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AIMJCam(a)aol.com wrote:
> Hey there everyone, this is Jodie Camidge daughter of Bruce and Diane
Camidge
> and grandaughter of Donald and Leatrice Camidge. Donald Camidge still lives
> in Upstate New York, Carthage to be exact. I was just wondering if any of
> the Camidges lived in or around Missouri, Oklahoma, or Arkansas?
Jodie,
While I haven't heard of any recent Camidge's from Missouri, There was a
Richard T. Camidge who died in Ashley Missouri in 1939. He was born on the
Antwerp road in the town of Wilna, NY in 1864. The records show that his
parents lived there; but there is no other record of them. I almost certain
(but cannot prove it yet) that he is in our family. What little I do have is
from his obituary in the Watertown Daily Times in 1939,
If I am right that would make him your 1st cousin, four times removed.
Mike Camidge
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Hey there everyone, this is Jodie Camidge daughter of Bruce and Diane Camidge
and grandaughter of Donald and Leatrice Camidge. Donald Camidge still lives
in Upstate New York, Carthage to be exact. I was just wondering if any of
the Camidges lived in or around Missouri, Oklahoma, or Arkansas?
Thanks,
Jodie Camidge
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:
<< Hi CAMIDGEs, CAMMIDGES
(and other variations of the name),
Where's everyone at?! If we're going to make a success out of this
list, we need more people to *participate*. I know there are at least nine
of us subscribed. Why don't each of you send an e-mail to CAMIDGE-L
...snip...>>
OOPS! I said send your e-mail to CAMIDGE-L but should have included
the *FULL* address to send your e-mail to the list - please send it to
CAMIDGE-L(a)rootsweb.com
Thanks ... sorry I forgot to include that minor detail! ;o)
Carolyn
Hi CAMIDGEs, CAMMIDGES
(and other variations of the name),
Where's everyone at?! If we're going to make a success out of this
list, we need more people to *participate*. I know there are at least nine
of us subscribed. Why don't each of you send an e-mail to CAMIDGE-L and very
briefly introduce yourself (you don't have to give out a lot of personal
information).
Perhaps you could include names of some of your deceased CAMIDGE
relatives and whatever history you know about them - where they came from,
what year and where they settled, etc. That way, those subscribed could see
if there is any connection between their CAMIDGE relatives and yours.
My brother-in-law Mike Camidge is also now subscribed and he may be
able to supply you with some interesting CAMIDGE information as he has done a
great deal of work researching the CAMIDGE name. I know we've heard from a
couple of CAMIDGEs already and it has been WONDERFUL to find so many other
CAMIDGEs online out there. Dianne, thank you so much for the interesting
material on the CAMIDGE surname that you have been so kind to share. I look
forward to seeing the rest of the information and to hearing about the
possible "VIKING" roots in the CAMIDGE ancestry.
I am asking, please, everyone share and have a part in these e-mail
discussions on the CAMIDGE surname - help make this list, "our" list a
success!
As to my CAMIDGE connection, I am married to Cliff CAMIDGE - who is
the son of Nellie and Leonard CAMIDGE - both now deceased. They were settled
in upstate New York. There is much more information I can share if any other
CAMIDGEs are interested. Let's hear from some of you! Share only what you
feel comfortable in sharing! ;o) .... Warmest regards... Carolyn Camidge
Diane Camidge <mayangeleyes(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ok, here it is - more info about Camidge family
> history.
>
> The family name Camidge is believed to be descended
I'm not sure how
> accurate this information is. But I think it gives us
> some info to pick from and research.
>
> Enjoy,
> Diane and Bruce Camidge
Diane,
Very interesting if we can find the actual sources to verify this.
While I don't put a lot of stock in these "packaged geneology" items, I agree
with you that it us some interesting places to check.
The earlies firm source that I have found is the Naturalization papers for
William & George Camidge, showing that they arrive in New York City on 28
October 1850 aboard the Sir Issac Newton out of Liverpool. Unfortunately, it
seems that passenge lists for that period were destroyed in a fire. Both
William and George arrived in the Wilna area about that time and there is also
one reference to a Thomas Camidge during the same period. Batismal records in
York, England show a Camidge family whose sons include a Thomas, William &
George would have been the correct age.
Therefore it seems highly likely that the three sons came over together.
What became of Thomas is a myster, although his son Richard T. ended up in
Missouri.
Further coincidence of batismal & birth records in the Liverpool area seem
to imply that we can trace back to a Leonard Camage (that spelling is
intended) born about 1733.
If any of us gets to England that line would be worth check for sources.
Thanks for the info and please keep it coming.
Mike Camidge
mike(a)camidge.org
Check out the CAMIDGE site at www.camidge.org. (A little hard to navigate; but
I am working on it.)
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Ok, here it is - more info about Camidge family
history.
The family name Camidge is believed to be descended
originally from the Norman race, frequently but
mistakenly assumed to be of French origin. They were
more accurately of Viking origin. The Vikings landed
in the Orkneys and Northern Scotland about the year
870 A.D., under their King, Stirgud the Stout.
Thorfinn Rollo, his descendant landed in northern
France about the year 940 A.D. The French King,
Charles the Simple, after Rollo laid siege to Paris,
finally condeded defeat and granted northern France to
Rollo. Rollo became the first Duke of Normandy, the
territory of the north men. Rollo married Charles'
daughter and became a convert to Christianity. Duke
William who invaded and defeated England in 1066, was
descended from the first Duke Rollo of Normandy.
Duke William took a census of most of England in 1086,
and recorded it in the Domesday Book. A family name
capable of being traced back to this manuscript, or to
Hastings, was a signal honour for most families during
the middle ages, and even to this day.
The surname Camidge emerged as a notable family name
in the county of Hertford where they were recorded as
a family of great antiquity seated at Coyte and
Roylade with manors and estates in that shire. They
were originally from Gamaches in Normandy and this
distinguished name appears on the Roll of Battell
Abbey honouring those Norman nobles who were present
at Hastings. Adam and Nicholl Gamage were two of the
earliest settlers along with Pain de Gamage and Rolph
de Gamage who all held manors in that county. By the
16th century Sir William Gamage had branched to Wales
and his successor, another Sir William intermarried
with the Cuthbertsons of Durham. Prominent amongst
the family at this time was Sir William Gamage of
Coyte.
The surname Camidge contributed much to local politics
and in the affairs of England or Scotland. During the
11th and 12th centuries many of these Norman families
moved north to Scotland. Later, in the 16th, 17th and
18th centuries England was ravaged by religious and
political conflict. The Monarchy, the Church and
parliament fought for supremacy. Religious elements
vied for control, the State Church, the Roman Church
and the Reform Church. All, in their time, made
demands on rich and poor alike. They broke the spirit
of men and many turned from religion, or
alternatively, renewed their faith, pursuing with
vigour and ferocity, the letter of the ecclesiastical
law. Many families were freely "encouraged" to
migrate to Ireland, or to the "colonies".
Nonbelievers or dissidents were banished, sometimes
even hanged.
I hope this wasn't too much at one time.
There is still more, I should be able to get the rest
in on the next email.
Like I said in the first email. I'm not sure how
accurate this information is. But I think it gives us
some info to pick from and research.
Enjoy,
Diane and Bruce Camidge
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ORIGINAL MESSAGE:
<< ...SNIP....I hope this makes for some interesting
reading. Like I said at the beginning, I'm not sure
how accurate this is, but it sure is fun.
Later guys,
Diane and Bruce >>
REPLY:
Diane and Bruce,
This is WONDERFUL!!! Keep it coming!.... Warm regards... Carolyn
and Cliff Camidge
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:
<< I will try very hard to find the information about the
"Viking" part of our heritage, ...snip...So, stay tuned for more info.
...snip... Bruce does remember going to school with Cliff. Man,
this is so cool, and 2 Melissa Camidges, wow. Who
knew! Later, Diane and Bruce >>
REPLY:
Hi Diane and Bruce!
Yes, this is pretty neat! I just got back into town (had to go help
my sister - she just had a baby girl - 9 lb 3 oz - OUCH!) and I am running
way behind on all of my e-mail! I hope that the list has been chatting back
and forth. I keep hoping that everyone else will start sharing their family
ancestry info as soon as they have time. It will make for some interesting
conversations about the CAMIDGE family history. Cliff and I both look
forward to the info on the VIKING part of the family history.
Will have to close for now... I have a TON of e-mails to sort
through!.... Warmest regards to you and to all the list.... Carolyn
Hey,
The only Cammidge's here are my dad, my uncle Goldie,
my sisters, brother, and my cousin. That's all I know
of anyway.
--- Cmcamidge(a)aol.com wrote:
> ORIGINAL MESSAGE:
> << From: obsessive_chick(a)yahoo.com (coty
> cammidge)
> .....SNIP....My dad, Bob Cammidge is 62. There
> aren't very
> many Cammidge's in Sarnia. There's us, My Uncle
> Goldie, my cousin gerry and his kids and I know
> there's a few more that I haven't really got the
> chance to get to know. I think it would be very
> interesting to get to know alot more about my
> family
> so I am subscribing....SNIP..... Coty Cammidge >>
>
> REPLY: Nice to meet you Coty and "welcome
> aboard!" My husband and I
> just recently visited a CAMIDGE relative on the NC
> coast and while there,
> Cliff looked in the phone book and called a CAMMIDGE
> - Keith Cammidge. We
> believe that we are most likely related to Keith in
> some way ... not sure of
> the connection yet ... and that the spellings of
> "CAMMIDGE" and "CAMIDGE" are
> simply variations of the surname. Thus far, Cliff's
> CAMIDGE relatives have
> been traced back to Yorkshire, ENGLAND. Where are
> most of your relatives
> from (such as your grandfather - great-grandfather,
> etc.), do you know?
> I am just so happy that this list is
> beginning to "blossom" and take
> "root" - no pun intended! ;o) Genealogy is a very
> fascinating hobby! ....
> Warmest regards as always... Carolyn and Cliff
> Camidge
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Hey,
My uncle Goldie also had bright red hair when he was
younger so I guess that's a viking trait also.
--- melissa camidge <m_camidge(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey you guys. My father,grandfather and sister have
> very big hands and are very big bone. So if that
> isn't a viking trait then I don't know what is.
> Melissa Camidge
>
> --- MDavidmc(a)aol.com wrote:
> > Hi All!!!
> >
> > My Dad for one had flaming red hair when he was
> > younger and since that is
> > a Viking trait (also he is big, big hands and
> feet,
> > also a trait) I for one
> > vote for Viking heritage!! LOL
> >
> > Marcia Camidge David
> >
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Ok all you Camidges out there. This is the info I
promised I would send. I don't know how accurate this
information is, but it may be information that could
be useful in tracing more of the Camidge family tree.
There's a lot of info so I will try to send out a
little bit each time.
The title of this document is:
"The Ancient History of the Distinguished Surname
**CAMIDGE**
The ancient chronicles of England reveal the early
records of the name Camidge as a Norman surname which
ranks as one of the oldest. The history of the name
is closely interwoven within the majestic tapestry as
an intrinsic part of the history of Britain.
In-depth research by skilled analysts into ancient
manuscripts such as the Domesday Book (compiled in
1086 by William the Conqueror), the Ragman Rolls, the
Wace poem, the Honour Roll of the Battle Abbey, The
Curia Regis, Pipe Rolls, the Falaise Roll, tax
records, baptismals, family genealogies, local parish
and church records, shows the first record of the name
Camidge was found in Hartford where they were seated
from very early times and were granted lands by Duke
William of Normandy, their liege Lord, for their
distinguished assistance at the Battle of Hastings in
1066 A.D.
Many alternate spellings were found in the archives
researched, typically linked to a common root, usually
one of the Norman nobles at the Battle of Hastings.
Although your name, Camidge, appeared in many
references, from time to time the surname included
Gammage, Gamage, Gamadge, Cammidge, (here ya go Coty),
Gammidge, Camidge, Cammish, Camish, Gassmish, and
these changes in spelling frequently occurred, even
between father and son. Scribes recorded and spelled
the name as it sounded. Typically a person would be
born with one spelling, married with another, and
buried with a headstone which showed another. All
three spellings related to the same person. Sometimes
preferences for different spekling variations either
resulted from a branch preference, religious
affiliation, or sometimes nationalistic statements.
I will stop here for now and continue on tomorrow or
the next day. I hope this makes for some interesting
reading. Like I said at the beginning, I'm not sure
how accurate this is, but it sure is fun.
Later guys,
Diane and Bruce
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Hi Carolyn,
I will try very hard to find the information about the
"Viking" part of our heritage, I just hadn't had the
time to look. So, stay tuned for more info. I
promise I will try to get that info soon.
Bruce does remember going to school with Cliff. Man,
this is so cool, and 2 Melissa Camidges, wow. Who
knew!
Later,
Diane and Bruce
--- Cmcamidge(a)aol.com wrote:
> Hi Marcia,
> I think it's terrific and this list is going
> to be a wonderful
> meeting point/chatting place for all the CAMIDGEs!
> Once we get more CAMIDGES
> and CAMMIDGES, this list will really pick up! (And
> who knows - maybe there
> will be some CAMAGEs out there!) Computers and "the
> web" surely do make the
> world a SMALL place don't they! ;o)
> I am still waiting to see what the verdict
> is on the "Viking"
> ancestry - VBG!! ;o) I wish I knew where my
> "MOSES" ancestors came from!
> Wouldn't surprise me if they originated from England
> as well but will have to
> be patient until I find out! ;o) It's possible
> that my MOSES ancestors
> from a long, long time ago may have come from
> Germany - I know there are some
> MOSES lines that come from Germany but I haven't
> found any connections to
> them yet. Warmest regards to all of you ... and I
> promise I will STOP with
> the "tests." I finally figured out how to put
> "taglines" at the bottom of
> the mailing list messages! Hurray! .... Carolyn
> and Cliff
> ORIGINAL MESSAGE - dated 3/31/00 10:17:17 PM
> Eastern Standard Time,
> MDavidmc(a)aol.com writes:
>
> << Carolyn!!!
>
> I have discovered in my genealogical travels
> that all the Camidges trace
> back to Yorkshire. Isn't that neat??? We ARE all
> related!!!
>
> Marcia Camidge David
> >>
>
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Hey Marcia,
That is neat! TWO Melissa Camidges! WOW!
Have you told her about our CAMIDGE mailing list and invited her to join? I
guess when I did the "search" on CAMIDGEs, either I didn't see her address or
overlooked it! Anyway - tell her to please join our CAMIDGE mail list - the
more we have on the list, the more fun it is and when everyone gets started
posting to the list on a more regular basis sharing info - all of us CAMIDGEs
will learn more about our surname and our extended family! ;o)
By the way ... Cliff and I are going to be quiet for a few days -
starting tomorrow - unless Cliff decides to try his hand at typing. I am
usually his "secretary"/"typist" and I have something I have to take care of
and I will be back on the list very shortly. So unless he tries his hand at
typing, you won't hear from us for a few days.
In the meantime, I don't know how many of you are really "into" the
genealogy research - but I am listing a few websites on which you might find
some interesting CAMIDGE info - search these websites with the CAMIDGE name
and see what you come up with! Some of these sites I haven't visited lately,
so if you have any trouble with one of them, e-mail me and let me know. When
I get back online and read my mail, I will try to figure out why it didn't
work for you!
Also, If you find anything interesting, share with the list! Happy
hunting! ;o) .... Warmest regards....Carolyn and Cliff Camidge
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ORIGINAL MESSAGE - dated 4/1/00 9:13:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
MDavidmc(a)aol.com writes:
<< Hi Melissa!
I'd be happy to tell you her e-mail address!! It is
Missy10203(a)aol.com
She would be happy to hear from you!
Take care!!
Marcia Camidge David >>
Hi Melissa!
I'd be happy to tell you her e-mail address!! It is
Missy10203(a)aol.com
She would be happy to hear from you!
Take care!!
Marcia Camidge David
Hi Marcia,
Does Melissa have a e-mail address? My mom was like
oh no to Melissa Camidges in this world that is scary
haha. If she does that would be great. I would love
to talk to another one of my cousins.
Melissa Camidge
--- MDavidmc(a)aol.com wrote:
> Melissa!!!
>
>
> You have a cousin that is named Melissa Camidge.
> She is my niece and her
> dad is my brother Jim Camidge. She lives in
> Connecticut in the town I grew up
> in....Enfield.
>
> Marcia Camidge David
>
>
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