Betty:
Thanks for your "two cents".....It was worth a million!! We should all take
pride in those ancestors...Don't seem to be too many black sheep!!!
Marylyn
-----Original Message-----
From: Betty Phillips <bphillips542(a)earthlink.net>
To: CAMPBELL-PA-NELSON-L(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 21:16:56 -0400
Subject: Re: [CaPaNe] How Greene Was Our Valley?
OK...I have to chime in now. Regarding the 'martyrdom' issue and 'Campbell
Cousin Clara Mary Butler (1910-1956).
Cousin 'Clara' Mary Butler was a 1st Cousin to my mother, Rose E. Campbell Kelim
Davis (1910-1995), and we knew her as Mary Butler. Mary Butler was the dau. of Martha
Campbell Butler (as you mentioned before); and my mother, Rose Campbell Kelim Davis, was
the dau. of Martha Campbell Butler's brother, Mark C. Campbell. Mary and Rose were
both born in 1910, and were such good friends as well as 1st Cousins.
It is true that 'Clara' Mary Butler was a missionary in Nicaragua, and that she
died there, but I doubt she would have ever termed herself as a martyr. As it was, she
contracted cancer (I never asked what type) while she was living and ministering in
Nicaragua. Her Aunt Myra (maiden sister of Martha Campbell Butler and Mark C. Campbell,
and my GRAND [she liked to be called GRAND Aunt, not Great Aunt] Aunt Myra) went down to
Nicaragua to bring Mary Butler back home so the family could take care of her. But Mary
sent Aunt Myra back home alone, saying she preferred to stay with "her people"
in Nicaragua, and that they would take good care of her. So that is where she died of
disease, and where she was buried. End of story. Hope this is of some interest.
I'll forward this to my sister, Delores Kelim Davis Power, to see if she has anything
to add to this story.
Betty Davis Phillips
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Thompson"
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To: <CAMPBELL-PA-NELSON-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:48 AM
Subject: [CaPaNe] How Greene Was Our Valley?
With apologies to author Richard Llewellyn and director John Ford of
"How > Green Was My Valley" fame.
This is a continuation of the Vernon Greene saga. He wasn't a major > factor in
Tioga Co. history because of the time he spent living > elsewhere -- Susquehanna Co.,
PA;, Schuyler Co., NY; and Houghton Co., > MI -- but he spent his later years in
Elkland and his remains remain > there.
We previously mentioned that Vernon 1st married Emily Campbell, dau. of > James and
Mary Blackwell Campbell, son of Joseph and Mary Harper Campbell. > Also that after
Emily's death he married Mary Kemp (1834 - 1912), a dau. > of John A. Kemp (1797/98
- 1875) & Phoebe Cook (1788 - 1880). For today > I'll ignore Mary Kemp's
siblings and talk about her two children: > Frederick Kemp Greene and Anna Greene.
Anna was the younger of the two. According to her tombstone she was born > in 1873.
According to the 1880 census of Nelson Twp., she was born in MN, > so we may need to
add another state to Vernon's list of residences. She > died in 1928. In 1893 in
Addison, NY, she m. Fred D. Signor, b. 1869 in > Ithaca, Tompkins Co., NY, d. 1898 in
Elkland, PA. Fred was a son of David > A. Signor (1827/28 - ?) and Sara DeBelle
(1832/33 - ?). Fred and his > relatives were involved in several hotels in Elkland and
Knoxville. Fred > and Anna had only one child, Lawrence K. Signor, b. 1894. Fred, Anna
and > Lawrence came to many Campbell Reunions, but unfortunately Lawrence died > in
1906, ending that line.
Frederick Kemp Greene was born 1870 in NYS (another location for Vernon?) > and died
1936 in Yonkers, Westchester Co., NY. His wife, Margaret Ryan, > b. 1874 in NYS, d.
1929 in Yonkers. Both Frederick and Margaret are > buried in St. Joseph's Cem.,
Yonkers. They had 3 children and came for > many years from Yonkers to the Campbell
Reunions.
So, even if some of our genealogist readers don't considered these > Greene's
to be part of our family, both they and the folks running the > Reunions then
considered them part of the family.
Fred and Margaret's eldest child was Frederick Vernon Greene, b. 1900, in > NY, d.
1955 in DC, m. Florence Camingo, b. 1907 in NY, d. 1980. FVG was > called Vernon. He is
buried in Mt. Hope Co., Elmsford, Westchester Co., > NY, a site I bicycle commuted past
for more that a year when the weather > was good, and drove past when the weather
wasn't good. But as so often > happens, I didn't find out till after I was
through working in that area. > Florence is buried in Castleton Cem.,
Castleton-on-the-Hudson. "Vernon" > and Florence had two children. I've
corresponded with their daughter, > Audrey O'Hare, who is living and has a number
of descendants. Her > brother, Robert Austin Greene, aka Ellis Greene, was a missionary
for the > Order of the Holy Cross, and died in Uganda in 1983 during very turbulent
> times that culminated in the 1895 deposition of mad ruler Idi Amine by > former
dictator, Milton Obote.
But memory played a trick on me. In my previous message about Emily > Campbell and
Vernon Greene, I used the work 'martyrs' in talking about > their descendants.
At the time, I was thinking of Brother Greene, for > one. But I incorrectly was
thinking also of Campbell Cousin Clara Mary > Butler (1910 - 1956), who died while a
missionary in Managua, Nicaragua. > She, was a dau. of Coral Milton Butler (1876 -
1940) & Martha Eunice > Campbell )1878 - 1965), dau. of Eunice Roby Howland (1852 -
1923) & > Charles Blackwell Campbell (1857 - 1912), son of Emily >
Sellen/Sellon/Selling (1830 - 1888) & Robert Campbell (1827 - 1898) - > brother of
Emily CAMPBELL Greene. So there was an "association" between > Clara and
Vernon Greene, but no "blood" relationship between Clara and > Brother
Greene. Furthermore, I'm not certain about the circumstances of > either
missionary's death. Killings on a massive scale were occurring in > Uganda then.
And there was unrest in Nicaragua culminating!
in the > assassination of its
dictator, General Anastasio Somoza Garcia later that > year. 'Christian martyr'
was originally used for those in the Roman > Empire who chose death rather than
renounce their faith. But an > encyclopedia entry for
'Martyrdom today' says -- "The term has since been used_
metaphorically > <
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphor>_ for people killed in a
historical > <
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History> struggle for some cause, or
those > whose deaths served to galvanize a particular movement." Whatever the >
formal Cause of Death, and regardless of what term we choose to apply, > Clara Butler
and Brother Greene apparently gave their lives in service to > their faith.
"Vernon" and Florence' middle child, Robert Edward Greene, never married.
> He was born 1902 in NY and d. 1931 in NY.
"Vernon" and Florence' youngest child, Marguite Juanita "Bunny"
Greene, > was b. 1912 in NY, d. there 1981. She married George Pouria (1911 - >
1969). They have a number of living descendants.
Not much suspense left the end of this episode of the serial. John Ford > could have
done it better. Richard Llewellyn's book about a coal mining > community in Wales
may not have been upbeat (and may have things in common > with some PA coal mining
towns). But for those of us interested in our > Celtic roots (and some of us have Welsh
ancestors as well as Campbell) you > may find the following as good news. Welsh is the
only "minority > language" in Europe that's increasing in use. Modestly,
but increasing. > Many atribute that to the BBC having launched a radio and a TV
station > that broadcast in Welsh. As most of you know, Welsh is a Gaelic language.
> Gaelic is hanging on in Scotland and Ireland, but loosing ground rapidly > in
France and Spain. I probably could find some upbeat, snappy Welsh > phrase via the
Internet to end on, but doubt we have many readers that > understand it. Those of you
who have had the good fortune to travel to > Scotland will remember the dua!
l
signage there. You'll see a sign in > Gaelic with 30 or more letters for a place
name. And beside it a version > in English with 8 or 10 letters for the place name. I
always wondered "Is > that a translation, or just two different names for the same
place?"
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