Rick,
There has been speculation that the traitor accusation came
about as bad blood between the children of Thomas Camp's
first wife and those of his second wife, Margaret Carney
who was not much older than the first group of siblings
and was of Irish heritage. Their home in Rutherford
County, NC was reportedly burned by the British for
aiding the patriots. The first group apparently were
less zealot than the second group and even though
John and others of the first group served the patriot
cause he was labeled a traitor by one or more of his
half-siblings. In the heat of the aftermath of the RW
some of his land holdings were seized, although were
reportedly reinstated. I, too, have other RW ancestors to
use, should I desire to join the DAR, I'd just like to know
the truth, regardless of what it is....
Carole
On Mar 14, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Larry and Elaine Blackman wrote:
Supposedly, he would have joined the British, if even as a spy or
providing
something for them.
You have to also realize that people were turned in just so that other
people could get their property, as happens in any war, whether here,
Europe, or Africa.
I don't believe all the people who he was involved with would have
remained
friends with him, either, and also, since there is a marker for him
from the
DAR, I think something else is going on. What, nobody has a clue.
It will probably never be solved and to me, it doesn't matter. I have
plenty of Rev. War ancestors if I should ever want to join the DAR,
including his son-in-law's father who was Col. Abel HILL.
Elaine Blackman
----- Original Message -----
From: "3x2389" <3x2389(a)bellsouth.net>
To: <camp(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: 03/14/2008 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [CAMP] Tarpley house, John Camp
> Thanks for clearing up the Tarpley info. It has been a few years
> since I
> read something about it.
>
> What was the traitor act that John committed? Was father Thos and the
> other
> brothers involved?
>
> I kinda feel for the traitors to the RW, a fine line there. These
> farmers,
> plantation owners, deeply religous felt a loyalty to mother
> England and
> quietly paid the taxes. They were isolated and wanted to be left
> alone and
> not bothered with rebellion. I am grateful to the rebellious ones
> however
> for our freedom and independence. I have 5 or 6 patriots in my line.
>
> I really should not make this observation as I am no expert of RW
> history.
> I
> wish I didn't sleep through so many history classes. I guess there
> were
> different levels of betrayal some forgiven and some not. I am hoping
> John's
> didn't cause death to innocent folks.
>
> I hope you get the info needed to clear the matter up. If someone
> can jump
> in there and assist Carole the rest of will be grateful to you.
>
> I will go back to sleep now
>
> Rick Perry
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carole Johnson" <ammcj(a)bellsouth.net>
> To: <camp(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 4:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [CAMP] Tarpley house, John Camp
>
>
>> Rick,
>> I wasn't aware of the Tarpley house in Jamestown,
>> but it makes sense. Was it one of our Tarpley's?
>>
>> About twenty years ago when I first became interested
>> in genealogy I went to Williamsburg to see the Tarpley
>> store. Something just seemed...off. I went over to the
>> library at William and Mary and found out that the benefactor
>> of the bell at the Bruton Parish Church died without marrying -
>> or legitimate children. His selfish brothers met the same fate
>> and their poor mother inherited the Tarpley store. . . which
>> means THAT James Tarpley wasn't ours, the line died
>> with them. Ours was happily producing heirs at Rappanock
>> (I know I butchered the spelling)
>> at the Old Farnham Parish where our Mary Tarpley was
>> baptized. I tried to tell the manager of Tarpley's store in
>> Williamsburg, but she wouldn't listen - SHE had a computer
>> print-out, don't 'cha know.
>>
>> I am not aware of a will online for John Camp. I have been trying
>> for sometime to find some concrete information about his RW
>> service and why he was labeled a traitor and land confiscated.
>> Others on this list have found evidence that he was exonerated,
>> but the records lost in a fire. It is pretty obvious that the
>> Sullivan
>> family were patriots through and through. I find it difficult to
>> believe that they would become friends enough with John et al
>> to found the church with them, if they weren't of similar ilk.
>>
>> I have become acquainted with a graduate student in Washington,
>> DC who will do look-ups at the National Archives. I would be
>> happy to pay her to research and hopefully exonerate Lt. John Camp,
>> if someone with experience would kindly point me in the right
>> direction.
>> Carole
>>
>>
>>
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