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I am looking for information on a William & Smithie Campbell. They had =
children by the name of
Salathiel, Louisa, Talitha, James and Isaiah. They lived in Tenn. & =
Arkansas. I would like to share
information with anyone who is also researching this family. Thanks! =
Cathy
Theresa,
Yes, indeedy, it was quite common for couples to have children out of
wedlock back then. In addition to the obvious reasons that have always
been, there was an ancient Highland custom called "handfasting" that I
know was common as late as early to mid-1700's, and may have existed
even later. Handfasting was basically a trial marriage lasting for a
year and a day; at the end of that time the couple could either
formalize the marriage in church or go their separate ways and dissolve
the union. No stigma attached to either party and any child born during
the time of the handfast was considered legitimate. I suspect that,
over the years, the custom became somewhat corrupted, and folks
interpreted it a little loosely; eventually, this resulted in an
attitude towards having illegitimate children that was somewhat more
casual than it is even today - folks like Mick Jagger and his ilk
notwithstanding. So I would tend to agree with your mother's
assessment.
My source for the above is a book by Norman H. MacDonald entitled, "The
Clan Ranald of Knoydart and Glengarry." My apologies to all you good
Campbell folk for utilizing such a source, but it's a well-written and
pretty even-handed book by an informed historian. Besides, I'm a
MacDonald, too!
Regards,
Durward and Alice Campbell McDonell
-----Original Message-----
From: theresa(a)vengrowth.com <theresa(a)vengrowth.com>
To: campbell-l(a)genealogy.org <campbell-l(a)genealogy.org>
Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 1:53 PM
Subject: Intro and quest
>Hi!
>
>I just signed up to this list yesterday. My name is Theresa Gard and I
live
>in Toronto, Canada. In doing my Gard family genealogy, I of course
moved
>into Elliott (ggrandmother) and from there to Campbell.
>
>John Campbell, my gggggrandfather, was born May 15th 1785 and married
>Catherine Sinclair Jan. 29th 1807 in Islay (Oa Parish). But here is my
>quest...on my copy of the tree for this part of my family, John &
Catherine
>are recorded as having two daughters, possible twins, in....1805! I've
been
>trying to find proof of John having had a first marriage, but no luck
so
>far. My mother just laughs at me and says that the girls were born out
of
>wedlock! But I personally cannot conceive of Catherine bearing two
girls
>and not marrying the father for a good 2 years!! Maybe nowadays, but
in
>1805-07?
>
>Any help on solving this mystery? Where should I go, Scotland doesn't
seem
>to have any searchable databases on the net that I can find.
>
>Theresa
>
>If I want to hear the pitter patter of little feet, I'll put shoes on
my
>cats.
>
Good luck.
Hey, since this message, I think, gets posted to all, anyone know out there
of a database to which all these bits and pieces of everyone's information
can be posted?
Seems to me that such a database would allow for all sorts of connections
not otherwise possible.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Leonard Campbell <soup(a)cyberportal.net>
To: Campell List Rootsweb <CAMPBELL-L(a)rootsweb.com>; Campbell Gen Org
<Campbell-L(a)genealogy.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 2:07 PM
Subject: Laura Anne Campbell Sterling, MA 1817
> Hi,
>
> I looking for anscestors and descendents of Laura Ann Campbell, B 29 Oct
> 1817 in Sterling, MA, moved to Lunenburg with her parents, Phineas
> Campbell (C1793-1833) and Laura Brown (1797-1871).
>
> Laura married Thomas Maque (1815-1899) in 1842, and they had children
> Mary, Grace, Clara and Estelle.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Len
>
>
Hi,
I looking for anscestors and descendents of Laura Ann Campbell, B 29 Oct
1817 in Sterling, MA, moved to Lunenburg with her parents, Phineas
Campbell (C1793-1833) and Laura Brown (1797-1871).
Laura married Thomas Maque (1815-1899) in 1842, and they had children
Mary, Grace, Clara and Estelle.
Thanks,
Len
My apologies to those who sent me responses last week, my server went down.
I received some message but I am posting again in hopes that those who tried
to respond and got an "undeliverable" message, will try again. Thanks for
your understanding!!!
I a looking for methods to research my Campbell roots, I was given up for
adoption 27 years ago and a month ago I met my parents for the very first
time!!! They are Campbells from Ontario, they originally came from
Newfoundland (Campbells Creek, Stephenville and Cornerbrook) and Nova Scotia
(Cape Breton was where they believe that our ancestors originally landed
from the "old country")
I will post my family tree in hopes of making a connection when more
information becomes available to me.
Any help or words of encouragement are appreciated!!!
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I am looking for information on William & Smithie Campbell. They had
children by the name of
James, Salathiel, Louisa, Talitha and Isaiah. I would like to share
info. Thanks!
anks!
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Hi! My name is Lorna Stout and I am looking for information about the ancestors of Elias Minter Campbell. He is from West Virginia and was married to Eliza Rebecca Peters. I would really appreciate any information that you may have. THANKS!
Hi! My name is Lorna Stout and I am looking for any information on the parents and ancestors of Elias Minter Campbell. I know all about his marriage and his descendents through my line. He was married to Eliza Rebecca Peters. Please send me any information you have. THANKS!
Hi!
I just signed up to this list yesterday. My name is Theresa Gard and I live
in Toronto, Canada. In doing my Gard family genealogy, I of course moved
into Elliott (ggrandmother) and from there to Campbell.
John Campbell, my gggggrandfather, was born May 15th 1785 and married
Catherine Sinclair Jan. 29th 1807 in Islay (Oa Parish). But here is my
quest...on my copy of the tree for this part of my family, John & Catherine
are recorded as having two daughters, possible twins, in....1805! I've been
trying to find proof of John having had a first marriage, but no luck so
far. My mother just laughs at me and says that the girls were born out of
wedlock! But I personally cannot conceive of Catherine bearing two girls
and not marrying the father for a good 2 years!! Maybe nowadays, but in
1805-07?
Any help on solving this mystery? Where should I go, Scotland doesn't seem
to have any searchable databases on the net that I can find.
Theresa
If I want to hear the pitter patter of little feet, I'll put shoes on my
cats.
To all
I had to back-track to find it but I finally did and you know what,
anything this inspiring has a place on any mailing list or media for
that matter. Thank you to the sender for reminding us that freedom does
not come easy, the sad thing is that we have lost half of what they
fought for and most of us do not even know it. Thanks again Ben. I hope
this doesn't disgruntle some of you tooo much.
sevy(a)netwrx.net wrote:
>
> Thank you for your reminder that we should all be grateful for what others
> have given to us, no matter what our current or past country of origin.
>
> >Resent-Date: 4 Jul 1999 14:23:36 -0000
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> >Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 10:22:25 -0400
> >From: benklaene <BenKlaene(a)compuserve.com>
> >Subject: Happy 4th of July!
> >Sender: benklaene <BenKlaene(a)compuserve.com>
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> >Content-Disposition: inline
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> >X-Loop: campbell-l(a)genealogy.org
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> >
> >Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the
> >Declaration of Independence?
> > * * * * * * * * * *
> >* *
> >Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before
> >they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their
> >sons serving in the Revolutionary Army, another had two sons captured.
> >
> >Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the
> >Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their
> >fortunes, and their sacred honor. What kind of men were they?
> >
> >.Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were
> >farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, of faith and well
> >educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full
> >well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.
> >
> >.Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships
> >swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties
> >to pay his debts, and died in rags.
> >
> >Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his
> >family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his
> >family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and
> >poverty was his reward.
> >
> >.Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer,Walton,
> >Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton. .Francis Lewis had his home
> >and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed him.
> >
> >At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British
> >General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He
> >quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was
> >destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.
> >
> >John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13
> >children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to
> >waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home
> >to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died
> >from exhaustion and a broken heart. Norris and Livingston suffered similar
> >fates.
> >
> >Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were
> >not wild eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means
> >and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing
> >tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this
> >declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of God, we mutually
> >pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."
> >
> >They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books
> >never told you a lot of what happened in the Revolutionary War. We didn't
> >just fight the British. We were British subjects at that time and we
> >fought our own government! Some of us take these liberties so much for
> >granted...
> >
> >We shouldn't.
> >
> >So, take a couple of minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and
> >silently thank God for these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price
> >they paid..............
> >
> >And also wonder where the men of HONOR are today.
> >
> >
> >
Thanks for distributing yr letter: My family was in Moore Co. NC for most
of their generations. You probably know that the Moore Co. Court House
burned down some while ago, leaving us as genealogical orphans. Could you
furnish us with the title of the "book about the history of Moore Co, NC",
that we could search for a copy? Most gratified for any information.
My ggf was William Raleigh Campbell, married Narcisse Thompson (of Vass?).
Their (only?) son my gf was John R. Campbell, married Mary Jane Sullivan.
Their eldest son my father was John Merrill Campbell, born 13 May 1893 near
Sanford NC. He told me he had heard in the family that our Campbells were
on the "wrong side" of the American Revolution, because of the oath they'd
had to take to get deportation and avoid hanging.
John M. Campbell (jr)
----- Original Message -----
From: <Dwgraves01(a)aol.com>
To: <AmAWitty1(a)aol.com>; <Campbell-L(a)genealogy.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 11:49 PM
Subject: Campbell's of Moore Co, NC
> Hey Sue Huff,>>>>>>>>>> I believe if you check records of Cumberland
and Moore Cos of NC you might be able to find a connection. I read a book
about the history of Moore Co, NC. It had a lot of information on the
Campbell family. they probably moved because after the war the patriots took
all of the Tories to court and took all of their lands except their
homesteads.>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hi Everybody!!
I am trying to connect with any descedents of David and Anna A. CAMPBELL -
who lived in Vineland (420 Almond St ) in the early 1900's. The children were:
Willis Campbell b 1881
David Campbell b 1885
Florence Campbell b 1886
Emma Campbell b 1889
Walter Campbell b 1891
Reba Campbell b 1895
Elmer Campbell b 1897
MY gggreandmother Elizabeth Campbell TROUT was the sister of David and I am
interested in any information anyone may have on the family
Thanks
ED Karn
My wheel is off and I am in the ditch--help! I am looking for parents or
siblings of Richard Campbell b. 1778 in NC. A son John was born to him in
1816 in NC. I believe he was in Orange County in 1810 (I found only three
Richard Campbells in NC in 1810--one in Pitt Co. and he was too old and two
in Orange) and I know he arrived in Pickens Co. AL about 1821. His three
sons are: John, Jesse Archie, and Richard M. I have found a marriage to a
Hannah Carter in 1809 in Orange Co--this could be Richard's first wife. He
took a second wife Ruth Davis and a step-son William Davis prior to moving
to Carroll Co. MS where he left a will in 1844. Any help will be
appreciated.
Jean Campbell
jerryc(a)ebicom.net
In the continuing search for the ancestry of my 4th great grandfather,
William Campbell, I am posting the names of his siblings in the hope that
the family will be recognized by another researcher. Alexander Campbell was
the father of William and these others: Alexander, Thomas, James, Florence,
and Jennie.
William Campbell was born in Virginia in 1782, but I do not have the birth
places or dates of the siblings.
Any connections?
Thanks,
Suzanne Russell
auntsue(a)twlakes.net
Hey Sue Huff,
I response to your e-mail to the Campbell List. I am only on this list
for a friend but I read every message. I do not know who your ancestor was,
but I have a 7th ggrandfather James MUSE, Jr., fought for the Tories in the
Revolutionary War there was a Major or General (not sure) that was his
commander. I believe his name was the one listed below:
Donald McAlpin Campbell.
I believe if you check records of Cumberland and Moore Cos of NC you
might be able to find a connection. I read a book about the history of Moore
Co, NC. It had a lot of information on the Campbell family. they probably
moved because after the war the patriots took all of the Tories to court and
took all of their lands except their homesteads.
Another history lesson . . . The American term "Redneck" started in this
area most people think it means a hard working white Southern farmer who's
neck got sunburned while working in the fields. Well . . . that's not exactly
true. It started in Scotland when the English came back in and reconquered
our Scottish ancestors. The defeated Scots were made to sign a blood oath of
their name stating that they nor their descendants would ever take up arms
against the English Throne again. The term "Redneck" was given to them
because they all had their throats cut to get the blood for the oath and put
a white rag over their cuts. The white rags turned red and thus "Rednecks."
Sorry about going on but I thought if these are your ancestors you would
like to know. I was proud to find out.
C YA, :>)
Dwgraves01(a)aol.com
Donnie Graves
I am looking for the parents of Roger Campbell abt 1884 married to Anna G.
Casey. They were from Pennsylvania, the Scaranton/Archibald area.
MJinNJ(a)AOL.com
Am seeking additional information on Alexander or Elexander CAMPBELL who
married Anna STEWART and had (at least) 3 children: William, Henrietta, and
Catharine (b. 1829). Acc. to Catharine's death certificate, Elexander (odd
spelling) and Anna were both born in Scotland while Catharine and her
siblings were born in Delaware Co., NY. They all lived in Chemung Co., NY, by
1850. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I am looking for any information on CHARLES COLUMBUS CAMPBELL, b. 1810 in
Sumpter Co., South Carolina He married MARY LOUISA BOWEN in 1830 Jackson
Co., Mississippi and had issue: ALEXANDER BOWEN, b 1860; CHARLES COLUMBUS,
b. 1862; RICHARD BARRETT, b. 1864; JOSEPH CASEY, b 1866; WILLIE EUGENE, B.
1867; HERBERT HUGH, b. 1870; MARY LOU, b. 1871; HARDY, b. 1873; STEPHEN
ROBERT, b. 1875; GADI LUM, b. 1878; KATIE WEEKS, b. 1880; EMMIE GOZA, b.
1881; and ROSIE ETTA, b. 1883