marriages from OPRs
>
>
> Patricia,
>
> Thank you for putting all those Ayrshire Campbell records which you have
> copied from the OPR on line for us. A large work and generous of you.
>
> Diarmid
>
Judy,
The British military records are held at the Public Records Office (PRO for
short) at Kew in the west of London.
I just called them and found that they cannot help directly but they do have
a web site.
The web site is at:
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
The PRO cannot do research themselves but there are people listed on their
site whom you can employ to research for you in any of the BMD or Military
records.
There is also the outfit (whom I have used and their costs are reasonable),
called www.britishancestors.co.uk who advertise on rootsweb.
Please let me know how you get on.
Diarmid
----- Original Message -----
From: "HOOVER FAMILY" <HOOVER(a)NETVA.COM>
To: <CAMPBELL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: Colin Campbell & Gen. Wm. C.
> Diarmid and others willing to look,
> In theory - from what these people believed - Colin was the brother of
> General William of Kings Mountain and brother-in-law of Patrick Henry.
But
> Daddy had done a rather in depth study at one time of General Campbell for
> the local historical society. He could find no reference, at all, of the
> connection.
> My first question to you and others familiar with the British military
> is how would I go about finding out if Colin Campbell was a commissioned
> officer in the British Army? What information would be included there? Are
> those records even still available?
> I have tried, unsuccessfully on three different occasions, to contact
> Mr. Norfleet. He either doesn't read e-mails or, giving him the benefit
of
> the doubt, he is simply too busy to answer. At least they don't bounce
back
> to me.
> In looking at old maps at the Augusta County, Virginia web-site I did
> find that when Colin mustered out of the Army at Fort Pitt that if he
moved
> at any point southward he was in Augusta County and that by 1791 most of
> that area had beome Monongalia and York counties and Augusta had shrunk.
> For me, at least, that becomes important because of Archibald's
marriage
> in 1807 to the daughter of Henry and Catherine Wren Hawk's daughter.
Henry
> Hawk owned property in Monongalia and Hampshire counties which were part
of
> Augusta County until 1791.
> I did a double check of Colin in Russell County, VA. I knew I had
seen
> him there somewhere and it is on the 1790 Russell County, Va Personal
> Property Tax List (Russell County, VAgenweb) in the Lower district. If
> anyone knows the difference between the upper and lower districts I would
> appreciate knowing.
> At Augusta County, VAgenweb I also found the 1790 tax list images of
> Augusta County and there is listed a Collen Campbell with 1 adult male and
3
> horses. And in 1800 in Augusta County a Collins Campbell with 1 adult
male,
> 2 horses and it appears 24 animals. So I believe I am in the right
general
> area. Yet, still lost as I haven't had time to put it into any kind of
> order (I wish Dad was still here - he was good at this!!).
> If Beth is still reading here at the Campbell list, she had done some
> work with the Russell and Lee County Campbell's maybe she can shed some
> light, also.
> If anyone has an opinion about where to check next or has any advice
to
> offer, please-- feel free and help!.
>
> Judy in Virginia, USA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Diarmid Campbell" <diarmid(a)diarmid.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: <CAMPBELL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 5:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Colin Campbell & Gen. Wm. C.
>
>
> > Judy,
> >
> > I don't know whether your General William is in your mind the one known
as
> > "of King's Mountain". If so I would try corresponding with Phil
Norfleet
> > who has the web site on the General's cousins and see what he suggests.
> > Type in "Campbells in southwest Virginia" and see if he comes up.
> >
> > Diarmid
> >
> >
> > >
> > > "Colin Campbell, born in Scotland January 27, 1749, came to
America
> as
> > a commissioned officer in the British Army in 1775. In finding his
> brother,
> > General William Campbell, an enthusiastic American patriot, and
realizing
> > the cause for which the colonials were fighting, he was easily persuaded
> to
> > leave the British Army and join the Continentals.
> > > "Colin Campbell married in Scotland, January 17, 1773, Jean
McPherson
> > (born July 29, 1752), and had one son, Archibald.
> > > "Soon after the Revolutionary War was over, Mrs. Campbell and her
> son
> > came to America, and settled with Major Campbell near Aginbdon, where
Mrs.
> > Campbell died August 26, 1830. major Campbell died in 1834 and was
buried
> 3 and 1/2 miles from Abingdon, VA in what is called Hawk's Field....."
>
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Catherine Campbell,b.1823-
Rutherford County,NC-USA
married John Albert Street,b.1815-child Mary,b.1840 married Elias Fry of Carter County,TN.
Seeking Catherine's parents and any other information.
Dorothy Pagano
dgpagano(a)earthlink.net
Laura Campbell born May 1856
married Lewis Shondelmyer abt 1890
Laura I believe had a brother Thomas and a sister Hannah
the family was from the Alleghency Co, area
Sherry
CAMPBELL, James and Jean McCOMB, 24 July 1801, Barr by Girvan
CAMPBELL, James and Margaret JAMISON, 5 Nov 1803, Loudoun
CAMPBELL, James and Janet BAIRD, 9 Dec 1803, Muirkirk
CAMPBELL, James and Sarah FARLEN, 7 Jan 1804, St. Quivox & Newton
CAMPBELL, James and Jean GAIRDNER, 15 June 1804, Dalrymple
CAMPBELL, James and Margaret McMURTRIE, 26 Nov 1805, Kirkoswald
********************
That is the end of the OPRs that I have copied for Campbells.
Judy,
I don't know whether your General William is in your mind the one known as
"of King's Mountain". If so I would try corresponding with Phil Norfleet
who has the web site on the General's cousins and see what he suggests.
Type in "Campbells in southwest Virginia" and see if he comes up.
Diarmid
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From: "HOOVER FAMILY" <HOOVER(a)NETVA.COM>
To: <CAMPBELL-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 5:12 PM
Subject: Colin Campbell
> Diarmid (and hopefully others),
> I have been going through Daddy's records periodically since he passed
away trying to organize what little bit he hadn't and today got into the
Hoover/Campbell's again.
> I found correspondence to Daddy from a P.H. Ropp, Hampden-Sidney, Va.
I don't know when it was written but at the top it says "Note from P.H.
Ropp, Hampden-Sidney, VA: (reply from Gene's letter to him on September 7,
1964)" and it says:
>
> "Colin Campbell, born in Scotland January 27, 1749, came to America as
a commissioned officer in the British Army in 1775. In finding his brother,
General William Campbell, an enthusiastic American patriot, and realizing
the cause for which the colonials were fighting, he was easily persuaded to
leave the British Army and join the Continentals.
> "Colin Campbell married in Scotland, January 17, 1773, Jean McPherson
(born July 29, 1752), and had one son, Archibald.
> "Soon after the Revolutionary War was over, Mrs. Campbell and her son
came to America, and settled with Major Campbell near Aginbdon, where Mrs.
Campbell died August 26, 1830. major Campbell died in 1834 and was buried
in......"
>
> I have a couple of questions regarding things I don't know how to go
about finding. The theory that Colin was General William's brother long
been believed. To this point, to my knowledge, it has never been proven and
to many can't be so.
> How do I find information regarding Colin Campbell being commissioned
in the British Army? Is there any way to verify the dates for marriages and
births? I have admitted before that unfortunately I don't know the first
thing about looking up or asking question there.
>
> What I do know about Colin, in a letter from the War Department, The
Adjutant General's Office, Washington, dated August 1, 1941 tells me that
"Colin Campbell served in the Revolutionary war as a private in a company
designated at various times as Captain David Laird's and Captain Nathan
Lamma's Company, 1oth Virginia Regiment commanded successively by Colonel
Edward Stevens, Major Samuel Hawes, Colonel John Green and Colonel William
Russell (2nd husband of Elizabeth Henry Campbell - General William
Campbell's widow). He enlisted on December 15, 1776 and in September 1778
the rigiment was designated as the 6yh Virginia Regiment, and his name is
last borne on the roll for the month of November, 1778."
> The main reason I included the last paragraph is because it firmly
(and hopefully accurately) records the dates when Colin was in America.
>
> I will appreciate any help and advice from anyone who is willing to offer.
>
> Judy in Virginia
>
>
>
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Hi List,
Recently a friend was visiting in my home and he noticed my Clan Campbell
Journal and he state that the Campbells nearly wiped out the Munn Family.
Is there any facts to this thought! He is a Munn very headstrong (unlike me
(GRIN)) and insists that this is true.
Allen Lawrence
My line
Charles C. Campbell b. about 1772 in North Carolina, USA died Abt. January
16, 1839 in Houston Co., Republic of TX married to Selah Carter b.1795 in
Mississippi, USA d.January 23, 1839 in Houston Co., Republic of TX (indian
raid) they married September 01, 1813 in Natchez, Adams Co., MS
Their Son: Elon A. Campbell b Bet. 1809 - 1815 in Meadville, Franklin Co.,
MS died Unknown in LA? USA
married Mary Strickland b June 1830 died September 01, 1913 in New Boston,
Bowie County Texas USA
Their Daughter Mary Idella Campbell b Feb 13,1871 in Desoto Parish,
Louisiana USA Died November 23, 1958 in New Boston, Bowie County, Texas, USA
Who married Sam Patton Lawrence B Bet. 1868 - 1870 Georgia USA D. 1900 in
unknown TEXAS. They married January 04, 1894 in Red River County Texas USA.
Their Son: Walter Andrew Lawrence B. May 18, 1897 in Red River County,
Texas, USA Died July 08, 1985 in New Boston, Bowie County Texas, USA.
married Lula Bertha Hawkins b. October 10, 1900 in Simms, Bowie County,
Texas, USA Died 12.26.1987 in New Boston, Bowie County Texas. They married
November 17, 1918 In Bowie County Texas USA
Thier son: J. S. Lawrence - Mary Lois Abney
Me Allen W. Lawrence - Emily Rose Perry
Our Daughter Karen Renee` Lawrence
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CAMPBELL, James and Margaret KAY, 19 June 1788, Auchinleck
CAMPBELL, James and Jane STWART, 12 Feb 1790, Muirkirk
CAMPBELL, James and Jean HOOD, 18 June 1790, Ochiltree
CAMPBELL, James and Jean BUCHANAN, 21 July 1792, Ayr
CAMPBELL, James and Sarah DICKIE, 21 Dec 1792, Ochiltree
CAMPBELL, James and Agnes RITCHIE, 15 Dec 1793, Beith
CAMPBELL, James and Elizabeth RAMSAY, 9 Mar 1796, Barr by Girvan
CAMPBELL, James and Jean BLACK, 23 Nov 1799, Loudoun
CAMPBELL, James and Mary McKEG, 2 June 1800, Tarbolton
CAMPBELL, James and May FERGUSON, 20 Feb 1801, Tarbolton
hi list
do these names ring a bell with anyone?
joseph campbell born abt 1840 married nancy galbraith ?
children were <all born londonderry ,coleraine>
james 1865
jane 1870
martha 1879
hannah 1867
sarah 1884
cathrine 1872
best wishes
julie