Hi Val,
I hope we can get everyone to give up the notion that Nicholas Camp married Sarah Eliot.
Nicholas did marry a Sarah (Unknown) prior to coming to New England. If we believe the age
of his son, Nicholas Jr., at death then that would mean that Nicholas Jr. was born in
England in 1625 which is several years prior to Nicholas landing in Boston on 16 Sep 1632.
(Other information states that Nicholas Jr. was born on board ship enroute to New
England.) As I recall from the research I did on the Eliots, Sarah was the only one for
several generations. Sarah and her husband died 1 year apart. Both are buried in the Eliot
Bury Ground in Roxbury.
There are many books that get all the Samuel Camps mixed up because there were 3 living in
Milford at the same time. Careful research does sort it out though.
It is sad that there are books with incorrect information in them. I have found many such
books, and the book you referenced for my mother also has wrong information in places.
Better information came later plus I used research done by others and that was a huge
mistake. All our databases get better each day because more information is put on the
internet.
Jim Ottmer
Genealogy is not fatal but it can be a grave disease.
ottmer(a)comcast.net
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From: VLMcCown(a)aol.com
To: camp(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:59:09 AM
Subject: Re: [CAMP] Wife of Nicholas Camp
Jim,
Thank you for the information on the Sarah Elliot that married William
Curtis. Aha! Yes, one of the troubles with names is that so many people
shared the same names...first names, and even given names. There were several
Nicholas Camp(e)s, Thomas Camp(e)s, etc. Probably more than one Sarah
Elliot, too. I have heard that the Camp, Jones, and Related Families book has
errors, but was unsure which "facts" were controversial. Seems like this
marriage of Nicholas Campe and Sarah Elliot is one of those challenged facts.
I also have her parents as Bennet Eliot and Lettice Agger. So this must
be the one that married william Curtis as evidenced by the other sources you
mention. Ok, back to square one on Nicholas Camp's wife. Would it be
possible that William Curtis died and she remarried one Nicholas Camp? Did
she die before her husband William Curtis?
I think you did a good job on the book you made for your mother, Florence
Camp. I enjoy it, even though your Camp line and mine veer off several
generations back.
The father I have for this particular Nicholas Camp is John Camp(e),
christened Feb 1566.I will have to look up that issue of the CT Nutmegger.
Thanks for the tip on that resource.
Val (Camp) McCown
In a message dated 3/22/2013 8:22:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
ottmer(a)comcast.net writes:
Hello Everyone,
Sarah Eliot was the daughter of Bennet and Lettice Eliot. Baptized at
Widford, Hertford, England on 13 Jan 1600 at St. John the Baptist parish. She
married William Curtis on 6 Aug 1618 in Nazeing.
Sarah, her husband, their four children and her brother, the Rev. John
Eliot, immigrated to Roxbury in 1631 also aboard the Lyon.
Admitted to Roxbury Church as member # 38 and is documented as "Sarah
Curtis, the wife of William Curits" Buried in Roxbury, MA.
The Curtis Genealogies and the Eliot genealogies have documented these
facts. In fact The Eliot genealogy was published in the last few years in
NEHGS Register; I don't recall the specific issue. So please stop using Sarah
Eliot as the wife of Nicholas Camp.
There is some confusion over the father of this Nicholas Camp. There were
at least three Nicholas Camps who were born and baptized within a few years
of each other in Nazeing, England. John D. Baldwin III wrote an excellent
discussion on this subject for the June 1997 (Volume 30, Number 1, page 63)
issue of "The Connecticut Nutmegger".
Jim Ottmer
Genealogy is not fatal but it can be a grave disease.
ottmer(a)comcast.net
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